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#1
This morning was maybe the closest I ever got to an OOBE. At least that's what I'd like to believe, but I cannot say for sure if I haven't just been dreaming.

I've felt vibrations often in the last 2 years but things always stopped there for me.
There were many different approaches that I tried at this stage - this time I tried imagining that I'd appear on the street in front of my house. And yes, it came as a surprise to me how much willpower it required from me to actually have any effect with this. Either way I felt pulled in that direction and for a moment was hovering through my room towards the window. I didn't feel any extremities, I was like a formless blob of gelatine being pulled through ... a world of gelatine. Kinda like being underwater and not being able to swim. I believe I 'saw' the outlines of my room, however very darkish and unclear and it was more of a feeling of -knowing- my surroundings rather than -seeing- in any literal way. I don't remember what happened afterwards.

The problems I'm having:

What was different this time however was that I barely was concious, while I usually was fully aware during the vibrations in the past. It is different than just remembering a dream you had when you wake up, yet the whole thing felt like a dreams environment. It happened quite often to me lately, that I actually 'wake' up while the vibrations are in progress. Could this be some sort of false awakening?

Secondly, I can't say that I was really myself in that moment and I know that sounds strange. I knew who I was and what I had wanted to do. I was more aware of myself than I am in my dreams, but it still was like only part of me was there and the other part of me was dormant. I wasn't there to the full extent as I am right now for example, while I'm writing this. I felt so detached from everything...

And on a side-note:
I tried asking for clarity multiple times to improve what I see and it didn't help at all. How exactly would I do that? Just say 'i would like clarity' to myself in my head, like when reading some text in a book?


Would love to hear your opinions.

And thanks for reading my probably hard to understand gibberish.

LazyPanda
#2
Hello,

I need a bit of help with the vibrations part.

I've been at that stage a lot of times now but they always fade away after some seconds. My body does not remain in sleep paralysis afterwards.
I'm saying 'remain' because I tried moving while they were happening and couldn't - yet after they've finished I usually can.

The first times I experienced it I tried techniques to 'leave' the body.
Nowadays I try to do nothing at all and let whatever is going to happen, happen by itself.
I know that's a bit of a turn, but I never quite understood what it is that I was supposed to be doing exactly, or what was supposed to happen next.

Doing nothing at all made sense to me, since I don't want to be doing anything remotely connected to my physical consciousness, potentially interrupting the whole process.
The only thing remaining is slight bit of surprise or irritation, when I've been lying half-asleep for minutes or hours and I can suddenly sense that they're about to happen. This is because my method of getting to the vibes is about stepping as little as possible over the line of being awake and falling asleep, meaning whenever I get the vibrations I typically feel like waking up a few seconds beforehand.
But it's still not as if I'm panicing or shocked or overly exicted or anything.

I'm wondering what it is that I might be doing wrong.

Any advice please?
#3
Ok, first a short backstory about me - I' ve been attempting oobes for maybe half a year now.
I got into the strange vibrational state a couple of times but nothing substantial really happened from there.
Apart from one occurance some months ago that was very similar to what I'm about to describe, I've had very little signs of progress at all.

So, I've been attempting an oobe this very evening. But since I couldn't relax properly I eventually just gave up.
Perhaps I should mention that my positioning seems to have a great impact on my progress, meaning that I usually sleep on my side, but start every oobe-attempt lying on my back.
When I eventually give up and just want to fall asleep, I end up turning over to the side. In this routine I think I experienced the vibrations the most often - basically when I was not expecting them anymore.
What was strange about this time was that I actually turned face down on the bed, a position I almost never sleep in.

And this was where I lost track of things, but I'll try to explain as good as I can.
The vibrations set in. I *suddenly* know that I have been just sleeping, because I realize that I'm in a face down position.
However... what I also suddenly remember are the last seconds before this very moment, in which I was in a different environment, which was rather unsettling - a nightmarish dream basically, where I ended up going to sleep in this very same face down position but under different circumstances.
So the vibrations are there as usual and since I'm having the feeling of just having woken up, I'm pretty confused and uncoordinated in how I try to proceed from there this time.
During these vibrations I'm having the feeling of being perfectly aware though, completely different to what I remember from this other, unsettling environment which I now am able to properly recognize as a dream. I don't let myself get distracted by this too much though and just let the vibration pass as usual.
Normally they would end soon, without having achieved anything. But this time, I felt some sort of shifting as well.

