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Touche.

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Good point. It's definately a possibilty that the idea of a 'New World Order' is simply something that has arisen in the collective psyche as a step toward awakening ourselves to our destructive cultural trends.

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Unknowable perhaps? 

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thanks for the advice i think ill take it and not try for a couple days

You posted this while I was typing the other one. Try every day! Don't let failure slow you down, success is just around the corner.

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Also i heard that the younger you are the harder it is to leave something to do with the body still having a tight hold on the astral body and weakening as we get older...is that true?

There's a lot of unwarranted speculation on the 'difficulty' of projection when you're younger and sometimes physically ill. I wouldn't be overly concerned with them. My first projection was spontaneous. I had no knowledge of the world of astral projection, I'd never even heard of it. I was 17 when this happened.

When talking in terms of difficulty, we're really just speaking of the individuals perception of the work they need to do to achieve something successfully. Sometimes you make mistakes and you need to go back and reexamine what you've done to find what you must alter on your next attempt. When we say "It gets easier with time", we're really talking in terms learning from your mistakes and growing for the next attempt, not so much a linear timeline of projection difficulty. I've never heard of a case where someone with complete determination and hard work has taken a decade to have a conscious OBE.  In the initial stages there's a lot of problems with frustration. These are normal.

In relation to your concerns with your mobility while you are projecting,  I'd echo what CFTraveler said. It could be a matter of energy, it could be a matter of 'silver cord'. I don't believe in this personally but it might be an alternative.

I'd recommend having a look at some NEW methods for a while and also focus on holding a trance state without trying to project initially.

Happy travelling

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You have to be smart about figuring out what is what.  Who is really in control.  The answers might shock you.  The answers probably will make you say out loud..."NO WAY".

I think this 'New world Order' business is real. I've watched a lot of documentries and read some books on the topic and intertwined it with some social theory. It's definately a candidate for explanation of world events. However, I think the most terrifying part is the reality that NO ONE is in control, not even the Illuminati/Masons etc. They are [/i]attempting[/i] to control society and have done a pretty good job so far.

When will the threshold of rebellion be breached in the collective consciousness? At the moment most people are very naive about what's going on in the world. People don't care about things unless it affects them in their living room. As horrible as that sounds, and with all the good that is going on in the world I unfortunately believe that last statement to have some merit.

Most people I've spoken to about the issue shrug it off as some political issue. I know longer see it as a matter of politics, it's a matter of ethics. What's the point of a political system that betrays the very moral foundation it was built upon? (Constitution). I'm not an American but I like the constitution.

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Mark614,

What images did you see that were disturbing?

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Some people are afraid of change.

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Well most energy imbalances in kundalini are chakra related. Buddhism is generally seen as a 'way of life', so the chakra and energy work is generally not emphasised highly in Buddhism. I read a book called "Buddhism Plain and Simple" by Steve Hagen, a Buddhist monk. There wasn't a single mention of either chakra's or energy systems.

Coming back to my original thought (chakra related), a lot of chakra problems are a product of a psychological difficulty accepting or 'flowing' with reality in the individual. Buddhism really focuses on accepting reality and seeing things in a different light. They sidestep a lot of chakra difficulties so you may not here it a lot.

How often do you hear it in Hinduism?

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I think it's better to focus on the idea of the API rather than a specific location. Seeings how it is non-existent in a physical reality, and it's hard to give directions in the astral ("Sub-level 1 then take a left... no your other left!").

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'Agnostic' comes to mind.

"a person who holds that the existence of the ultimate cause, as God, and the essential nature of things are unknown and unknowable, or that human knowledge is limited to experience. " sourced from http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/agnostic

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Your stuff's pretty cool SpeaK

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Well that's what a lot of the EVP stuff is. It's similar to staring at the clouds in the sky and viewing them as a dog or perhaps a clown for example. It's having a conclusion and then working backwards to justify that conclusion. Not the best way to establish objectivity.

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Looks like something on the camera to me. There's not a whole lot of convincing evidence when it comes to ghosts.

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I think one of the greatest hindrances is fear. Fear of the unknown.

I put fear and love on the same continuum. Fear being a matter of no understanding and love being a matter of complete understanding. This is how a Buddhist can still love at times of war, he understands what's going on. It goes against the conventional notion of love simply being 'the best feeling you can have', which I think is often misleading and incomplete. Sometimes we can argue with our loved ones and not feel so good. The old definition doesn't seem flexible enough.

