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EDIT: Wrong from, sorry, if a moderator can move it to "Astral Experiences" I'd appreciate but I don't mind either way.

I failed an attempt around 6:00AM, failed another attempt around 7:30AM, finally induced SP at 9:30AM, and out I rolled (I actually did I induce at the 7:30 time, but for some reason I though I wasn't in it yet, so I sat there for like a minute and then waking up out of it I realized I missed an opportunity).

Anyway, I rolled out, and it started out dark again, and I could feel myself floating. So I try to see, I try hard, and I start to see the floor and some light, so ok, I think "I can see the floor, and make out a few objects in the darkness which beams of light (it looked cool because if you've ever seen a cloud with beams of light going through it this is what I was seeing at this point). I say "clarity now" twice, and like an image being sharpened each time, my vision got very clear. My room, it looked... perfect. The light coming through the window lit up the room perfectly. It felt really good. I saw a small robot looking thing I guess an entity on the floor, and I flew over it above my saying "hey what's up." I then realized my mistake of flying over the bed and quickly floated off it toward my door which was wide open. My bed didn't have me laying there, but it had an imprint of as if I was there but invisible. At the door I could feel myself being pulled back, but grabbing onto the floor with my hands, and I pulled myself out of the room. My little brother's door was wide open, and I was wondering if he was in there. And then I saw him. I started yelling out to him his name and if he could see me, and since I wasn't expecting him to, he was just looking around like nothing was going on. I start turn and the experience is over I'm back in my body. I just remember how everything looked so clear and perfect, so I'm ready to go again.

Now for the bad experience. Before I roll out, I think about the possibility of encountering a negative entity. (this was out of curiosity than fear at this point). So I roll out, and as usual I can't see at first. And as my vision forms, I see a face above me, kind of human like, but slightly disoriented, with long black hair, and it made a really scary noise, which scared the crap out of me so I'm back in my body. I'm beginning to roll out, and all of a sudden I think "F*ck You!!!!!!!" toward the entity, and it only made it worse lol. I hear the noise again, and I feel it jump onto my shoulders, and I got a really odd feeling. It wasn't bad, it was like a tickle-shock lingering feeling on my shoulders (hard to describe). With that I'm back in my body. All of sudden the SP is starting to come on again uncontrollably like its trying to pull me back. With that I fight it, get out, and my morning experience is done.

About the bad experience, after waking up, I realize it wasn't scary at all. It was more a nuisance. Will it stop me from having OBEs? I think it encouraged me because I finally faced a fear and it wasn't bad at all

Thank you for the reading.

I had another OBE this morning, actually two of them, both were very short, maybe only 10-15 seconds each, but I saw another entity (or maybe another APer, I wasn't able to ask).

Very Short OBEs. Two of them one after another, each maybe lasted about 10 seconds. The first one I could not see, I could just feel myself floating around. I tried very hard to see, and actually started getting a vision of a floor, like a sand colored stone floor and then the OBE ended. Back in SP I rolled out again, this time to good vision. There was someone standing by my bed, when I got to the other side of my room, I saw it was a lady, who looked in her mid twenties, dark hair, light skin, she kind of looked like Jackie from That 70s' Show. She was just watching me. She was in a gray dress suit (with skirt not pants). I floated up over her, and saw my body below me, I also had a gray suit on, and with that I started falling toward it, and my legs went in first, soon to be followed by a slamming feeling which woke me up.

Just asking because I don't know if it was an EP or AP, and I like to keep a log

Wow, I wasn't expecting "future" validations. That's really cool. I hope I eventually I get some of my own

Mars at one point had a climate almost identical to that of Earth millions of  years ago. It wasn't until the disappearance of Mars' magnetic field that caused it to lose that warm and wet climate. Every certain amount of time, the poles of a planet reverse, but for some reason, when Mars' reversed, something went wrong and the magnetic field never went back up, which caused the atmosphere to be exposed to space.

Anyway, I don't think whatever helped us build the pyramids came from Mars (because that was a few thousands years) as opposed to millions of years ago when Mars became uninhabitable.

By the way Mars is warm enough to support humans. Temperatures around the equator reach 80F. But that's about the only thing in our favor.

