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Stevie, those things you saw were Hypnagogic hallucinations, which means you were very close to the onset of sleep / dreaming, which is a very good state to be in. You are very close. I think the shaking body thing you described might be what people here call the vibrations. When all this is happening you're likely getting excited and that would be ruining the state. Trying to use the rope technique when you're not completely calm isn't going to help. I'd just try again, but keep calm. You're doing fine without CDs and stuff.

As for fear, rather than giving up on it and going back to your body when you encounter it like bondgirl suggests, I'd just try to overcome the fear - just ignore whatever is causing it. It can't hurt you anyway.

2432615184: Your vision is like dream vision; it comes naturally, you don't have to open eyelids or anything. As for whether it's first or third person, that really depends. You see your physical body from an external perspective (third person?) but you see everything from the perspective of an imaginary / ethereal body (first person).

If you're really worried about it, you should ask a doctor.

IANAD, but AFAIK when you're out of body, you're in a state physiologically identical to that of sleep. AP shouldn't be any more dangerous than just sleeping / dreaming.

Yes, I've had sex with a ghost. One time I was attempting a projection I felt there was a huge pressure and buzz in the room from dozens of spirits. I had the bizarre idea of offering one a square of chocolate in return for sex. And uh, yeah... The result was an intense orgasm.

Probably a hallucination. Sleep paralysis is often accompanied by hallucinations (such as the 'Old Hag').

I don't doubt that blind people can see during OBEs, but if you've been blind all your life, is it possible that you might mistake "feeling in every direction at once" for vision?

It sounds like an OBE to me. The rule I use is, if it feels real, it is. How many OBEs have you had before? (Sorry if this is obvious to other posters - I've been absent from this board a long time.) Generally, it gets easier to tell the more you have had.
About projecting to the wrong house - it sometimes happens to me. I don't think it means it wasn't real, it just means you teleported at some point during the exit (or since you were dreaming before, it might be possible that your astral body was travelling around there while you were asleep).

On the subject of projecting into space...

Here's what I wrote in my dream journal ------------------------
I was having a quite weird dream about an old witch breaking into a house using nothing but a hosepipe, and then the dream stopped abruptly. Everything was black except for a small patch of my field of view, where I could see my room from where I was lying.
I got up and realised I was projecting, and I had tunnel vision. I said "full vision now!", and the tunnel squeezed my vision further. I said "I can see normally," and my vision blurred (how ironic, lol). I heard a little voice at the back of my mind saying something like "Ask to go somewhere where you can see normally," and so I did what it said, and everything went black. I felt like I was gently and slowly spinning, and then my vision came back and I was in space, looking around at thousands and thousands of stars. I started to swim in one direction (how else can you move in space? Theoretically it would be impossible without some propulsion system, because there'd be nothing to push off... I suppose I could throw a shoe, and conservation of momentum would mean I speed up in the opposite direction...)
After a short while I looked down and saw a strange sight. There was a little point in space spewing out thin blue sparks and fat red sparks, and around it was a ring of football-sized rocks, dancing around the point like synchronised swimmers. At this point I started to wonder if someone had slipped psychedelic substances into my mouth while I slept, but I was so overcome with joy and laughter I pushed the thought to the side, and swam closer to the cosmic object. The joy I felt was weird.. I was saying things like "Oh my god, this is amazing, I can't believe it," but looking back on it now I don't quite understand why I was being so 'over the top'.
I got a little closer and noticed some more people near the object. I quickly realised that this place was a kind of tourist attraction for astral projectors. I swam closer to the people, and the synchronised swimming rocks created a hollow sphere around the red and blue sparks. I looked at the people there, and recognised two of them. One was someone I went to primary school with, and who I dreamt about this morning before my OBE, and the other was one of my best friends. I asked the latter if she was projecting and she said she was. And then the experience ended.
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Unfortunately I was unable to verify that I had in fact met that person on the astral. I mentioned I "had a dream where I was swimming in space," but it didn't seem to cause her to remember anything.. I didn't want to let on I was a lunatic

could be just a strong electromagnetic feild in the area you live also

LOL! Sue the council (if you're in the UK)!

I don't think you were 'attacked' or even in the presence of another entity. What you experienced was the beginning of an out of body experience. When you tried to call your dog you brought your attention back to your body.
The intuitive knowledge that there's another presence in the room is very typical of sleep paralysis, but there isn't usually anything there. Explanations vary from hallucination to your physical and astral bodies sensing each other in a kind of feed back loop.
I'm not going to enforce a belief on you, so it's up to you to decide what exactly it was. Hallucination, dream, or 'real', it's up to you. And if you have any sense, you'll be very sceptical of 'bad' spirits. Misplaced beliefs can take you to some dark places...
I'd recommend reading some of this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sleep_paralysis

Thanks for those articles, MisterJingo.
The endocrine system does seem like a good match, but there's no direct translation for the root chakra

I don't think its a circulation problem. When your body goes to sleep your heart-rate naturally lowers and your body temperature drops a little too (I think so anyway).

It means you must have trapped an artery in your neck because you cut off the blood circulation to your body.

j/k

dingo wrote:

You might as well quote from snow white and the seven dwarfs, it's just as factually accurate.

