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I'm posting this here for any interested Astral Pulse members.  I have a barely used 2-cassette tape Astral Projection Program by willy Sutphen, which is in excellent shape.  I haven't used it much, as I have been focusing on other things and want to pass this along to someone that can utilize it.  If you're interested, please email me at <amcturbo@yahoo.com> , thanks!

PROGRAM DETAILS:
2 Cassettes
1) Side A - Astral Projection: Introduction & Preparation
2) Side B - Astral Projection: Standard Lift-out Hypnosis
3) Side C - Astral Projection: Sound-accompanied Lift-out Hypnosis
4) Side D - Astral Projection: Vibrational Lift-out Hypnosis

A 96-page manual (about willy's products and how-to use them guide).

Original Box for all the above.

Cost: $15 plus shipping costs (insurance optional) to where ever you are.  I ship via US MAIL 1st Class or Priority Mail.  I'll ship internationally and I accept Paypal.

If you're interested, please email me at <amcturbo@yahoo.com> , thanks!

This other post of mine should be of interest, as the method I used to achieve a WILD is described.  Enjoy!

http://www.astralpulse.com/forums/topic.asp?ARCHIVE=&TOPIC_ID=2843

Cheers!
Greg Taylor

"Whatever consciousness may be, it's not a small thing" - Ingo Swann
"Oh, I... ain't got no ... body" - David Lee Roth (Van Halen)

Good afternoon all,
Recently, I've had two OBE's that have perplexed me ... perhaps some of you veteran OBE'ers can shed some light on them.

In both OBE's I've projected out into my old bedroom at my parents' house, while my body was physically in Aruba for the 1st OBE and at my house for the 2nd OBE.

Throughout both OBE's, I continually was in the vibration stage, which for me, is a combination of loud buzzing vibrations originating from the point where the base of my skull and back of neck meet (medulla oblongata area) just outside of my body.  In each instance, when I snapped back into my body, the vibes would subside.

Also, in both OBE's my old bed appeared as if being slept in.  Each time, I looked to the bed for my body ... and it wasn't there.

I am wondering is if I was partially in an OBE and partially Lucid Dreaming, especially since the vibrations didn't decrease after 'leaving' my body.  Does anyone have any ideas/thoughts on this?  Thank you!


Greg Taylor

This is one of the most frightening things i have read lately! Whitley is usually makes intellegent judgements and statements, however going to war just to control oil is idiotic, that is one of the prime reasons the terrorist want to kill us so bad. Is he making this statement because the powers that be are too balless to mention it? Is this really why the American people are supporting the president and war? To spend billions to kill people that don't deserve to die so that multinational corporations can sell us that oil? There are probably a few judgements that are questionable, the one that jumps out is comparing Sadam to hitler, hitler was given a few countries in Europe before the west stepped in, Sadam does not really have control of his own country and has  no way to overtake his neighbors-remember quwait?
Interestinly enough this fits in with the thoughts I had while driving around today- we have just become a monster ready to overrun whatever gets in the way of having our material goods!

Greetings amcturbo!

Apologies for the problems you are experiencing.

I am not sure what is happening regarding your reply to post situation. As you can see, everyone else is replying to messages OK, and of course I have replied to this one []

It might be worth flushing your browser cache in case anything there is causing the problem, and if you have access to another PC try that also to see whether it is your PC or your account.

Please let me know how it goes.

With best regards,

Adrian.

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Cheers!
Greg Taylor

"Whatever consciousness may be, it's not a small thing" - Ingo Swann
"Oh, I... ain't got no ... body" - David Lee Roth (Van Halen)

Are there any benefits of phasing into the Astral compared to a RTZ projection exit then into the astral from the RTZ?

How about instead of banishing every mildly unpleasent thing you enounter,  you try asking it why it's there, and what it wants, and if it has anything to tell you.
I feel strongly as if you washed a valuable learning experience down the bathroom drain.

Congratulations on the new addition to your family!  I'll be proposing (gulp) to my long time girlfriend next week, and hopefully I'll be joining the ranks of fatherhood within a couple of years.


Keep smiling,

Jeff Mash
MyJokeMail.com - Jokes and Humor
http://myjokemail.com

quote:Do you think my wife is REALLY THERE in my experience, or am I projecting her from myself (like dream people)?

This happens to me a lot with family members, where I see them and interact with them, even though I know that they're not physically there at the time of my OBE.  I just addressed this issue yesterday in the following thread, in case you would like to read my thoughts on why this happens:

http://www.astralpulse.com/forums/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=2629

quote:
Could I be interacting with her Astral Self or Dreaming body?