I can have OBEs in the morning... but I also would like to have them when taking short naps as well.

I tried to OBE today while taking a nap for an hour, and I don't know, I just don't really know what I'm doing.

I get to the point where I'm seeing colors moving around everywhere, and today I even reached a point where I was feeling "shivers" throughout my body, I felt two of them to be exact (they are not the vibrations I feel during SP). It seems that the furthest I can get on my own. At one point my mind also went off on its own, began creating random images, and I went deeper into sleep, but the moment I become conscious of that, it brought me right back up to the stage where I was just seeing colors, and feeling the occasional shiver, which is probably the furthest I've gotten in the middle of the day.

It also seems that when attempting to get beyond the stage of seeing colors (the name of has slipped my mind, started with H), my eyes seems to tense up, and that kind of start a chain reaction and other muscles in my body begin to become tense as well. Then when I relax my eyes it's almost like I get brought up way out of the trance, only to be brought back seconds later to the stage where I'm seeing colors.

I'm stuck.

Anyone who can have OBEs at will during daily short naps, any tips?

I seem to have some kind of barrier for OBEs when taking naps. I'll get to a state where pretty much I hear going on around get's played in detail in my head. But I don't seem to get further than that. I took a nap for 30-40 minutes today and must have been in that state for atleast 25 minutes. I don't know if I can have an OBE from there, as I'm only familiar with having one after inducing SP, something that doesn't seem to happen to me when I take naps.

nice experience!!!!     I have had quite a few experiences where I have exited and gone to pass through a wall and simply blacked out and ended up somewhere in the astral.  Sounds pretty much like what happened here.  THe colored grid effect happens to me alot during SP and upon awakening after OBEs.

The "ooooooooo" thing would have scared the crap out of me, auditory hallucinations before projecting always do if they are even slightly creepy.  As a matter of fact my last projection attempt with the auditory hallucinations of Carole Anne was the first time I have had them and not royally flipped out.

Keep it up!

It was a week since my last OBE, and after 10 hours of on and off sleep, I knew this was pretty my last chance for the morning. I was also afraid of meeting/seeing other entities, so I thought, facing my fear... heh while I was floating toward it in the other room, all I could think was "Now I've done it, good job, now I've really done it!" But the experience turned out to be a good one.

By the way during your OBE did you find a Carole Anne or was a Carole Anne anywhere near you?

Did you ever try staying up for two days to try and restart your sleep cycle? My sleep cycle got really messed up during college (could not fall asleep until 3-5AM every day). When I came home, knowing I had to fix it, I thought about staying up that extra day so I could crash at around 8pm, and with the help of some Amp energy drinks to keep me up that entire day, it worked. Now I'm having trouble staying up past 11pm.

Also try to avoid long mid-day naps, those will keep you up a few extra hours  later on.

I noticed I induce OBEs the same way you do. How many OBEs did it take you to have control of your clarity?

My first and third were pretty blurry (first being the most blurry but most amazing experience).

My second was really clear, but I didn't mention "clarity now", it was just... very clear, in terms of sight and touch atleast. There wasn't much sound but nothing was going on to really cause any.

Well I'm happy for have had an AP now, this goes down as my first concious one

By the way, no more telling these to my mom. She officially thinks I'm on drugs LOL. And I hope my little bro had his first projection. I woke him at 4AM and he started slapping himself in the face to try and get more aware    

Hey thanks for the reply.

I drew something up in paint, this is the robe bottom I saw to the best of my memory. Weather or not it was HI, it was pretty much there the whole 10-15 seconds I was projecting. But I could not see above the waist the area.

It's made in paint so nobody better laugh

http://img118.imageshack.us/img118/7237/robething5ob.png

Like you said, the figure was pretty much right next to the bed, maybe like 2-3 away, and it was stationary during the entire projection. Everytime I looked back toward it, I just maybe saw it from a different angle, but it seemed to stay in the place.

