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Just a quick question on how to phase, I've heard a lot of it but i don't know how to do it.

Could somebody please tell me how to phase?

Targett

[suffering]

OK guys I just want to create this topic to get an idea of what you all define as suffering.

Can you all write in this post exactly what your idea of suffering is.

Ta

Hey guys I'm starting to develop a real problem with my obe practice. Id greatly appreciate any advice anyone has.

Everytime I practice the rope exit technique it does something to me which stops me from sleeping well for days after wards. Every time I'm on the verge of sleep, i get this jolt through my body which makes me jump and completely wakes me up. This happens many times throughout the night and is starting to become a real problem.

last weekend I was practicing the technique for about 20 mins and that night it happened about 15 times and I couldn't get to sleep until 3.30 in the morning (i went to bed at 9pm). It happened again every night of the week gradually getting weaker towards the end of the week.

Then yesterday I decided to practice it again and last night, again, it was very strong and i didn't get to sleep until 3am again.

The best way i can describe it is when i practice the technique i can feel it exerting some kind pressure onto my body, and after doing it for a while it feels like it charges me up like some kind of electric device, and when i get the jolting, its slowly releasing all this energy.

Its really bad for me to be tired when i work because I'm driving all day long and if i fall asleep i could get killed or seriously injured.

Ive tryd lying in every position i can think of but that doesn't help.

Can anyone plz give me some advice on whats going on?

Hey guys

Just sharing an interesting RTZ experience i had this morning.

While i was out of my body i went into the hallway closest to the main air conditioning, its a noisy unit and i could hear the humming clearly. My physical body was in a sensory deprivation booth so there was no way i was hearing it with my physical ears.

I decided to jump up and got into the Attic where all the air conditioning pipes are and i could hear all the noises as theyd sound from up in the Attic.

Then after that i went up again and i was on top of the house and i could hear the aircond humming sounds as theyd sound from outside (the actual unit is outside so thats where its the most noisy).

Thats gotta be one of the few interesting experiences Ive had so far while in RTZ

Take care

Hey guys

Is it possible to leave your body when you know you are seconds away from a very horrible death?

I had an interesting experience last night.

I was having a very vivid nightmare that i was in a plane that was crashing. I could see the ground getting closer very fast and because i was in a dream and my mind was dull, i really believed that i was about to die for real.
Then just before the plane hit the ground i got a strong sucking pressure over my whole body then about a second later i awoke completely paralysed like i get just before a projection.

I know it was during a dream and my physical body was relaxed enough for a projection, but i wonder if its possible to be scared out of your body in real life?

My dad thinks my stepmum is a psychic vampire and is draining hes energy levels.

Any advice on how to overcome this problem when your partner is a psychic vampire?

Greetings all

I'm very new to energy raising, but very interested in starting some long term dedication to it.

Ive been reading about the New Energy Ways from Robert Bruce's Astral Dynamics book. I haven't got as far in my exercises as raising energy into the sub naval storage center yet or stimulating chakras. I'm still working on using tactile imaging to stimulate the energy body and clear blockages.

I have been using Roberts stirring, brushing, and sponging techniques on my feet-legs, hands-arms for the past 9 days. The only energy sensations i have felt so far are very very mild in my thumbs and pointing fingers and a couple of times my left foot twitched. In the areas that it is working I'm not sure if it is really working or if I'm just imagining it.

Id greatly appreciate it if some experienced people can tell me about they're own sensations when they first started, like how strong they were, how long did it take for the sensations to happen, if they had any difficulties that they worked through, and maybe give me some guidance or tips.

Are my energy pathways blocked and i should i be patient and keep trying?

How long do you do energy exercises for a day?

I don't want to move onto further energy raising exercises until all my blockages are cleared and healthy.

Id greatly appreciate help from anyone that can help me.

Thanks

Malcolm

Is it possible to project into the future while APing?

Earlier i had a obe and i saw my dad sitting in the chair. I tried to get hes attention by swinging my arms in his face but was unsuccessful, then the momentum of my movements kept on going and i went through the wall behind him, next second the projection fizzled out and i was paralyzed in my body.

I tried to break it and get out as fast as i could to go and see if my dad was actually sitting in his chair and confirm my experience was real. I got out after about 60 seconds of struggling and went out to the living room but my dad was outside working on the car

About 1 hour later i was reading some articles on the Internet and i looked at my dad and realized he was sitting in the exact same position as he was in my obe

I wonder if i projected about 1 hour into the future??

Is it possible??

Thx

[my sight tends to fade alot]

Ive had 2 out of body experiences this last week and both of them seem to be very faint and frustrating,

I was just on the holosync and when it finished i dozed off to sleep and got into the sleeping paralysis state. I relaxed even more and the next thing i knew i was floating off to the left and i was in some room that seemed a bit like the room i was in but it was a bit different, i could have been in someone elses house i dunno.

