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Hey there,

Thought you all might wanna know that reasearchers in New York were able to trigger the astral projection sensation by stimulating a certain part of the brain.  I'm looking for an article online to back me up... one of my proffessors told the class. 


Kyle

Well I had a few experiences in the past that were close (and i thought were full-fledged projections), but this was my first real projection.  I was tryin to do phasing, but it still felt like a projection when it happened.  Anyways, after being scared for months of seeing all the scary stuff everyone talks about...  I instead find myself orbiting the earth.  It was the most beautiful thing I've ever seen, and it felt so real.  I know its all in my head... and it was short lived, but alllll I needed.

http://www.colorado.edu/engineering/BioServe/lgplanet.jpg


 times 1 million

Hey y'all,

If one is phasing properly they feel no "exit" symptoms, correct?  Or is this different for everyone?  For example...  If someone was using the trampoline rundown and phased - they would just transition right into that scene (which would be F2 I believe) with nothing in between?  

I am asking because I am trying to switch to phasing coming from the old projection methods/theories (mainly Astral Dynamics).  I had mild success with the old methods.  Now when I am trying to phase, I seem to be stuck with these exit symptoms.

Do people still get into the trance state while trying to phase?..the place with all the popping sounds and seeing through eyelids.  What does the phasing model say the trance state is?  Still physical right?  Is that wider F1??  If anyone still gets in this state often... what do you do to take it to the next level with phasing?  Do people still have exit symptoms as if they were leaving the body?  Or does this go away for most people after switching to phasing.

Should I be changing something, or just continuing as I were - but keeping in mind that I'm not really projecting to plane or anything.  Rather, I am just inside me head.  

I've been reading posts and the newsletters, and I'm starting to understand the Frank's phasing model... but I still feel like I'm still off in left field.  I still can't say I have had a full blown experience with projection or phasing... so maybe that's why.  

Thanks to anyone who can set these things straight for me!  It really was originally going to be 1 quick phasing question... I swear.  I Don't know what happened.  

Thanks again,
Kyle

Had my first real OBE.  I did quite of bit of energy work and was pretty tired already (only 4 hours of sleep, followed by 2 hours of lab work).  Then i started phasing in and out of dream and RTZ.   Eventually after working in deep trance on these energy blocks in my groin/thigh areas that I've always been dealing with... finally i lifted off... i kind of tried to stop it, because i get freaked out by the loss of reality (such has been the case for the last 3 or 4 months).  After a bit i just let it go.... and started floating away.   It was so peaceful when i let it.  I started floating backwards - it was like i was on a lazy river, being carried away.  After a little bit, i started to see colors, and it was like i was floating down this color tube backwards(awesome lol).   Even though it felt great and nothing scary was happening, i pulled out at this point.  hehehehe, I'm terrible... but I'm building up courage slowly but surely.

it may not even really be an obe since i didnt end up anywheres...   thats it woo!

[3d effect in the blackness surrounding you]

Hello,

I was reading this in the FAQ section about focus levels >>>

There is some confusion and uncertainty regarding the focus 12 through 21 states and differentiating them appropriately. Frank, our in-house expert on phasing, and several others have noted how the transition from focus 10 to 12 is often characterized by seeing several abstract forms and and colors, often very quickly followed by a 3d effect in the blackness surrounding you. Hence, there is some controversy on the exact delination between focus 12, 15 and 21. Perhaps the 3D blackness of focus 21 can be said to be more expansive to the extent that it starts to touch upon 'astral locations' beyond focus 21.

(Just wanted to add something in here - I'm not all to familiar with focus levels and phasing... Just started reading up on them a few days ago.  That's when I happened to stumble across the quote above - which caught my attention. I have read a great deal on astral projection, but these focus levels and phasing are relatively new.  Anyways....)

That area that I bolded is what I'm really looking at. A dozen or so times in the last 3 or 4 years I have had experiences that I feel could be described well by the 3D blackness. These have happened when I have lied down for naps or sometimes when I'm going to sleep. They happen right away, usually within a few seconds of closing my eyes. I do not have to meditate or raise energy or anything of that sort.

There seems to be these shapes surrounding me like you said. There is no color - just blackness... very vague outlines if anything. It seems like they grow and then shrink to levels that my mind cannot comprehend. They will stretch out to infinity, and then warp to infinitely small (brings a black hole to mind - when the shapes get super small... not that i've been in a black hole but...) It feels like they are somehow expanding/contracting in a fourth dimension beyond length/width/height... and I can sense it, but not really comprehend or understand just whats going on.