Ok, I was getting really frustrated because this morning I had trouble inducing Sleep-Paralysis. After being in for 10 hours, I somehow managed to induce it FINALLY. Anyway, I knew I was getting ready to separate, but I forgot which side I was laying on, left or right (I have to lay right to be able to do roll-over technique into my room). So I know I'm wasting valueable time trying to think about this. But then I see something really cool, I saw the bed, and wall infront of me, but it was purple-blue, and it looked like a 3D grid. So hey, I'm laying on my left side, but the wall in the way! So I try backward rolling, and that doesn't work. Floating won't work. I keep feeling mild vibrations, and I start to hear"oooo...oooooooo" like someone was there watching me all interested, and the voice was also very low pitched and slightly raspy, which scared me for a second, but all I could think was "shutup" because I really wanted to project. Funny thing, the "ooooo" noise actually stopped when I thought that. Anyway, so I say what the hell, and start to roll-over technique which would have sent me toward the wall. But all of a sudden when I have vision I realize I'm not in my house.

I start rolling off some bed, and toward the ground, someone was standing there, I saw just their bottom, they were wearing some kind of red robe, it also had black on it, some kind of gold buttons I think (it looked fancy). And I landed by it, so I kind of crawl away from it, and it doesn't follow me. I'm having LOADS of trouble moving and even seeing, this was alot like my first Ethereal Projection. After about 10-15 seconds I realized I wasn't getting anywhere, and this was pretty pointless because it was really fading fast (well I had 10 hours of sleep already, I didn't expect any sleep cycles to be long).

So, what was this? Not at my house, someone elses house, but definently a projection. Was it an Astral Projection maybe? By the way this had to be the first entity/being I've seen in my 3 (including this one) known projections I've had so far.

[Can't answer that exactly, I'm not expert, probably atleast an hour]

1. How long do u think it is possible for an expert to stay in the astral for? Can't answer that exactly, I'm not expert, probably atleast an hour
2.How long do u think it is possible for a beginner to stay in the astral for? A few minutes if you're lucky
3.What do you think hallucination or a real place? A real place

My EPs have not felt like Lucid Dreams. I've had 2 Ethereal Projections, and 1 Astral (I'm actually questioning weather or not this one was real or not, as it transitioned from a dream and still felt dream-like while projecting).

But it only took my first EP to convince they were real. Even though I was really disabled in it (had blurred vision beyond 3 feet, I could barely move, I had laggy vision at first - kind of like laggy fps in a video game, and my body felt like it was really high, like high on weed or something, though I hadn't smoked it for over a month, and I've only smoked it twice in my life).

Then I may have had an AP, I was in my room, it felt dream-like, the only thing that stood out is after saying "clarity now, I need it to be clearer" it was finally very clear. But it just felt like a really clear dream. Nothing really stood out.

Then I had a very nice EP again a few days later. This one started out the same. I didn't feel high this time, I just kind of felt there. Then some new things happened. When I went through my window to go outside, I could almost feel the window moving through me - hard to explain. Then as soon as I got outside, I was really cold (and it actually was chilly that morning). I don't think I've ever felt cold in any dream ever. I've maybe felt warmth, but not exactly temperature warmth. This was like going outside bare naked in 45F temperature. I could also feel the air as I was floating around. I had almost complete control over my flying (Something that's always plagued me in Lucid Dreams), and the surroundings were very clear, without me asking for them, but I was really into the whole experience

So that's what I've had so far.

Only a few attempts

I can induce sleep-paralysis at will in the morning pretty easily. From there its easy.

Do you all feel any vibes upon exiting after the first attempt?

Last night I had SP and it wasn't induced (doesn't matter, I would have induced it myself anyway). But right away, it wasn't vibes, it was more fluttering, and it was really intense, the sound was fluttering to, also pretty loud but not terrifying. I was exitting uncontrollably. I felt myself floating out. But I had to exit because I really had to check the time (had to wake someone up and I fell asleep, luckily for only about 5 minutes and then this SP episode happened).

Anyway, I began to induce them later on, and I felt no exit sensations on any of them. I just rolled out of my body without any problems at all. Is this typical?

Something really surprised me last night. I woke up at 3:30, and had to stay awake until 4:30 to wake my mom up. I knew if I feel asleep, I would not wake up. So laying there in bed, Around 4 I feel asleep, luckily at 4:04 I woke, but I woke up Sleep-Paralysis. I felt the vibes, and heard the air rushing. I was to OBE uncontrollably, but I got myself out of it because I wasn't sure what time it was.

