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Simply enter your email and download it.
Just got the Ebook version of my favorite Book on AP. I have a hard copy too.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ky7vMFB4iAs

I must say I enjoyed the talk thoroughly. For the scientifically inclined, this is Gold.

Shinzen Young on Youtube
http://www.youtube.com/user/expandcontract

If you prefer pure, distilled and straight forward spiritual guide, he is the man. He describes everything in a simple rational way, without the bells and whistles or cultural baggage that sometimes comes along with eastern spiritual traditions.

All of his videos are highly recommended. Enjoy !

Nowadays I'm trying out the techniques of Nick - the saltcube guy, from his impressive videos that he recently posted on youtube. (You will find the links in my last thread.)

Night before, I decided to follow his technique. I got up early at 6-00, was up for exactly 45 min and went to bed again, relaxing myself thoroughly, even though I was already relaxed and started his rhythm napping timer mp3 with 2 min base in repeat mode. (Yes, in repeat mode).

To fall asleep fast, I did the sleep commands, which is ignoring the urge to move and keeping the eyes still. Within 30 sec I was in deep trance and the beeps that followed kept me on the edge.

First thing I remember is spontaneously floating up. As soon as I sensed that I tried to see and got down the bed. Couldn't see much, so tried asking for vision. I found myself in a room, which was not my room. I couldn't figure out where I was and ignored it thinking that may be these are dream elements. However, I was happy that I was ultra lucid. Anyway it all faded in few seconds.

Next beep pushed me out again, and this time I willed myself out of my house and flew over the greenery and found myself in a lovely garden with some beautiful but strange kind of vegetation. It too faded.

Next (or don't know which) beep and I was out again. This time, as I was detaching, I heard voices of people talking besides me. I found myself in the bed and saw three kids, dressed in white. They were talking in a foreign language. One girl who was elder to others, told me (in English) that I was doing opiums. I was fully conscious and was amazed, this was only the second time someone spoke to me in Astral. I replied (considering that she was only a child) - there are better things which can cause this (the obe).

I noticed that I was not speaking out loud, only mentally, and she could 'hear' it. She asked my name, and I told her my pen name and asked hers. She replied - 'Uranda'. I had never heard this name before and I was wondering and repeated her name - Uranda ? She said 'yuke', I again looked at her, when she said - "Its 'yes' in Russian". Then I asked the names of other kids, they replied, but I missed them.

I was starting to fade, only thing I noticed while I was coming back, was that they were holding my arms firmly, as if they wanted me to stay. When I was back I got up and out of the bed, only to see that I was still out, it was a false awakening. Tried once more to come back, failed again.

Finally had to break the SP by breathing very very deeply (as he says in the video), so much so that I made loud noises. When I was finally awake, I rushed to my PC and searched for "Uranda" and found that its a real name ! However, could not find the meaning of 'yuke'.........

Will keep you posted.

Nick from saltcube.com has recently released some very informative videos on his methods for quickly achieving OBEs and LDs. Please take a look, they are worth it.

http://www.youtube.com/user/LucidDreamTricks

You can discuss them here on his forum:

http://www.saltcube.com/out-of-body/chat-forum/viewTopic.jsp?t=55537

Good Luck to all

If you are not already aware, Robert Bruce has posted seven videos on the topic of Astral projection basics on his blog.

http://blog.astraldynamics.com/

These are a must watch, especially for beginners.

Quoted from ,
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/health/7621608.stm
today .....

Doctors at 25 UK and US hospitals will study 1,500 survivors to see if people with no heartbeat or brain activity can have "out of body" experiences.

Good reading ....

http://montalk.net/notes/astral-physics

Can the etheric and astral planes can be understood from the viewpoint of physics? What is the mathematical relationship between these and the physical realm? To take a shot at these questions, we must examine what physics says of the physical and see if that can be mathematically extended to produce predictions matching anecdotal observations of the etheric and astral.

Found this gem :
http://www.oldandsold.com/articles26/yogi-10.shtml

Currently reading it. I recommend it (all articles listed on the right are cool)

Date : 1/5/08 Early morning

Intensionally trying to hover around the sleep/awake line. I fell asleep with an intension of not going too deep in sleep.
While in sleep, thought of checking time on my cellphone. Stretched my hand but experienced a "rip", which means I moved my astral hand, and as soon as I came to know, I got up out of the body.

It was murky and confusing, could not focus on anything, so decided to go out, but then changed my mind and decided instead to go back into body (which is rare ).
Got back with a very clear crisp memory of the experience.

Most of the people here perhaps know the importance of self control, especially in relation to AP. When you can easily lose control of your emotions during an AP, it ends very soon, within a second usually, or turns into a dream or pure nonsense. To take full advantage of an AP and to make it last longer, emotions need to be tamed. It is a very difficult task and the fact that emotions are amplified many times during an AP makes this task very difficult.
The only way is through practice and discipline, not only during AP but also in normal waking hours. I must say that the benefits of a mind that's in your full control are enormous. The stability of your AP is only a tiny side effect of it.

