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My experience is quite the opposite.  Ever since I started doing AP exercises, I have become intolerant to alcohol.  One sip and I feel ill, exactly like poison.  Nowadays I can drink cocktails or some other diluted drinks but still have problem with beer or wine.  It's such a shame because I really enjoyed having wine with a good hearty meal!

hiya, that sounds wonderful.  I understand our living places look different when seen from the astral plane.  I was once learning to project at a school and for a few seconds I projected to my bedroom accompanied by a helper.  It was so beautiful I was convinced it wasn't my bedroom.  But it was.  So that's just to confirm to you that what you saw was your own house!

Thanks guys.  Some really good advice.  Furix, I completely understand what you mean.  I will definitely try it out.

Cheers
venus

hey eon, you've come to the right place!  Nothing is better than having your own experience.  It's great that you have already tried a few things which have triggered your interest.  Continue to learn by reading and discussing with others, and trying out a few techniques.  This forum and the internet in general are fantastic resources for related material.  It is important that you keep an open mind when you try these techniques because this universe gives you back what you expect.  If you expect to experience nothing out of the ordinary, that's exactly what you'll get.  Your thoughts, mindset and emotions decide what you experience in the physical dimension. 

What your friend claims to be able to do, are all possible.  Whether HE does them or not I don't know.  But at least he has sown a seed of interest in you, which has obviously started growing.  So, in fact, his work is done here!

look up this forum's book recommendations page and get yourself a good book - that will be a good start!

Good luck with your journey
Venus 

I have never been so determined to project as I am now.  I have become ever so sensitive to energy that I start vibrating as soon as I start AP exercises.  But I have a big problem with sleep. 

I don't want to spend lots of money on CDs and don't really trust those with subliminal messages in them anyway.  There must be a simple method to stay awake (because I am so close most of the time).  Experiences APers, please please can you share your knowledge?

Thanks ever so much.

A Frustrated Venus

Read books and go to classes if you can.  Then follow the recommended techniques and have your own experience.  I think there are book recommendations on this forum.  You can do it.

Organised religions are ways to keep order and have control over people. In the olden days, religious institutions had more authority than the government - sometimes they were one and the same.

I think Islam is the most pronounced and typical example of this. It systematically and matter-of-factly places men as superior to women.  People are so brainwashed and conditioned that they involuntarily buy into this system - completely unaware that they are being manipulated.  So much so that the women would tell you they have chosen to cover themselves and that they have all the freedom they want - which is exactly what the 'system' has consciously or subconsciously taught them to say.  (a bit like The Stepford Wives)

I know muslim women including new converts who have told me this.  However much I want to change them, I know I can't. Change comes from within - so when they are ready, in this life or the next, they will claim back their freedom and human rights.  I suppose we all have to go through phases...

Thank you so much everyone!  There's always great energy and teamwork in this place - I can always count on you!

Autumn, are you referring to the Akashic Records? Also known as the Hall of Records?

This is an astral library that contains records of every thought word and action that had ever occured on this planet.  You can google akashic records and read more.

There are also vocational schools in the astral plane where we learn about energy, creation, consciousness etc.  Read about my astral travel to an old school which I talked about on this forum.

http://www.astralpulse.com/forums/welcome_to_astral_experiences/how_can_i_locate_and_visit_a_physical_place-t27573.0.html;msg228273#msg228273

here's a picture of the college

http://www.astralpulse.com/forums/welcome_to_astral_experiences/have_you_seen_this_building_in_your_astral_travels-t27612.0.html;msg228493#msg228493

best wishes
Venus

[two types]

wow! so is it common to find people projecting with negative intentions? and negative energys? i wish there was somehow a set of rules when projecting, or limitations for any kind of negative lol

Sorry if I wasn't clear.  What I meant was there are two types of human consciousnesses in the astral plane. Those who have died and those who are projected. 

Some of those who have passed away are still on earth because they are in denial (that they're dead), some don't know it yet, some need help to move on and yet some refuse to leave earth because of attachment to something or someone. 

Those who are projected have plenty to discover and be excited about - they would certainly not be interested in manipulation of others.  When people get to that stage, it's because they have reached an advanced stage in their personal development.

Unlike Synergy, I do believe that we actually leave our bodies during OBE - though not entirely.  I believe that we are able to divide our energies in different places and amounts.  In my experience, when I go OOB, I always have some awareness in my body, sometimes strongly and other times mildly, so it's like being in two places at the same time.  During one particular OBE, I actually divided my consciousness into 3.  I had awareness of my body and had two other parts of me in the astral plane.

Anyways, good luck in your astral journey. 

best wishes
Venus

thanks old dood.

anyone else?

could well be clairvoyance.  I would advise you to avoid making judgements or having any expectations, instead, breath deeply, clear your mind and just watch and see what happens.  Become the observer, take your time, then when you come out of your meditation, write it down and anaylse it.