First, I attempted to move my other body, but only could come up with some weird sense of motion - as if I'm a blob of gelatin that's very slowly oozing out in a direction.
Next, since I wasn't sure yet if anything really just happened I attempted calling out my astral guide and reaching out my hand for someone to grab and properly help me out - although I felt no reaction.
Lastly, my vision started turning from pitch black to suddenly showing ... something, which I can't properly remember/describe anymore.
It felt as if I'm in some sort of void - some empty room, where all I saw was the color grey.
Dumbfounded, I didn't know what to do next and it didn't take long for me to feel the shifting back.
My vision started falling apart, sort of in tune with the vibrations that I think I experienced at this moment again (not too sure about this though).
At some point I only saw something strange like a wireframe of some environment (either the one from the nightmare before, or my real room - I cannot tell).
Seconds later I fully woke up.


What really irks me about all this, is that I know that I felt as aware as during my waking days in that very moment.
But I was almost like a different person, because I behaved a bit differently than I would expect myself to behave.
And after everything faded away again, I have trouble remembering so many details, that I know were perfectly vivid just a couple of seconds ago.


So what did just happen?
Did I have a dream in a dream? A false awakening of some sorts?
A failed lucid dream? But why did I wake up then, simply because I had no clue what to do?
Or an oobe? But then why am I suddenly having trouble remembering details?
What do I need to look out for, next time to understand what might be going on?

Sorry for the long text. I had to get it off my chest before I forget even more details.

I really need some ideas about what just happened to me, please.
#4
Hello everyone,

I'm new to these forums, although I have been very interested in OOBEs for a long time and read up into the matter occasionally in my life.

Lately I have started my own attempts at leaving my body. The furthest I have been getting to so far is the part where the vibrations set in.
I am still not 100% sure these were in fact the renowned vibrations I keep reading about but I lack a better explanation for it. All I can say is that after several hours of lying still in bed, some sort of electrical surge and loud ringing sound suddenly overcame me. At that time, I wasn't really sure how to proceed though - whether I was ready to try and leave my body - and if so, then how.

On my attempts over the last week I had trouble even getting to the vibrations mentioned earlier.
What I can do reliably is lying still in bed until my limbs get numb and occasionally some sort of gentle swoosh goes through my body - similar to a cold shiver running down your back or the sort of feeling you might have when your body parts aren't properly supplied with blood. These don't feel very special to me though - it's probably the least oddness you should expect when you didn't move a muscle for hours.

So now I'm looking for a bit of help from people who already have experience with the procedure of exiting their bodies and maybe can help me out of a couple of questions that I have.

1. The reason I'm sceptical about my progress is that I never experienced a sleep paralysis so far (not that I want to in particular). I'm not sure whether that was the case during my vibrations part, as that felt overwhelming/highly distracting at best but not exactly paralyzing. I did not try, but I'm pretty sure I could have forced a movement if I had wanted to. And I'm also sort of sure that it would have moved my physical body and not my astral one. At this point I also started receiving heavy breathing problems - but again, probably not because I felt paralyzed - but rather because I got so tense that I "forgot" to breathe and had to start doing it manually. I guess this was a mistake and I should have proceeded to ignore my breath even if I felt like I'm going to choke?

2. After roughly estimated 5-10 seconds the vibrations passed and I felt as I did before them. After a good amount of minutes these vibrations returned for a second time - although they felt slightly weaker and somewhat ... distorted. After some seconds they passed again, without anything changing. Does this mean I have 'failed' at the stage where I'm supposed to exit?

3. When I relax, the feeling of numbness in my legs and arms can get very vivid, but not so for my torso and head - perhaps due to the constant breathing? Is this normal? I'm not sure if there's something wrong with my relaxing procedure or if I'm just too impatient.

Hope you can overlook my bad english and thanks if you read through everything.
I would be so glad if someone can help me out with my questions.

Lazy Panda