Anyway, at like 4:30, I woke my little brother as well. He wanted to try to OBE, hopefully he did. But, it took me about half an hour to induce to Sleep-Paralysis, and when I finally did, I began inducing OBEs.

My first one, resulted in me just hitting the floor and then returning to my body almost immediately because my side felt really funny (really ticklish) when I touched down. Remembering my previous post about inducing multiple OBEs, I went right into another one. (There was a bag of chips by the side of my bed, maybe that did it?)

My second one, I managed to stand up in my room, and then I woke up... grr... This etheric projection stuff is really hard, so I decided to try and Astral Project my next attempt.

My third attempt, started out pretty much the same, except I kind of skipped the landing on the floor being blinded part. I pretty much knew I was still in the etheric plane, and I wanted into the Astral, I just wanted. So I closed my eyes and tried to increases my frequency (just thought about it, I don't know if it worked or not). So I'm standing in room, and I wanted to go outside. So I decided to go through the window. It felt so weird to feel to go through it. I could feel myself flow through. Now, I was outside, the first thing I noticed was that I was freezing cold!? I knew it was chilly outside, but I was not at all expecting to be able to feel the temperature of my surroundings. Despite me being cold, I floated up and began to fly around. Was easy as cake. It was still pretty dark out, since it was early morning, so I began to look for entities, especially the negative ones, because my little brother is pretty afraid about them, and I'm also uneasy about them. I even to darker spots I could find, and did not find one thankfully Anyway, I was out flying around my street for a while, was a fun experience. My vision wasn't as sharp I hoped, but it was sharp enough. Anything I looked at was clear.

But my main question is, do you feel temperature in your EP/APs?

Another weird thing, when starting getting up the last time, it looked like my covers fell off and hit the ground, but then I was laying down and the covers were on me.

My Improvements: easily moved around Astral Plane, and Flying (which has always plagued me, even in Lucid Dreams)

Hey all, I'm not Under 18, but I am 18 , from NJ, USA

What eventually brought me here? The search for what Sleep-Paralysis really was, and then when I found out what I could do with it, I decided to teach myself how to induce it at will in the morning.

Has anyone ever set up a video camera to record themselves before the intention of projecting? If anyone has, are there any noticeable movements of the physical body. Also... since cameras can sometimes capture orbs, maybe there's a chance that it could capture you will you project (as long as you project into the etheral plane). If I ever get a video camera, I might try something like this, but has anyone else tried?

Don't you worry.I'll make my 'real me' do what i want.

Except you'll probably be in a different state of mind then It will probably be like when you get wasted, except the other way around

so, if it is possible for blade5x to meet and communicate with his brother while being out of body, isnt this the same concept behind API, and shouldnt we have seen meetings and the such between APers there?

I don't much about API, except its similar concept to the Lucid Crossroads. But I specifically read in a few places, that during an Etheric Projection you could see other projectors, which is something that didn't seem to be mentioned for Astral Projecting. [Etheric and Astral are two different planes]

The highest plane the Atomic Plane(sp? wrong plane?), its description says that individuality is lost. So there's hope for you

Thanks for the replies. Cleared some things up.

Sorry about being confusing. I was being stupid there. I forgot to realize that even though the Etheric Plane is very similar to the physical, it is not the physical.

I'm still alittle confused though. I thought everything you see in the etheric plane was based of what was happening in the physical in real-time? But the part I am slightly confused on is, is it also like the Astral where you can create things that don't exist on the physical plane? (Such as the door opening).

Me and my little brother will be attempting to project at the same time and meet in the projection. The method we will use on saturday/sunday morning is induced sleep-paralysis (We both have a history of sleep-paralysis, actually occuring to us both quite often when we were very young). I have already learned how to induce it in the morning, he has yet to attempt. But when he does, and we both happen to have an OBE at the same time, I have a few questions. Since I have already projected into to etheral plane (that is our goal for now), and I know what its like, and future will projections will undoubtably make me a better a projector in the etheral atleast.

1. If my room is enclosed, I cannot leave it, because I cannot move through objects because my frequency is very close to that of the physical... however. If I use though to try and get into his room, will that work?