In my view, self control is not a total annihilation of emotions (as seen in Mr Spock in Star Trek), rather it is an ability to raise your consciousness above the natural day-to-day mental states and see clearly the play of emotions and feelings in your mind, delay them, kill them or call them at your command. It is an ability to become a master of your own self and get rid of instinctive, impulsive and hard wired pre-programmed behavior.
I've been practicing self control and the results are satisfactory so far, though I'm not a master by any measures. Anger, hatred, greed, lust, sorrow etc don't affect me so much as they used to. Similarly, I'm not overdriven by joy, excitement, self-pride, success, curiosity etc. I practice the methods of -

-meditation,
-clearing the mind many times a day
-silence
-removing the negative stuff that surrounds me, like newpapers, TV, violent and vulgar movies, games
-avoiding negative, irritating or immature people (including children and relatives)
-reminding to myself whenever I'm about to enter a weak moment and about to surrender to emotions
-playing the "observer"
-keeping a count of impulses
-re-programming
-forgiving and forgetting
-delaying the emotions (most effective method)
-studying the psychology of emotions and their evolutionary origins
-studying the effects and purposes of emotions
-voluntarily calling an emotion and experimenting on it

Well there are so many ways. If anybody wants me to explain any of the above in detail, please ask.

It changes you totally, so be warned. You may or may not like it. Common people around you will not like it. Do it only if you are sure of it. But there is nothing to worry, because giving up these practices brings you back to "normal" life very soon. It causes a lot of unusual side-effects and weired situations. I'm listing some of them from my experience -

-It is easy initially, but more you control yourself, harder it becomes, until you cross some threshold, where is seems easy again
-Emotions will fight back, and will attack you with double strength (especially true for impulses, OCD or dieting etc)
-As soon as you realize how deep in dirt you are, you may break down. But it is a temporary phase.
-People may start disliking you, as you don't "play" with them. Loved one's may feel that they are losing you.
-These people will make your life even more difficult. All delicate equations are breaking.
-Nature seems to be testing you, mostly against you. This is actually helpful.
-Emotions may try to kill you.... (just kidding  )
-As the wiring of emotions starts breaking in your brain, it may induce strange reactions, e.g you may feel like laughing when you are actually sad or you may become angry instead of becoming ashamed of something.
-Periods of mental peace and calm and control are followed by intense violence of emotions. So repressing them totally or fully is not recommended. It must be slow and gradual.
-Your dreams vomit a lot of emotions.
-Better control brings "blank emotions" or "blank impulses". These are moments where you should be feeling an emotion and your body and mind are getting prepared for the action but nothing happens.
-Emotions may appear physically (sickness etc)
-When emotions are not entertained in consciousness, they take a back seat. They play out unconsciously without your knowing. These will be felt as "burns" at different places in your skin. The burns are just like the jealously burns, if you know what I mean. I get them mostly on my forearms or chest and I hate them (or do I really do )
-Your mind has turned to a plain grey from a full specturm of vivid colors. This is so much like depression and feels exactly so.
-Emotions are the forces that pull you into action. When these are subdued, you don't do much. You become lazy. But mostly you give up doing unnecessary things. It has advantages.
-There are many more strange things that may happen.

But slowly the good effects outweigh the unwanted ones. Hopefully they will be gone for me. If anyone here is more experienced in these matter please enlighten me. Thanks. 

These are a must and excellent read for anyone interested in spirit phenomena/spiritism.
Written by a well known scientist, Allan Kardec, the founder of the science and philosophy of Spiritism. (The study of spirits and afterlife, not to be confused with spiritualism).

I often see posts mentioning that scientists don't take these things seriously and never try to study this field as a proper science. So here is some food for thought for them and for skeptics too, who disapprove the phenomena as crazy BS made up by new-agish nuts.
Easy to read, no mystical hoch-poch here.

The Spirits' Book -
http://www.allankardec.com/Allan_Kardec/Le_livre_des_esprits/lesp_us.pdf

The Medium's Book -
http://www.geae.inf.br/en/books/codification/mb.pdf

There is a online course for AP of 9 weeks duration, if anyone is interested.
And it is free.
http://www.gnosticweb.com/index.php?PageID=157

The amazing Russian X-Ray Girl has proved it again.

http://en.rian.ru/society/20050419/39705477.html

Last evening I had a dual obe. Felt kinda sleep deprived, so went to sleep 19-00 hrs as soon as I got the opportunity for it. Now it happens that when I want to sleep badly, I become ultra sensitive to sounds and even a pin drop feels like a huge distraction. So I put on my mouldable ear-plugs.