Yes to both.  As I explained in the previous thread, I believe that we're all multidimensional beings.  There are many aspects and facets to each of us.  There is a high probability that you were interacting with your wife, just on a different level which won't make sense to your logical thinking mind.

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What are you thoughts about the various recurring theme(s)?

My thoughts are numerous on this topic.  One of my recurring themes is that I find myself in my childhood home.  I think this (and other recurring themes) are due to a lack of INTENT when we project.

For example, many of my projections occur spontaneously, after I have been asleep for awhile.  Usually at this point, you don't expect to astral project, but you find yourself doing it, as if you were on autopilot.  Usually, when that happens, you haven't had sufficient time to instill a proper intent to go somewhere, so you just naturally gravitate to what is meaningful to you.  In my case, I always seem to retreat back to my childhood home, since that's where all my fond & innocent memories were from being a kid and playing with all my toys.

So you see, without a strong intent, your astral body will naturally gravitate towards environments and situations that it's more interested in.

Another thing to consider....sometimes we are faced with recurring events as TESTS.  For example, you may have a recurring them of always interacting with a stranger in a park who seems lost.  After a while, you may realize that your goal is not to show off to him about how you can jump higher than a tree, but instead, you might be there to help him find his way.  After you complete that task, you may find that this recurring theme is no longer an issue!

For the longest time, one of my recurring themes was to project, find my mom in the house, and then interact with her to see if she could tell that I was projecting or not.  You see, my mom is a very strict born again Christian, and she thinks these are of the devil.  So subconsciously, my intent was preprogrammed to find her and interact in case I didn't give myself another INTENT to go on.  

Think of it like a pilot.  When he is in control, he can choose to fly to Mexico, Spain, or France.  But when he releases control, the plane goes on autopilot and flies where it was preprogrammed to go.  One of your preprograms is to talk to your wife and get her to talk to you about your projection.  If you take control and give yourself another INTENT, then you'll find yourself doing something different.


Keep smiling,

Jeff Mash
MyJokeMail.com - Jokes and Humor
http://myjokemail.com

Stepping on very thing and extremely rusty ice but...

TAN = single (Essential Kanji 1st paper back, 8th printing  the glyph is 390)
TAO = way, path (Ibid. the glyph is 141)

In the case of TAN the translitteration of the reading presented in the source is same in both Jap and Chi.
For TAO the reading is DOh, TOh, michi for JAp and TAO for Chi.

So I'd bet the guy was Chinese and the greeting should read "One Way"

I now yield to someone who actually know either language in any detail.....

2cents & L&L

jouni

Hey, thats a nice idea. Start by going OOB about 3 minutes before your favorite TV show and entering your T.V. and becoming a part of it! I know im in deep $#@% for suggesting this, but you know, you can always go OOB about 3 minutes before Baywatch...

hehe

Hope you had fun

"View people like a shattered mirrior. The peices show the distorted personality. View the peices as a whole and you will see their true reflection."-Poem by Me

Howdy,
Although I have not seen my silver cord yet.I think this experience I had not too long ago.May have had  something to do with it.

What happened was I could not move any further,about 15 feet from my body.I tried every which way,till I was spinning in a circle uncontrollably around my bedroom.

Have you ever seen those toy planes that are attached to a cord and fly around the person.That is what I felt like.http://www.astralpulse.com/forums/images/icon_Smile.gif" border=0>


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"your divine awareness awakens all the love in your being.Hating and  fearing forsaken,gone are the guilt and the blame.Your soul forgives,your divinity lives"
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Greetings Greg!

I am sorry to hear of your difficulties. Ideally marriages should be give and take, and accept and respect of each others views and beliefs.

Strongly religious people often have problems accepting truths that does not fit in with their beliefs for many reasons, and we have to respect that.

Every person in the world, in this incarnation or a subsequent one will have to find the true path sooner or later.

I would suggest that you might like to consider buying a White Eagle book or two. White Eagle is an very highly evolved Spirit messenger of Spiritual realities. White Eagle very wisely recognises that it is just not realistic to ask people to discard their religion, and embrace spiritual realities instead, and so he teaches Spiritual matters in the context of christianity to the extent possible, so that people can integrate Spiritual realities into their existing belief system to start with. White Eagle books are very inexpensive and available online.

http://www.whiteaglelodge.org/books/index.html

I truly hope that you can reconcile this with your wife to your mutual satisfactions.