It comes down really to how naive we are when we speak, ignoring the meaning of our words. Think about how children at school speak when they find someone they are attracted to at school. They say things like "I like you", "I like him/her" etc. Well 'like' is a word used to describe similarities, so they are really saying "I'm similar to you". They reflect themselves off the other and find an element that is similar to them. When children say "I love you", that's just saying "I really like you" or "I am really similar to you". This misconception persists into adulthood and without examination will remain the same. So I go to see love as a matter of understanding of the similarities between two entities, rather than the emphasis on the differences creating misunderstandings (fear).

I'm not proposing this as a final truth, just a useful metaphor I use to explain the situation to myself. I think that love and fear share a yin-yang relationship.

Happy Travelling

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Initially making this thread I had in mind people would mention songs I hadn't heard so I could run off and listen to them.

I'll have to check them out.

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Whoa... you just scared me a little there Ebodied Words. First talking about goats and now extraterrestial love.

I wouldn't say it solves all the mystery with the pyramids. It seems more of an alterntaive to the stones being cut by aliens than a complete explanation. How does it explain the perfect 90 degree or straight cuts of the stones? I'm not one way or the other with the pyramids. I like to dabble in the theories, but I prefer the mystery until something rock solid comes out.

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My first experience of an OBE happened spontaneously. I remember walking out into the backyard the same morning and feeling 'in love' with my backyard. Well it wasn't really with anything in particular I just understood very deeply and felt 'at one'. It only lasted a few seconds and at the time I understood. "Much seeking is done after the experience because in the experience you have all the answers".

I brought it up after a while to a mate and he informed me it was known as "astral projection", he wasn't a hardcore spiritualist but he knew the terminology. Never projected himself. Anyway there was only one person who I though might have any idea about the subject in depth. She was an old friend of my mums but they hadn't spoken after a fallout for at least 18 months. I was sitting on the couch thinking about how I would bring it up to mum and she rang 'out of the blue'. So began my journey inward.

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Well some people haven't experienced it yet so they don't believe. That's fair enough. I'm not sure whether it was AP/OBE'S/RV that made me swing to a spiritual persecutive, but I'm not in agreement with people who use science all the time as a compas through the unknown. Sometimes you have to go with your gut, no matter what perspective you take.

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I wouldn't worry about your 'style' of writing. I'm sure we're always looking for something different around here. Neither would I worry about applying what I am saying to yourself if you don't feel it necessary, you seem to have your own spiritual development under control IMO.

I was merely remarking upon the content lost in communication through speaking two different languages. I'm wondering how rationalists and spiritualists can communicate if they both disagree with how each other speaks. Perhaps it's not best to get linguistically tangled in either side.

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Good point.

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I looked into Nibiru recently. I'm not particularly interested in the 'Reptilian theory' but it's probably best if I generally educate myself in the area. Has anyone got any sites on the science of Nibiru, more from perhaps NASA or some recognised space intelligence agency? Preferably free from the enslavement theories to offer a different perspective.

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HAHAHA!

I missed that.

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I am asking a series of questions for you to help others understand what it is you are trying to convey in correlation with what was written in my messages.

Thanks for the map laid out so me and other people can undertsand each other. Where would we be without you? That's the arrogance I'm talking about. That's the exact thing that turns people off. The attitude 'I know more than you'. That's my point.

The way anyone becomes 'enlightened' is through introspection. Self-reflection. What I'm saying is sometimes spiritual language is not the best way to start someone on that journey. ('Starting the engine'). Sometimes it doesn't dare people to grow, it scares them away from growth. At present, I don't see it as the best way to convey 'our' message to the everyday person.

You say 'many' start out at step 2, are you implying this is what I am doing?

No. We're speaking in an 'open forum'. This is an idea being presented to everyone. It was an idea that I raised because of a recent thread on not being able to talk to loved ones about spiritual issues. It came to mind during my post so I just let it run. I was actually looking at branching it into language but I might start another thread on that.

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It could be you intuition tuning in. There is another thread like this that started recently that you might want to have a look at.

http://www.astralpulse.com/forums/welcome_to_psychic_and_paranormal/how_do_u_explain_this-t27004.0.html

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