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My first OBE's were related to events that I saw as alien abduction. I now begin to see that thoose events are what put me on the path to spiritual awakening. The true motives and means behind these entities and their capabilities are still beyond me, but I think it is going to take some trust on both species parts in order to co-exist peacefully.

Oh hell yes.

I'll be a senior in college, probablt graduating about that time.

I now where me senior trip is.

I typically just focus intently on something, like the back of my eyelids or the sensations of my body. For some reason it clears thought extremly well for me.

Although it doesn't sound like an astral projection to me, I began projecting due to similar experinces. I used to wake up paralyzed I would immediatly become fearful and an experince that many consider an Alien Abduction would occur. Not fun, obviously. Then, I decided one day not to be afraid, and the most glorious and beautiful thing happened. I had an OBE. I remember floating near my ceiling just basking in the glory of the universe... I can't begin to describe it.

Your fear atracts things that are bad. When one overcomes their fear and realizes that nothing can harm oneself unless one lets it harm oneslef, and then one becomes free. If you feel that paralyzed thing, don't fight, just let things take their course and learn from the experience. I've projected twice since then, and its been amazing.

Welcome...

Trying before I go to bed typically puts me to sleep, however, it increases the odds of doing it later in the night. Of course, projecting is different for everyone, what works for me may not work for you. I've done it twice since I've first started, and it's amazing. If you wake up in the middle of sleep, thats a great time to try it, just don't be afraid. As soon as I did, things just happend.

Great to have you Richard.

Perhaps to continue the political undertones, the "oil" like substances... just a thought...

Nothing is primia facie, nothing is done without meaning, even if we do not realize it.

Meh, not much. Listening to some Binarual beats to see if the affect me while I am not meditating... you?

Next time I go OBE, I'll make sure to remeber that. I can't wait to do it again!

I remember getting out, I felt my feet, then legs, then torso, and everything except my head. Everythin was floating straight up while me head was still inside, must've been fairly comical. I was intresting to feel my physical body at the same time as I felt my astral one...

I used to rope method, pulled out, then feel to the floor, headfirst...

It was awesome...

KK, thanks for the info.

Josh, from San Bernidino California... love to see some nature fans here as well. I love it outside too (pun intended). Not only out in nature, but outside myself... Pretty much amazing...

The people on these forums are probably the nicest and most understanding human beings ever. Thanks guys for being so awesome and teaching me so much.

Thanks a ton, clears up alot of questions I've been having... I geuss I'll be making  a run to Barns and Noble's after I get paid. Any advice on moving past the RTZ?

I woke up, and thought "hey this would be an awesome time to try OBE" the next thing I know I "feel" myself separate... it was so awesome... I couldn't move or see well, it was almost dreamlike.. and I walked out of my door. The kitchen lights were on, yet I knew they shouldn't be. Understanding that this was OBE and that my subjective personality can overlay dreams, this didn't really bug me. I decided to float through my roof... and I watched as drywall, then wood, then past the fiberglass insulation that lines my attic passed by me like a cross section... again, this was really, really cool. Then I decided I wanted to visit the moon... and instantly I was in space and could see the earth below, yet (this was probably a dream overlay) there was a massive yellow space station thing, shaped like a huge, hollow, cylinder... I clarified my request by saying... THE MOON, and instantly I was there, if but for a second... I think it was yellow for some reason. Then I went someplace else, my memory is real hazy, and finally I decided to visit my girlfriend. I arrived and all I could see was her in her bed, yet it wasn't very clear. A voice said "try and find her..." so I did. Next thing I remember I had her head in my arms and was running my hand across her head. she asked my who I was, in thought, and I told her it was me, she said where was I, and I told her that i was right there, yet elsewhere at the same time. she seemed confused (she seemed like she was still asleep and dreaming), then I essentially showed her in thought what I meant. 

The whole time, it felt like someone was their, watching me and protecting me, in fact I think they helped pull me out...

Yet it was so dreamlike, and I have so many gaps in memory and my vision sucked... Yet it was more than a dream. I could move better and remembered the experience better as well.... The whole experince was no longer than a minute.

Later, while watching I saw that the moon had taken the orange tint that occasionaly does... I'm trying to rember why... well anyways, I asked her today if she had any weird dreams, but she said she doesn't remember....

So, was this a dream, or OBE?

Han, you are amazing.

Because of you, last night I had my first OBE experince that I could control....

It was so awe-inspiring.

Of course, it only leads to more questions, but at least I'm a little bit closer ot understanding than I was before.

Thanks, Jelal

Last night I had a similar experience... I woke up, and thought "hey this would be an awesome time to try OBE" the next thing I know I "feel" myself separate... it was so awesome... I couldn't move or see well, it was almost dreamlike.. and I walked out of my door. The kitchen lights were on, yet I knew they shouldn't be. Understanding that this was OBE and that my subjective personality can overly dreams, this didn't really bug me. I decided to float through my roof... and I watched as drywall, then wood, then past the fiberglass insulation that lines my attic passed by me like a cross section... again, this was really, really cool. Then I decided I wanted to visit the moon... and instantly I was in space and could see the earth below, yet (this was probably a dream overlay) there was a massive yellow space station thing, shaped like a huge, hollow, cylinder... I clarified my request by saying... THE MOON, and instantly I was there, if but for a second... I think it was yellow for some reason. Then I went someplace else, my memory is real hazy, and finally I decided to visit my girlfriend. I arrived and all I could see was her in her bed, yet it wasn't very clear. A voice said "try and find her..." so I did. Next thing I remember I had her head in my arms and was running my hand across her head. she asked my who I was, in thought, and I told her it was me, she said where was I, and I told her that i was right there, yet elsewhere at the same time. she seemed confused (she seemed like she was still asleep and dreaming), then I essentially showed her in thought what I meant. 

The whole time, it felt like someone was their, watching me and protecting me, in fact I think they helped pull me out...

Yet it was so dreamlike, and I have so many gaps in memory and my vision sucked... Yet it was more than a dream. I could move better and remembered the experience better as well....

Thoughts?

Jelal..

I have noticed that I don't see anything, just haze and I feel a presence. I noticed that when I stopped fighting, that not only were the experinces perhaps the most amazing thing that I have ever felt/experinced, but that they have essentially stopped. Now that I understand that they are not something to fear, perhaps I will start asking for more "help".

I never really was one for the mystical when I began having "experiences." Some people would call it alien abduction, others call them astral entities, whatever they are, it doesn't matter. I would awaken to a paralyzed, immediately become fearful because I knew what was about to happen, and suddenly I was seized by hands. I would try to fight, but I was to weak. It sometimes felt like a needle was being pierced through my right side and into my liver. Occasionally I would have other, more stereotypical experiences, but those are irrelevant. I found that sometimes If I simply woke up into the paralyzed state, I would have an OBE. It felt like something pulled me out and unveiled the whole universe unto me. It was so glorious that I have almost become obsessed trying to "go back." Back then I didn't know about astral projection and had no idea what was going on.

And still I'm pretty confused. What "pulled me out"? What were those things that hurt me so bad?

I have been recently deeply meditating and am getting close to astral projecting myself, without any "outside help."

But I still don't get it.

This post is somewhat off topic, but If anyone has any insight or similar experiences, I'd be much obliged.