It must have been only 2-3 min, and I was already deep, and thanks to the earplugs, all the internal sounds were loud and crisp. I heard the usual 'bang' twice [those who know it will understand], it sounded like a metal sheet tearing apart...   .

Well that was too loud a separation to manage, so I got back with a jerk, full awake. Then again drifted off to sleep. Somehow after some time, I was semiconscious and I felt myself loose in my body. I got hold of my state and started rocking slowly, and increased the amplitude, as it gained momentum like a swing and quickly was out.

I felt the bed and the chair as I moved away from my bed. I gained some visuals when I neared window. It was night with all my neighboring buildings lit up with lights. So far so good, but as soon as I was out of the window I started floating like a feather, or felt so. The environment changed to something else. It quickly faded to some dream about me trying to go some place.

The second obe came without any attempt. Just rolled out from the other side of the bed (just for a change ), when I found myself loose again. This one also became a boring dream. I woke up and had my dinner and went to bed again. The dreams that followed were crisp and kinda 'novel' compared to the usual subconscious vomit.

What I have seen is that whenever I try to cross something , like a window or a door..... I enter a dreamscape. Where I lose control. Is there anyway to keep the consistency and still move far away from the body?

But next time I'm going to stay in my room and just see what happens.

Even if you exclude the made up fake communications, the amount of useful knowledge that any spirit has ever communicated is almost nil.
I can expect that the info coming from so called 'lower beings' and ordinary spirits would be useless or nothing new, but even the so called 'higher beings' just go round and round in circles with meaningless gibberish.
So far I never came across any kind of 'intelligent communication'. So I may be wrong here. By such communication I mean any information which helped in some kind of achievements or reveling any truths.
Moreover they never try to disclose the mechanisms by which they communicate and sound very vague when asked.

The whole situation puts spirit communications in the category of pseudosciences such as astrology, where there is a lot of heat but no light.

I can only guess the reasons for it -
1. Its all fake, no one can communicate with spirits really.
2. Spirits don't want to interfere with normal workings of the world, so don't pass any higher knowledge down.
3. They want us to learn in a hard way, using our own intelligence.
4. They do say things in thought forms which are useful, but our physically rooted minds distort it and filter it out during communications.
5. They think that we have enough knowledge about the physical and non-physical to carry on, and there is no need to over burden us with things which we wont use and understand anyway.
6. They are only as intelligent as we are, so don't posses any more knowledge then we do.
7. They are not interested in physical at all.
8. They have got rid of all things related to physical and cant seem to relate to them anymore. So our questions about physics are Chinese to them.
9. They are afraid that we would misuse the knowledge.
10. They prefer to communicate useful things via dreams, inspirations, insights, gut feelings, intuitions and such.
11. They are already in full communication with our 'higher selves', so there is no need to repeat the things here on earth.

And I can think of more....but that's all for now.
I'd like to have your opinions on the matter.

I have recently increased my obe attempts and after a long gap I managed one conscious obe today morning.
I went to bed around 0800 (yes!, no schedules here;)), and stacked up two pillows so that I stay in a 'non-sleep' mode. Very soon I reached the sleep border and was drifting in and out, often reminding myself for obe.
Not trying any techniques I kept myself on the border, deeply relaxed. After some half an hour or so, I drifted to sleep but got up because of the constant reminders, and decided not to try anymore... 'obe abort'. So, turned on side and tried to sleep.

The white noises started waxing and waning in my ears. It sounds just like when you move a whip in air very fast. Soon I found myself relaxing deeper and the noises became louder like an untuned FM radio station at high volume. I just kept passive watch and after a while the noise ascended higher and I smoothly lost all body sensations and it felt as if I was floating just above the bed. No vision, full consciousness.

I turned carefully to the side and out of the bed still floating. Now as I tried to see, something must have gone wrong because things became very blurry and dark, anyhow I remembered to do an experiment to type something on the PC but it was off (which I generally keep on always, but this time it was off in real too). So instead I found the fan switch and tried to turn it on. It seemed that I succeeded as I saw the fan turning, happy and reminding myself to check it after the return, I decided to go out.

As I neared window things went very bright but still hazy, but something went wrong again. The window was nothing like my real window, still I jumped off expecting to fly, but I stayed in air. So, I forced myself to fly, it worked, although I couldn't see anything, and I was almost laughing with joy. This went against me and I found myself laughing in bed, with tingles all over the body.

In few seconds I moved my toe and opened my eyes, and the first thing I saw - the fan was off, it never moved.

