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well considering that many people on this board have said that they have tested their oob projection and found it to be real, i can't really say that it is a lucid dream.

i can, however, put up the theory that perhaps an oob projection (oobp) is remote viewing capabilities combined with remote influencing capabilities. unfortunately, there are many that have said they see other spirits as well as themselves, so that takes out the idea of remote viewing since remote viewing allows you to see things far away from you, but doesn't give a "physical" presence in that place.

as well, i have a friend who oobp's by seperating his spirit and his body via a plane of energetic force, then creates a tether to which he anchors his spirit to his body while he projects. so this gives credence to the idea of the spirit actually leaving the body.

~kakkarot

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G,day Countess

Welcome to Astral Pulse, I'm sure will will enjoy your stay. You will probably find a variety of positions held on what happens to the body during an OBE, but from everything I have read, dreams & lucid dreams are a mild form of an OBE, but when leaving the body & consciously choosing to do so & then either entering the real time zone or an astral plane, but choosing to do so is different I believe.

The different bodies contained within has been part of many religions & cultures for many years & Robert Bruce does a good job in describing logically our astral body & talks about a projectable double be generated from your etheric body, which stays with you until your physical form ceases to be, an original copy of all your information that stays until death.

So the consensus seems to be that we have 1) a physical body, 2) an etheric body & 3) the projectable double that the etheric body generates, that can either dream, but wake up & not realise it, or dream & realise your dreaming, or realising your dreaming & interacting by choice (lucid dream), or you can leave your body, but have been asleep, woke up & forgot, or you can be having an OBE asleep, but suddenly realise what is happening, consciously act or participate & then remember it when you wake.

Or you can be aware the entire way, realizing you have a projectable double & consciously choosing to leave the body, noticing the falling sensation or vibrations or rising/ floating sensations, being conscious of it happening & actually catch the astral wave like the silver surfer & move with a purpose to some destination or entity you wish to interact with.

Anyway, someone else might give you some other ideas as to what the consensus of this forum is, once again welcome & good journeys.

Mobius