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I mean moving a physical object while out of my body...
I only just yesterday rearanged my bedroom while I was in the planes.

I donot see how you could think I ment otherwize...
This thread is about moving things in the physical world while your out of your body... I would not have posted if I wasnt talking about that.

Hi AstralBorn, are you sure it is so simple? I've heard it is not so easy. Have you ever tried it? Were you able to move the physical object from the astral plane?

qbeac I have indeed tried it, And of corse I could move it... Otherwize I would not have said anything.
This is a common thing with me... I move things alot...
And I am not a liar nor am I delusional...

It is as simple as I said...
Draege believeing it cannot be done as you do is what stops you from being able to do it...

Never said anything about dying or being killed...
"They" can stop you from being able to go back to your body...
Your body stays alive...

My team and I are working on designing something to allow ANYONE and EVERYONE to Astral Project at will and ALLMOST instantly...

A little about my team...
Jake... He is 15, Sceptic, Never Projected, Doesnt believe in it, "NOT POSSIBLE"

Alex... She is 19, Cannot project by herself, Been in the Planes 3 times

Sarah... She is 17, Can Project by herself, Takes 30 mins to Project, Projected about 50 times

Jenna... She is 21, Quite good, Makes allsorts of electronic devices, Projects about 2 times a week, doesnt take long

Dave... He is 19, The "Technique Guy" He knows allmost EVERY technique ever knowen, Never projected by himself but is in the Planes every day

And me... Im 16, Project at will and Instantly, Computer Programer, Never had the pleasure of trying any techniques as I have never needed them, Have access to a huge range of resources, Know the Planes insideout, Have heaps of theory's...

Alot of people are saying what we are trying to do "Cannot" be done... especially by Us... But what do they know...

We are planning on setting up a website as soon as we find a host.

The thing we hope will be portable and light not some big thing or somthing run on a computer...

Currently we have made a bunch of CD's that work with binaural beats.
Jenna has made a watch-like device that does a real good job at relaxing the body.

We think the end result might be a mix of the two things


If you think you have any good ideas that could help us out in our goal please
email the details to AstralBorn [at] gmail [dot] com

.::~AstralBorn~::.

What people fail to realize is that WE donnot own the Astral World...
They own themselfs, They have all the right to tell us where we can and cannot go.
There is Many places one can get introuble for going...
When I first saw the title of this topic
I thought you had actuly done somthing wrong and were being prosecuted for it...
Im afraid to say you simply fell back into a lucid dream... Nothing more.
If you had gone somewhere in the Astral Planes you shouldnt have I can asure you
you would not have been allowd to come back into the physical world...

What it means is you had one strange and meaningless dream...

Sorry, I was looking more for an actual pic or link to an actual pic
not just were I could find some

Moving an object in the physical world around while you are in the Astral Planes is extreamly simple...
It's just like going through a wall... If you think about it to much you will find it hard to get through, If you believe your hand wont just go through the object strong enough you will find it wont and you can move it...

Im looking for some nice pictures...
Somthing beautiful, peaceful...
Somewhere that someone would go to get away from everything
With the apparence that it is the only place in existance
A beach, lake, stream, forrest, Island in the middle of nowhere with never ending sea... Places like that... Best if it's a real photo of a real place
But aslong as it's real enough you can't tell the diff it's all cool.
Does anyone have anything like that?
Please, It would be a huge help.

Very easy...
If one is advanced enough they can see the sleeping persons Astral Body lying there above there physical body (RTZ)
Some people think they can see there Astral Body but it's only because they want to see it... It's not real though.
If you can see them it is very easy to wake them up in there astral body...
But it must be done very gently... That means no going up and shaking the hell out of there Astral Body...

I have done this thousands of times
I have been projecting as long as I can remember so for me it is easy
For someone that hasnt been APing so long it is harder but very possible.

Bonjour!

I realy don't know what to say...
I live in New Zealand.
I was born on the 20th March 1989

I have been in the Astral Planes most of my life.
I have spent more time there then I have in the physical world.
I can find my way around it very easily
There was alot of nice beings there that helped me learn evrything I needed to know...
Well, I have to head off now.
Au revoir!