2. If I do project into his room and find his etheral body laying on the floor blind barely able to move     Can I touch him without interrupting his OBE? Like grab his arm and pull him into a stand-up position?

3. If I accidently project into the Astral, will I still be able to see him? I know he wouldn't be able to see me, but is it possible to view lower frequency when at a higher one? Or do you have to lower yourself to that frequency?

Well, I somehow slipped out of SP this morning the wrong way (fell asleep), and had a dream. I remember though, at some point I thought I was still laying in bed (a whole dream already went by pretty much). So I'm back in my body, but it doesn't feel like it, it doesn't feel sleep-paralysis, so I was still dreaming. Then I think I want to project and it happens, it feels nothing like I felt like yesterday. I just land on the floor, my vision is blurry, I keep yelling "Clarity, More Clear!" until I can finally see pretty clearly. I had difficulty moving again. Couldn't even stand up for a while. My room is partially part, but there's a lot wrong with it, atleast a good section of it was how it looked like 5 years ago. Also my room had a pink/yellow hue to it (like the green matrix hue), because it was really early morning in my projection (wasn't in real life). I started talking to an entity who looked a mime and was doing push-ups on my desk... lol... but it was ignoring me, I didn't even notice I was talking to it, thought I was talking to someone else even though I didn't see them...

Eh, this was nothing like the Etheric Projection I had yesterday. Can anyone explain the differences in how each one feels. I was so much more aware that I was projecting while in the etheric projection and it felt real. Today this felt dream-like. Maybe it was just a dream.

Reason I'm asking this is because when I induce SP, usually when I come out of it, if I start going back to sleep, I can feel it coming on again uncontrollably, and the only for me to stop it from re-occuring is to get up, or stay awake for some time. If I could project, wake up, fall into sp, and project again, that'd be great.

Anyone do this?

[sleep-paralysis]

lol, i love the bit about looking like some retarded entity, congratulations on your experiance man, could you describe your technique for inducing sleep paralysis in a bit more detail please, heres to plenty more happy APing in the future!

Ok, what happened to me there was not "Astral Projection", instead it was "Etheral Projection" and that explains the difficulty I was having there. But its still a must experience and I will continue to do this until I am sufficient in moving around the Etheral Plane and experiencing it before I conciously attempt Astral Projections. (Because Etheral is one level below Astral, I'll look at it as like... Level 1, and that must be passed before I can move onto Level 2, the Lower Astral )

But this is my method.

Go to sleep, and set your alarm clock so you wake up about 5-6 hours later. When you wake, go back to sleep. Now, hopefully you'll have one or two dream cycles, and you'll wake up again in 1-2 hours. Usually, you should wake up right inbetween REM cycles, so this is the perfect to induce sleep-paralysis. Go to sleep like you normally would, but just stay aware of what you are doing and what your goal is. Don't let thoughts distract you to much. It's ok to have thoughts, but just stay aware of what's going on. You should at some point feel as if your body just "fell into itself" which is the best I could describe the onset of sleep-paralysis as (may take some practice, if you fail, just go back to sleep, and try again the next time you wake, if you do this right, you can get a few attempts in the morning between your REM cycles). Once your in sleep-paralysis, think about how you want to have an OBE, but by the then you should have already started to feel vibes. Your first time ever, you may have vibes that are very intense, so if they are to intense, you can always back out and try again the next day. It took me about 5 episodes of sleep-paralysis for me to get used to the vibes for me to be able to achieve an OBE. Anyway, when the vibes get pretty strong and you begin to hear a rushing-like noise, try to feel yourself floating. If that doesn't work, try the roll-over method. Just try and make yourself feel like what it would feel like if you were to begin rolling over toward the edge of your bed. At the same, try to visualize yourself rolling. What I did is what pictured a body (I don't know if it was mine, don't remember) from the top view, and picturing rolling in the direction in which I was attempted to roll. Then everything pretty much happened on its own. Separation can be pretty intense, but at the same time so amazing. You can really feel yourself separating. I hope this helps, and  good luck.

Hopefully I won't look like an idiot next time walking around in wobbly circles while crouched really low, with my arms extended clapping off beat while grinning.