I remember i couldnt move forward, I seen my door and was trying to calmly walk towards it (because when ever i move too fast in my obes my sight seems to fade) but it was like i was trying to walk in space, my feet would move but i would just be floating in the same place. I tryed to turn my head to look at the window but then my sight faded again, then i turned to look back at the door and my sight came back again just as it was before

I keep shooting off into the air in almost every obe ive had, (well im not sure if i really am but sure it feels like i do), and i get this humming sucking sound when i do move fast. It feels like i shoot off at bullet speed right into the air but when i try to look down my sight fades. In that obe i just had i could only move very fast, but not slowly

Ive find most of my obes very confusing and frustrating because they are very weak and faint and my sight tends to fade alot and i have alot of trouble controling myself in them. And when i get out of them the memory just fades within seconds. At the time i know im experiencing it  but the memory just fades soo fast its anoying.

I wonder if all my obes are really weak and faint because i always get them from the sleeping paralysis state. Im always asleep when they happen and the dreaming mind is still rolling. Maybe the random dreaming mind is over powering my mind in my astral body.

Ive had about 8-10 obes all together and the best one i had was the second, that was very clear and i had control of myself.

Im really trying my hardest to explain whats its like here but its just sooo hard to explain what these things are like.

Id really really appreciate it if anyone could reply or comment on some of these experiences and help me out. Does anyone else have any troubles like this?? why does my sight keep fading? how do you gain control of yourself? is there a way to empower them so theyre not soo faint and hard to remember??

Yesterday mornig i managed to get through the paralysis state and i could feel my leags slowly floating up but the rest of my body was numb, then i managed to leave my body and it was hideously out of control. I went flying through the room, through the garage, up through the roof about 40 meters in the air, and started spinning around forward really fast. Then before i knew it i was back in my body again.
Then this morning the same thing happened again. I got out went out of my room window and then all i remember is just compltely losing control and my sight going wild and spinning all over the place at 100000 kmph.

Its a bit like ice skating with ultra long momentum when i try and move, you try and stop yourself and its impossible because i just keep on moving, then it just gets messy. Could it be because the other night i didnt get any sleep? ever since then my obes have been messy

And another thing i wanna ask is does anyone ever see little lights? On my second projection last wednesday i seen a whilte light glowing out of my wristwatch and another one coming from the door of my booth, and this morning i remember seeing a glowing red light, cant say where it was coming from because this morning was just a mess and i wouldnt have even called this morning a projection.

id appreciate any advice

thx

[fear]

Ok ive been into astral projection for about 1 year now. And with using a sensory deprivation booth and help with holosync i can get myself into a  state where i am paralysed almost every time i try now. The only problem is i can never seem to take it any further because of fear i guess. I want to get as much info and guidence from experienced projectors as i can because i feel i am sooo close now but i need the encouragement to go further.

Here are some of the symptoms of the paralysis state:
* everytime i get into it theres always a poping feeling in my ears as soon as it kicks in, feels like when u yawn and u cant hear for a second.
*i always hear some strange noises when im in the paralysis state, noises are always different each time. Examples of these noises are sounds of birds flapping theyre wings fast, footsteps, shuffling sounds, electrical sounds etc.
*sometimes in the state i can actually feel myself moving into a different position, but when it finishes il be in the same position as when i started. The best case of this was a couple of weeks ago i started off lieing on my back, got up and ended up lieing on my stomach, i could actually feel my elbows pushing into the bed, but when i came out of the paralysis i was still on my back, did i imagine this?
* very tiny spots of light in my eye sight and sometimes what look like coloured lightning bolts going across my eyesight, a bit like when u rub your eyes hard and u see fuzzy colours.
*very hard to move during the episode, takes extreme will to be able to move a toe or fingers.
* Throughout the whole epsiode i find myself in a strong resistance to a very intense and disturbing sucking feeling (this is where i want people to pay most attention because this is what always stops me from going further). When ever i try to relax the feeling gets more intense and scary. It feels like a sucking pressure throughout my whole body. A good way to describe this is like im in some stream and the current is pulling on me hard, i feel like if i relax the current will take me away and kill me, so throughout the whole episode i am in a strong state of resisting this disturbing sucking feeling on my whole body, trying to fight it because of fear of it getting worse and the fear of losing control and dieing. When it does get worse the shuffling sounds i hear get faster and faster, it feels like my heart beat gets faster and faster, today it felt like my heart was being ripped out of my chest,  the feeling gets worse and everything intensifies the more i stop resisting, which scares the hell out of me, so im like *resist resist resist*

Its a bit like someone whos scared of heights or something, when ever im out of the state im like "OK THATS IT!! NEXT TIME I GET IT IM GOING TO DO IT!!!* but when ever im in the state im like *resist resist resist get it away!!!*


When i first ever got this sleeping paralysis about 2 years ago i got some vibrations in my head and falling feeling, that was the best one i ever had, when i first started to get them id only get them like once a month, but now i can get them at will, like 4-5 times a week with the help of holosync soundtrack.

I would greatly greatly appreciate any advice and information from other experienced people about where i am and how i get further. Is it possible to leave your body from this state? what are some good techniques which are good at point of experience??

I would just like to add that ive been using holosync for about a year now and i highly reccomend other people look into it, it is fantastic for putting you into a trance and relaxing your body, i can easily get into the paralysis state after doing a 1 hour session on the holosync.

thank you

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