Hello everyone,
I have studied OBE's off and on for about 3 years now and have long been a member of this site as well (although i was unable to recover my 1st account made here). Anyway, due to personal issues i have fallen in and out of the study of OBE's, but now i am completely determined to hone this discipline. I am able to achieve trance state fairly easily (mind awake/body asleep). several times i have had the classic OBE symptoms when attempting an exit technique in deep trance, but i have yet to exit my body (or yet to remember doing it). I really just need a little advice from someone who is experienced and maybe could help me in anyway. A routine attempt goes like this....I put myself in a deep trance and sometimes raise energy but most of the time do not. once i am in trance i begin to use one of two techniques point shift or rope. on a more successful attempt i will feel strange energy sensations like i am growing, my heart chakra will start racing, i will feel a pulling in my torso, i will start to hear a strange high pitched whirring sound and then at the height of all these symptoms when it feels as though i should exit..... nothing... and everything just fades away. another very strange problem is my face especially around where my eyes are begin to twitch very hard and fast and becomes very uncomfortable... the easiest explanation is that i havent relaxed my face enough but it doesnt make sense because iu spend a lot of time relaxing my whole body and it seems strange that if i wasnt relaxed that i would enter trance state and have projection symptoms... i believe my face twitching my attribute to many of the failures ive had as it has been present each time. I have read through Astral Dynamics as well as many other OBE type books. Robert briefly mentions that he has dealt with this type of phenomenon but failed to really expand at that point what to do in this situation where a would be projector fails to fully project. This is a very frusterating situation for me as i want to project more than anything but i refuse to give up. I know this all takes time and was just wondering if anyone who has had experience with this could give me a little more advice then, "keep trying." =)... any response is greatly appreciated. Thank you for your time.
-Chris
I have studied OBE's off and on for about 3 years now and have long been a member of this site as well (although i was unable to recover my 1st account made here). Anyway, due to personal issues i have fallen in and out of the study of OBE's, but now i am completely determined to hone this discipline. I am able to achieve trance state fairly easily (mind awake/body asleep). several times i have had the classic OBE symptoms when attempting an exit technique in deep trance, but i have yet to exit my body (or yet to remember doing it). I really just need a little advice from someone who is experienced and maybe could help me in anyway. A routine attempt goes like this....I put myself in a deep trance and sometimes raise energy but most of the time do not. once i am in trance i begin to use one of two techniques point shift or rope. on a more successful attempt i will feel strange energy sensations like i am growing, my heart chakra will start racing, i will feel a pulling in my torso, i will start to hear a strange high pitched whirring sound and then at the height of all these symptoms when it feels as though i should exit..... nothing... and everything just fades away. another very strange problem is my face especially around where my eyes are begin to twitch very hard and fast and becomes very uncomfortable... the easiest explanation is that i havent relaxed my face enough but it doesnt make sense because iu spend a lot of time relaxing my whole body and it seems strange that if i wasnt relaxed that i would enter trance state and have projection symptoms... i believe my face twitching my attribute to many of the failures ive had as it has been present each time. I have read through Astral Dynamics as well as many other OBE type books. Robert briefly mentions that he has dealt with this type of phenomenon but failed to really expand at that point what to do in this situation where a would be projector fails to fully project. This is a very frusterating situation for me as i want to project more than anything but i refuse to give up. I know this all takes time and was just wondering if anyone who has had experience with this could give me a little more advice then, "keep trying." =)... any response is greatly appreciated. Thank you for your time.
-Chris