This is a good example of throwing away the baby with the bathwater.  Not all the quantum physicists were misquoted, and not everything was channeled information.
There were some physicists that were quoted accurately, and at least one neurologist that agreed with their conclusions.

It was about quantum mechanics, not neurology (and thats ONE neurologist out of thousands around the world?). The physicists that were quoted accurately were still used to 'support' the film. People would naturally assume that since one part of what was said was accurate, the whole film was accurate.
I'm "throwing away the baby with the bathwater" because the baby gives the impression that all the bathwater is accurate.

Tell me anything within quantum mechanics that is factually accurate. If were going by the notion of quantum mechanics being the science of possibilities, everything is gray, nothing is black and white.
Quantum mechanics opens up to the notion that everything and nothing is possible at the same time. It is just throwing around abstract notions until someone hits upon something that works better in theory than an existing ideal.
Matter of fact that is just science and maybe life in general.

Quantum theory is based on probability, yes, but that probability is governed by rock solid laws. The theory itself is very black and white, but the outcomes of a situation modelled in the theory aren't.
Seriously, don't rely on "What the bleep do we know" for information about quantum mechanics (or theory).

Is it possible to (or will it ever be possible to) experience the world from the perspective of software (such as AI)?
If such a thing is possible, what would be the mechanics of an energy body of a software entity - would the chakras be distributed throughout the machine's hardware, or in memory or on disk, or would there be no need for them?
Also, would the entity 'die' every time the software was terminated?
What would the effect be on the growth of the soul 'bound' to the software?

For me, deja vu is usually a situation or a location, not people.

andonitxo, do you have an article about those little brains? I'm curious.. Could they have something to do with chakras..?

(as stated in 'what the bleep do we know?')

You might as well quote from snow white and the seven dwarfs, it's just as factually accurate.

Thanks MisterJingo. I was looking for that article myself.

Yes, a tachyon is a hypothetical particle that travels at a superluminal velocity. There is, AFAIK, no proof any tachyons exist.

Tachyon energy (in spiritual context), however, is like the stem-cell of psychic energies. http://www.xehupatl.com/tachyon.htm

Unfortunately, there are many websites around that spread misinformation and try to mix these two separate concepts together (such as here: http://www.crystalinks.com/tachyon_energy.html ), just because they have the same name. I hate it when people try to say science has verified this stuff. Weirdly enough, that website also says "Nikola Tesla was successful in the creation of a car that ran on an invisible, undirectable Tachyon energy source," which is complete bollocks.

I just read the first line of your post.
"What the bleep do we know" has no basis in science. The scientists who appeared in it were terribly disappointed to have their dialog manipulated to serve the purpose of the film creator's intentions. Forget whatever you saw in that film.. lol

The problem is, alpha, that science isnt to the point were we can provide this "proof" to the general population. We're getting there, in 20 to 40 years everyone will be "projecting" through the use of computer software and all this stuff will be common knowledge.

Also, its not smart to think of hallucinations as "not real." when you do project you will be seeing ALOT of hallucinations as they are just products of your emotions.

You could, with modern techniques, scientifically prove that information gained during an RTZ OBE is correct. Just because it isn't in the general scientific consensus doesn't mean it can't be proved.

They posted it somewhere else in the forum too..

i have the exactly the same feeling, too many bad things are happening, the earth is going to became much more dangerous place to live in the next few years, i think something is going on

I don't think much more bad stuff is happening now than have been happening in the past. What about the crusades, world wars, civil wars, holocausts, etc. in the past? We haven't had them happen for a long time, we've been luck so far. But I do think that there is a greater potential for huge destruction now. Nukes are relatively easy to get a hold of, and with extremist groups preaching hate and destruction, that is not a good thing.

Things change all the time, and rarely go back. Technology is a major influencer for most change, but I suppose it depends on what the original poster meant by 'change.'

Wait till you got

YOUR DEAD

you gonna flip out !

I would accuse the spirit of not being able to spell correctly  ("you're")

Note Before: Everything you read on this page is The Truth.

I stopped reading about here.

One hell of a long post!

Knowing you're always in a dream that would be not so cool.

It would be fun at first, but get boring after a while
Perhaps you could create your own world and 'live' there for a while until eternity happens.

You completely missed the point of my post. The same physical laws apply to aliens. There's no point saying they have more advanced technology than us, because it still reaches the same restrictions ours will.
There's no such thing as anti-gravity. Gravitational forces are always attractive. There have been experiments that claim to produce anti-gravity, but the effect is actually produced by 'ion wind'. You can read about that here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ion_wind
The ion wind effect only works where there is air, so it wouldn't work in space.

Also, manipulating a black hole in a way to make it possible to use it for transport requires infinite energy. Travelling to the nearest black hole (before having any form of instant-travel) would require really huge amounts of energy and millions of years worth of patience. And even then, you can't just pop out anywhere (I think you have to come out at a 'white-hole'?). And those 'exits' would be very far from wherever we are, as we have not actually seen any.

The only thing left is what you called 'cosmic energy' (an ambiguous term). I don't know what you mean by it.