When I focused on the shapes for some time I would start too loose sense of my body. It was an amazing but very frightening feeling at the same time (I knew nothing about OBE at the time). This hasn't happened again since I learned about OBE, phasing, projection and such - but I am eager for another chance. I assume I should go with the flow if it happens again?

Is this the same thing being described in that post/quote from above? If so, any idea why it would happen so suddenly for me? I can not will it to happen, it just randomly occurs here and there. When it does happen though, it does so without effort. What does following through with it lead too?  Any other general info on it?

Got kind of long... lots of questions there too, sorry. If anyone has any ideas/answers/info I'd love to hear it. Thanks for your time - it is greatly appreciated.


Thanks y'all
Kyle

Hello everyone

The other day I was in a hotel in Chicago and was pretty tired so I decided to lay down on the bed and do some energy work.  This was during daylight.  Now I haven't successfully projected before, but I have come very close.  I tend to pull myself out of it at the last second.  Anyways... after maybe 20 minutes of mediation/energy raising suddenly I could see through closed eyelids.  This has only happened to me once before and it was for only a few seconds.  From reading Astral Dynamics my best guess would be that I had Real Time Zone sight.  Everything was murky brown/white colored.  I seemed to be "seeing" from where my physical eyes would be.  Suddenly from the left side of my vision a white ghost/spirit something or rather came floating by(I couldn't adjust my vision, left, right, up, down or otherwise.... it was just stuck in one place).  I wasn't scared of it (which surprised me), and instead I focused on it and tried to say "Hello".  It stopped when it was right in front of me... just beyond the foot of the bed.  It was clothed in robes/rags, that sort of thing, and I couldn't see a face.  Nothing happened then so I was sort of baffled for a second... it just stared at me.    Then it flew at me real quick, and I woke up.  I noticed  an energy rush right when "collided" with me.   All in all I thought the whole thing was amazing.  The most vivid experience I have had to date.  I doubt this is really something out of the ordinary for a veteran projector... but it's new for me!!!  In my ponderings I have come up with a few theories.  First, I thought it was real time zone vision, and I saw a spirit.  Then I thought maybe I had projected, and the "spirit" was my projected double reentering my body(though I had no vision or memory of being that second spirit/body/thing).  The energy rush at the last second was maybe the energy symptoms associated with reentry?  I briefly pondered that maybe I had become possessed...lol, but I'm not worried.  I feel great, nothing out of the ordinary has happened since, and the spirit didn't seem hostile or anything of that sort.  

Well, got kind of long... but that's that.  It was a most amazing experience for me.  If anyone has any ideas of exactly what it was - I'd love to hear em!!  I am pretty much a rookie at OBE of any kind.  I know this doesn't compare to some of the wild stories I read on the forums... but it sure blew my mind for awhile!!!   Thanks much!

Take care,
Kyle

Just posting to try and see if we could get a live chat program on this website at all?   I don't know how well an AIM chat would work.  People are unsure about downloading among other things... just a pain in the arse pretty much.  I hope some moderators see this and can pass it on to their superiors.   I think it would be very beneficial for everyone!!!

Honk if you support it!!!

Peace,
Kyle

Good idea!

I'm in there right now.

Hello,

I am going to college right now and have reached the point where I HAVE to make a decision about which major/career I want to pursue.  I am currently working on a biology major, but I am not real sure if that would realllllly do it for me.  I love the sciences and I love astral projection/metaphysics/meditation and things of this sort.  I am just wondering if anyone has any information or guidance or any ideas about:

1) Different careers in this field
         -I have read a lot about the reasearch being done on photographing and mapping the aura (which sounds quite interesting... I can't see em yet, but I will someday... someday soon).   I don't really see myself as a writer or teacher even though these would probably be the most obvious careers in the field.  I guess I would prefer something involving both the sciences and the "otherworldly" (dont know what to call it... sorry).

2) If you have some ideas of careers, what sort of a degree if anyone would be required or benificial.

3)  Would you know anyone to contact or somewhere to get more information?

Better yet, maybe someone on here is working in the field!  ...Could maybe put in a good word for me har har har  

I'm really just starting to look into all of this and am trying to get some leads... somewhere to start.  I just wanted to put out a general post.  I have been e-mailing people and the whole works.  Any info or ideas, and I mean ANYTHING... just put it out, please.  I would love to hear from ya'll, and it is, of course, very much appreciated!!!!!

Thanks a million,
Kyle