With kind regards,

Adrian.

I truly hope the best for your family.

Might I suggest that you two go to an non-partial party for counseling. I can understand her beliefs, been there done that. I think we both know that discussing this with the pastor is pretty much just him and your wife ganging up on you about your new beliefs. I doubt that he will be open to your ideas, though I do not know him so maybe we are both wrong. Going to the pastor might actually be rather harmful, depending on if your ideas get out to your church members and how they view such things. You might find yourself excommunicated from them. Thought lets hope not!

Thinking about it I would strongly suggest going to a non-religiously affiliated marriage counselor. They would probably be best suited to handle such a situation. Good Luck, God Bless!

hi there, have a look at www.danheller.com
...there are plenty of big ben photos that might jog your memory.

There aren't any rapids though....but it can appear rough on a windy day....
as for the other details....I can't really remember if there are steps leading down from the stone path, but the stone path is there.

I'll let you know after I've taken a stroll down there !!
Mark

I've often wondered about these types of things myself.  After all, in MANY of my projections around my house, I've seen family members who I've interacted with who were not there in "real life"....I use that term loosely!

For example, when I was living with my folks, I had tons of experiences where I would project into the kitchen and talk with my mom.  For the most part, I tried to convince her that I was OBE (since she's a born again Christian and doesn't believe these are godly).

Since I'm of the belief that we're all multi-dimensional beings, I think that I was still interacting with my mom....just on another level of communication.  Just because you have an astral interaction with your wife and she has no physical memory of it does not mean that you didn't interact with her true self.  At least, that's the way I think of it.

I wonder what others think, since this is a good topic of discussion.


Keep smiling,

Jeff Mash
MyJokeMail.com - Jokes and Humor
http://myjokemail.com

G,day Amcturbo

I'm not sure about the energy side of things with restless leg syndrome, but I do know what helps as I have this problem myself,& have had since I was about 15. I know what the sleepless nights are like just turning over & over, stretching the legs in bed, enormous tension there & just generally a very tight feeling in the legs.

I found that doing stretches before bed really helps. Either stretches used in karate (such as taekwondo) or yoga stretches work well. One of the best ones which the doctor told me to do, which is also used in karate, is to lay on your back with one leg down flat & the other leg is lifted by you. That is, you lift your wifes leg in the air as high as it will go,without over stretching it & tearing a muscle.

I do stretches every night now regardless of if I feel my legs are tense or not & if I still feel that I'm going to have a rough night with it, I take Quinine, which is pretty rarely & not sure if your wife could use it because of the baby.

Accupuncturists sell this disgusting tasting powder that also works well, but is a little expensive, although natural.

Good luck mate

Mobius

They're not, I'm afraid. I'm on a bit of an Astral projection downer at the moment. Last one was about 10 days ago.  

Lately, I've been practising developing my navigation skills and have been trying to project to Focus 27. I want to go to what the Monroe school calls TMI-There, and see if it's all true what they say, about the crystal and everything. And I was rather hoping I might be able to contact Bob Monroe and have a chat, as I've got a number of questions for him. I've had no success so far.

As for Harath, he's around somewhere, I know that much as I often sense his light in the distance. But these guides can be mighty frustrating to deal with at times. Everytime he takes a step back I know there's a lesson I need to discover somewhere. Problem is, sometimes they won't just simply come out and tell you what you need to do, or just simply guide you to where it is you need to go.

Yours,
Frank

It was my understanding that this a treatable condition. I strongly recommend you see a credentialed sleep specialist if you haven't already. (See "The Promise of Sleep" for a paragraph or two more info. The little I know comes from this book.)

With respect to energy, some untested ideas off the top of my head:

Your wife might do full body and leg bouncing for 5 to 15 minutes, once or twice a day, every day. This will strengthen, clear, and widen the energy channels in the legs, making spontaneous flow less noticeable and irritating in the long run.

1. Also, if the energy is coming in spontaneously, taking time out to intentfully raise energy might lessen the demand during the night.

2. If the energy is flowing out, help it. She might "vent," stream energy from her hands and feet.

Choose wisely between one and two!

Also, visualizations involving balancing energy might help. Prayer, etc. Don't underestimate it!

All the best,

Mark

Very interesting
I had a neg encounter early this morning too.