Hi
Sounds too far fetched, but is there any possibility of contacting non-physical beings via Internet?
The media though which they(spirits etc) can contact include -
1. Human mediums.
2. Simple objects (pendulum/boards/sticks, but a form of channeling)
3. Radio waves
4. Telephone
5. TV
6. Computer

Very impressive list indeed. (for examples of these communications please visit http://www.worlditc.com )
So did they got their hands on a www or smtp/pop server yet?
I heard a few stories about people getting anomalous mails. But I get 20 such mails daily and they go staright to the junk-mail folder without my knowing
Are there any serious examples of a contact through Internet? Thanks

Its been more than 4 years now. Still I'm puzzled.
A brief history:
Chance: At first when it started, I barely noticed it. Most often knocked it off as a matter of chance. And forgot.
Curious: The frequency of its occurrence grew beyond a statistical chance, and I was curious, still never took it seriously.
Amazed: It was amazing as I somehow knew the time subconsciously only, never intensionally looked at my watch when this happened. Started noting its peculiarities.
Worried: It didn't go away, once I was worried...I'm going insane, perhaps some weird sort of OCD gripped me. I made all clocks/watches of my house randomly faster or slower by a few minutes. (I still keep my PC clock 1 hr+some random mins faster). It seemed to vanish.
Irritated: No, it came back fast. I thought of a presence which reminds me somehow (scary when you are alone in night...). Tried to get rid of it, couldn't ask for help, as I thought they would laugh at me. Irritation followed.
Discovery: By chance(?), I found a similar experience posted by someone on Usenet. Much relief and amazement. Later found 1000's of accounts....that shared same story. No scientific cause found, mostly new-age-ish BS.
Connection: But I found a connection (roughly suggested by the BS ), it started almost at the same time I started learning about spiritual things.

The puzzle is getting deeper and darker, on some days it happens almost every hour !!.... No exaggerations here....

Can anyone throw some light here? Why XX:11 or XX:12 ....?Thanks

(I did read about it on the net, about which I'll post later)

Is it possible for a spirit to affect physical matter?
Like moving something/producing heat/sound/light/affecting EM fields. Or may be microscopic changes in matter/material properties.
What are the ways in which they do so?

This question is related to this thread on creating an astral interface here -
http://www.astralpulse.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=17445

Also, can a physical being/event affect something in astral? Like when I switch on a light bulb, does it produce any effect at all in astral?

So many questions.... yes, but I need some ideas

Hi,
This is my first post here How are you all...

The reason for posting is that nowadays I'm onto something, and you must have guessed it from the topic.....that I'm trying to create an Astral Interface.

Most of you are aware of many methods to communicate with entities in 'other worlds', like pendulums/human mediums/EVP and the most direct one - i.e. OBE. Now we all know from our first hand experiences and experts accounts that all these methods are very unreliable, erratic and accessible to a few fortunate ones.

My wish is to create a device which will be very reliable, accurate and will not need years of practice to operate. It will be a kind of material-astral communication device - an interface between material and astral world.

I don't mean to do this overnight, by just some magic, but by using a scientific method. And I don't want to do it secretly, and want help of anyone who is interested in this matter. At most I'd fail but there is no harm in trying sincerely once. Is there?

Btw I'm an Electronics and Telecom engineer with additional knowledge of computers and programming languages. I'd devote my free time and resources to construct such a device, and I'd like anyone, who's interested, to join hands.

Now why use artificial means to access the mysterious, when you have a mental ability to do so? Perhaps we'll know something important which will accelerate personal growth of a not so gifted person. If we attempt the communication using various methods, perhaps we can succeed in some of them. Just like we are doing in
the fields of AI and ALife. If we shoot many arrows from many directions, perhaps we will be able to hit the target sooner. The target is only one - gaining more and more knowledge of the 'other worlds'.

Now the plan -
Find out something physical which can be affected in some manner by both physical and astral beings, it will be a transducer. (for example - a microphone is a transducer which translates sound into electrical signals)

Then arrange a setup like this -

Physical Information <--> Encoding/Decoding <--> Transducer <--> Encoding/Decoding <--> Astral Information

Physical info can be written or spoken words. Astral info can be something which astral beings can very easily percieve. We need a transducer which at least has two distinct states both in astral and physical, for a start. So we can use binary encoding. But more complex transducers with multiple states can also work.

The setup actually depends on the kind of transducer. The part on the right of transducer must be created by astral engineers or a physical engineer who can astral travel. So we need collaboration between physical and astral engineers here. My guess is that they are better equipped than us, and wont find any difficulty doing it.

Who will tell them to do this? Perhaps one of our gifted members. He will find out interested entities on the other side and seek their help. Once a prototype is assembled, which can be a dot-dash telegraphy kind of system, we can proceed to more complex systems.

Some day I hope to create a device which will relay visuals from the astral to the physical - an astral TV may be

I'll post the design document soon, and more detail plan in next reply, as this one is getting long. Meanwhile all ideas, bright and dull, are most welcome.