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Hello,

this one confuses me: I (still) try to achieve an astral projection since many years, the only thing I managed to experience though are lucid dreams.
(I believe that these are also genuine out-of-body-experiences, so I don't want to lessen their value by any means - I just also want to experience something more in the line of ,,floating out of the body" ^^)

So, after more than a dozen lucid dreams it suddenly stopped again, and since several months nothing more happens.

But: in my dreams I frequently talk about lucid dreams and astral projection with dream characters, why I want to achieve it and that it doesn't work yet.


Why don't I achieve (any more) lucid dreams and no AP at all, despite all the related work and meditation and stuff, but ,,talk" about it?
If I talk about it, my subconscious seems to understand very well what I want, yet it just let me ,,talk" about it in my dreams?

Any ideas?

I still don't get the Gateway-Tapes, how long you should listen to them and when to proceed to the next tape.

I own the whole series since 3 years now and listend countless times to them, especially the first wave and especially the last excercise (Focus 10).
Never I felt anything special, no floating, no change in my dreams at night, no sense of being ,,elsewhere".
I just hear the sound and am very relaxed, and after 30 minutes it's over and I stand up.

Should one listen to them during a WBTB, again and again?
(I listend to some binaural beats and guided meditations already with WBTBs, but this only created insomnia each time, so I gave up to do it)

Greetings,

I know that Phasing IS a form of meditation, so it's another point I want to ask about.

In one of Xanths blogs he wrote that the difference between phasing and a ,,classical" OBE would be the break (at Focus 12, real-time-zone, so to say) and the performance of an exit technique - while phasing would be the undisrupted continuation of the meditation until you reach Focus 21 and phase (automatically) into a higher dimension.

Therefore, if you mediate and get into some trance (and forget about your body etc.), then you should automatically reach Focus 21, sooner or later, right?
But this would mean that each proper meditation leads to an OBE. Which isn't the case, obviously.

So, my question is: in order to experience an OBE while meditating, how do you establish the intent?
Is it a firm intention at the beginning of the meditation, or do you ,,think" about that intention permanently, while noticing / visualizing / whatever tool you use?
Or is it the experience of that ,,void" (which I not did yet) that represents Focus 21 and you just know that you can start now with your OBE, if you wish?