I had a false awakening with sleep paralysis and a very dark, blurry entity began to attack me.  Because everything around me was my bedroom, I thought I was in the physical plane.  When I broke out I awoke feeling annoyed that i'd missed the chance to fight back.  I love to stand up for myself.
It made me wonder wether it was a dream or not, it all seemed very real.  I had set up shields last night before sleep but they obviously weren't good enough.

Also, don't know if this is linked, but last night we heard some very loud taps and knocks in the room.  It got louder and faster as I turned up the TV and when I ordered whatever was making the noises to leave, we heard a final (very loud) knock and then it ceased.

KP

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i couldnt resist an excuse to add another post to my name.  gold member here i come.

Nope, never read it.


Keep smiling,

Jeff Mash, Founder and Editor
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Main ones are:

F22: People suffering chemical dependency such as alchohol, i.e. being blind drunk; people suffering from delirium, or those who are otherwise comotose.

Prospects: reasonable to next-to-none (depending on Physical circumstances).
Power: very little to none.
Hope for the future: reasonable to next-to-none, depending on Physical circumstances.


F23: Dead but stuck close to RT zone. Could be for a number of reasons, for example: strong feelings of wanting to get revenge; confused suicide cases, etc. These people have normally suffered some *major* emotional trauma at the point of physical death. Like, being executed for a murder they didn't commit, and so forth.

Prospects: maybe get listed in the Physical as a ghost.
Power: limited to scaring people in the Physical who should really know better.
Hope for the future: very little (rescue is possible but highly dependent on age and circumstances).


F24, 25 & 26: Dead, but when physical accepted various premises and concepts. These would normally include (but are in no way limited to) religious and philosophical beliefs: but who are entirely unaware that thought is a primary energy that creates their surrounding circumstances. Therefore, range of possible actions is limited to whatever are the acceptable range of actions within the adopted belief system (concensus reality, in other words).

Prospects: limited to "rising within the ranks" of the adopted belief-system.
Power: more or less, depending on belief-system position. But always restricted, ultimately, by overall constraints of belief system.
Hope for the future: mental realisation of limitations of belief-system leading to escape and/or rescue to F27 (highly dependent on age and circumstances).


F27: True afterlife region. Dead and aware (to a greater or lesser extent) that thought is a primary energy that creates your circumstances. In other words, people in this region are free to have all the fun they can muster, in whatever way, shape, or form they choose.

Prospects: unlimited.
Power: unlimited.
Hope for the future: unlimited.


HTH

Yours,
Frank

What a wonderful idea!

I'ts so simple, yet the power of positive, uplifting energy that can be transferred this way would be quite significant.

Thanks for sharing this Greg. This can be put to GOOD use.http://www.astralpulse.com/forums/images/icon_Smile_approve.gif" border=0>

James S

- You don't choose the belief, the belief chooses you!

When in bed it feels wrong to me to have the rope coming down from above. I use a mostly horizontal rope, with a slight incline going up past my head. It is more a horizontal rope than anything else. It is a lot of effort, usually, but there are times when it seems to pick up momentum and go on its own. Oddly, this usually also causes the rope to move into my body, and it feels like my "hands" are over my head, pulling the rope into my head. Still looking forward to projecting.

You can project while in direct contact with another person?

I'm sorry that I can't help you, since most of the entities I have seen while "out" appear to be normal, human people.  I have yet to see any hooded figures, but I do want to thank you for sharing that experience.  I know you said you weren't scared, but if I saw a 7 foot being standing in front of my door, I would probably poop three shades of green.

I wonder if it's morphing was a way of tranforming into a figure that was less intimidating?  Or perhaps the different shapes that it took were representative of it's past life experiences (German pilot, etc.)


Keep smiling,

Jeff Mash, Founder and Editor
MyJokeMail.com - Jokes and Humor
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It may have something to do with an increased energy flow through your energy body. To look at it from a scientific approach; maybe your not used to the amount of energy that your energy body is receiving so it needs wasting. The wastage may comes in the form of vibrations. Have you been doing any energy work recently? I've never personally experienced this.

By the way...I'm no expert and the explanation is just my idea...so please all you experts out there, don't go ripping me to shreds http://www.astralpulse.com/forums/images/icon_Smile.gif" border=0>

Wow Greg, you're dynamic! LOL I loved your post, and your experiences sound REALLY COOL.

Here's what you try next time in you're in the darkness - Don't try to 'see,' instead try to 'allow yourself to perceive.'  The first one can stimulate your physical sight apparatus (as you found out, and as I found out the first time out) the second one does not. (at least it worked for me!)

Good luck!

Patty