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I've had this a few times now. I have to push so hard to get through ceilings - pushing with my legs to give me lift and sometimes there is so much resistance to get through a ceiling, or roof into the outside ether, or void. Sometimes it's almost painful going through the roof. Please note, these are normally fictional roofs in fictional/dream buildings, not the actual house that I live in.

Has anyone else had this?

Recently I've been going through the usual stages of becoming lucid once I'm out of my body, when dosing, then becoming conscious of floating around my room and exiting to outside. I generally feel the typical feeling of lifting and flying upwards into the sky as usual but where in the past, I've then ended up 'landing' somewhere in the astral planes after all of this, recently I keep not managing to get anywhere at all (not for want of trying!) I keep willing it to happen but it doesn't. I've tried various techniques like saying 'take me where I need to go' but even if that has done anything at all, I've generally ended up somewhere undesirable! Recently I asked to be healed from my illness and then got attacked in a painful way by pidgeons! Any advice/suggestions? Also, I keep not being able to see - maybe something to do with the fact I'm still sleepy...?

By the way, has anyone tried detoxing/activating their third eye with success?

During most of my recent APs, I haven't really managed to access the astral planes. I often end up lapsing into a dream, indeed, even when I leave my body, I do so in a dream state and the RTZs seem more like dreamscapes than physical reality! As a result, my recent APs have been pretty dull!

A couple of times recently, I've managed to realise I'm having a lucid dream and have then purposefully stopped the dream and the storyline. Both times - this resulted in me being instantaneously propelled forwards at an intense speed and travelling like this for quite a long time. The second time it happened, I was in a psychedelic tunnel!!! I haven't yet managed to travel to anywhere yet though!

I've tried saying things like 'take me where I need to go' but it hasn't really provided good results.

Also, I'd really like to contact my deceased father but every time I've asked for that, I've ended up with a mental projection of him.

Any tips??

Can anyone recommend any good binaural beats music, that's pleasant to listen to for meditation?

I have heard many accounts of people leaving their bodies and being in their actual room or house and flying off into the surrounding areas. However, every time I've done it, I always end up in a 'made up' room and generally astral project to places that are like dreams.

Does anyone know how I can AP into my actual room? Do you think I am more likely to achieve this if I AP through the means of meditation, rather than lucid dreaming?

I manage to leave my body intentionally and am visited by an entity, called Trour!

I went back to bed for a nap, with the aim of consciously projecting and leaving my body. I became conscious that I was trying to leave my body but it was really difficult. I made several attempts, mostly trying to crawl out of my body sideways but felt really heavy and couldn't move much. I finally succeeded but felt heavy and couldn't fly very well. It was pitch black. I heard a voice. It was a kind sounding man with a Scottish accent. He explained to me I was in my etheral body, which is why I was experiencing the difficulties. I asked him how I could enter my astral body from the etheral body but he didn't give me a straight answer and said it would happen when I was ready, which was strange, as I have astral projected several times! He then got me to repeat a mantra: 'give me joy, give me sorrow, give me pain, give me sorrow'. I started to see a red, fiery world, where there was a war/battle happening. I was only there for an instant. He said he'd taken me there so that I knew how to deal with/end an experience like that. However, he didn't actually tell me how to end the experience! I told him that I'd already ended up in some undesirable places before and that I've managed to end exit from them (generally I've woken up every time in the process of exiting these places). I asked him what his name was and where he was from. He said his name was Trour and he was half Scottish, half Australian! At the time, I felt like he was very noble and wise but now I'm not so sure. Maybe he was merely a projection of my mind, distracting me from achieving a higher level projection!

However, on the plus side, this is a starting point for leaving my body intentionally, rather than spontaneously!

Soooo....as 'Trour' was unable to answer these questions, does anyone have any ideas?:

1. Is there a good way to exit the pitch black space and etheral body to reach higher planes and abilities? Meditation?
2. Does anyone have any suggestions for exiting an undesirable place to get to a better place? Phasing?

I'd also love to hear what your thoughts are on this experience and if anyone's had a similar experience!

Does anyone have any tips for getting rid of mental projections when APing via a lucid dream? I tried saying 'erase illusions!' and spinning but neither of them worked.

I know that most of the people/entities I've been encountering are projections from my mind. Has anyone been able to distinguish between what are real and what are not?

I've recently started experiencing AP spontaneously, through lucid dreaming. I'm wondering how different this experience is to conscious astral projecting. How do the landscapes differ (if at all)? Do the astral planes seem more real when one consciously projects from meditation, rather than sleep? When one astral projects from a lucid dream, are the places we visit merely dreamscapes, or are they a form of astral plane? Or is our location in the astral planes but our consciousness in a dream?

What are the best methods to use to help myself AP through lucid dreaming at will, rather than spontaneously?

Any input gratefully received!

I had another lucid dream projection and felt a couple of electric shocks during it and also when I re-entered my body. It was quite painful. Has anyone else experienced this or know why this happens? This is the first time this has happened to me.

I once again exited my body effortlessly, whilst lucid dreaming. I entered the RTZ and almost instantly started ascending, once I'd walked straight through the wall of the house. This ascension was a wonderful feeling. I remember flying over some houses and then ascended even more to a glorious coastal scene with a beautiful beach, sea and trees along the coastline. There were no people there and I was overwhelmed with a sense of peace and release. On entering this place, I saw light and felt a loving presence - maybe an angel. I think I also passed through a forest, which had a similar feeling of love and warmth.

I then experienced a stark contrast to this wonderful place. I can't remember how I got there - I don't remember descending, either. This place felt incredibly sad, eerie and lonely. It was underwater and there were some sea creatures - all of whom looked pretty bleak, ill and melancholy. The water was cloudy and merky. Then all of a sudden, I felt someone's hand delve deep into my chest - where my heart is and tried to rip it out!!!!! It was like they were trying to take my soul!!!!!! Luckily, I remembered what I had read on a previous forum that if you are attacked by and evil entity to raise your vibration by focusing on feelings of love and gratitude. This was hard to do whilst I was having my heart almost ripped out. I was actually feeling quite intense physical pain, too! After a few minutes, my emanation of love worked and I think this was where the experience ended and I went back into my body. I woke up feeling a pain in my chest. It really felt like someone had had their hand in there. I could feel where the fingers had been! However, I fortunately didn't feel to messed up, as I think the positive energy I absorbed from the previous places had over-ridden this nasty encounter and I've had a glow about me all day.

I am very struck by both the positive and negative experiences of this astral projection and it is raising a few questions in my mind. The main one is 'who' was that entity that tried to remove my soul??!! What would have happened if it had succeeded? I didn't believe in demons before but now I'm not so sure! Has this ever happened to anyone else? I'd love to hear about your experiences and the kinds of landscapes you've seen.