I've had so many amazing visions during meditations, and they all start with flashes of images.

You're obviously developing your psychic abilities.  Well done!

Stooky I agree with you totally.

Aquarius - I'd like to add to what Stooky said.  You know already that every action begins with a thought.  Specifically, Thought + Emotion = Action.  Some thoughts never get actioned on because there just isn't enough emotion invested in them. 

Incidentally I am reading R Monroe's book The Ultimate Journey.  He describes an area in the astral plane where there is a collection of unmanifested human thoughts.  I find this fascinating.  I also read an article sometime ago which describes somebody's OBE to such a place where he saw his own thoughts in formation.

This tells me that:
1. be careful what you think because "every thought is a prayer"
2. thoughts are real - to manifest them, we need to be passionate enough about them
3. by their nature, thoughts travel like radio waves.  This means we are constantly in contact other people's thoughts. What this means is that you could easily have other people's thoughts in your mind, and others could have yours.  What happens if it's a half-formed thought in the astral plane?  Is it possible to action on it?  Is this how evolution of a species occurs, i.e. communication though thought without even being consciously aware of it (meme)?  If we knew how it works, would we send positive thoughts all the time?

Sorry going off topic now. 

just found my old post - this was my experience

http://www.astralpulse.com/forums/welcome_to_astral_experiences/made_it_out_but_had_to_go_back_in-t27769.0.html;msg229438#msg229438

Hi all

I have a friend who is interested in OBEs - he has an open mind but the other day he asked me "how do you know you weren't dreaming?".  I couldn't say much at the time because we were having lunch in a crowded place; but I would like to explain it to him properly at some point.

If you were me, how would you explain it to him?

All ideas welcome!

Venus 

I totally agree with Innervoyage.  But remember there are discarnate beings walking the earth as well as projected people, who may not have positive intentions. 

But that is no cause for concern.  From what I learned, our bodies are protected by energy/psychic fields when OOB which won't allow any other consciousness to enter.  Plus a living person's consciousness is always connected to his/her body with a silver cord - any danger/noise/thought about your body - you are immediately and involuntarily pulled back into your body.

Shakespeare said:

All the world's a stage,
And all the men and women merely players:
They have their exits and their entrances;
And one man in his time plays many parts,
His acts being seven ages.

And he was spot on.  I believe we are all consciousnesses using physicality for the purpose of evolution. Our main goal is to "wake up" and discover our real sevles.  The advantage of this system is that we learn about ourselves little by little (through every emotion, incarnation etc).  The downside is that the physical world can be so enticing that we forget our main purpose and immerse ourselves into all things physical.

In a way, as Shakespeare said, it is a play we come here to act out.  Sometimes when things get rough, I tell myself this is a f***ing illusion anyway, why should I care so much! That's my confession. lol

I like reading other people's experiences. 

I once saw my hands which looked exactly like my physical hands.  Once I consciously filled my energy in a white sphere before entering a tunnel to fly in a lightening speed.  At the beginning of a recent OBE I opened my astral eyes which felt exactly like my physical.  Most times though I don't see my astral body or my silver cord.  Wish I could though.

Very interesting Envix.  Thanks for sharing.  I find it fascinating just how real it is on the astral plane.  Opening my astral eyes was as real as anything.  Glad you can relate to this!!

Thanks guys.  I appreciate your help.

Regarding your frequency of projecting -- have you tried hemisync tapes or a brainwave generator ? About one month ago I purchased a hemisync CD (From Monroe Products (TMI)). Even without headphones I have had 3 OBEs in 3 weeks whereas before listening to that CD my last projection was back in March. That could be only coincidence but probably not.

Grey

Brilliant.  Thanks for the tip Grey. I'm gonna get myself a hemisync CD asap.  I just luuuurve being OOB that I would try anything to get there - with the exception of drugs of course.  I would be grateful for any other good tips.

embodied, I am quite the opposite.  Whenever I have OBE, I always seem to be flying.  For once I want to consciously walk out of my body and walk around my home. 

toxic-free diet could make you a better filter for higher information and help you progress in meditations and/or OBEs

OBE inducing drugs are certainly NOT recommended.  I have been to a consciousness development school, and from what I learned there, apparently it is possible to have OBEs using drugs but you will attract consciousnesses with similar energy ie psychotic post mortem which are spirits who have passed on with drugs addictions, and will still get a kick by attaching themselves to humans with similar interest.

Obviously it's your choice.

hey aptryer

I don't know why people place so much importance on time. Two days or two years, it doesn't matter.  If you know the technique, have the determination, and get rid of the fear, you can do it in two days or less.

You are on the right track, and please don't let fear hold you back.  Nothing bad will happen to you.  You will leave your body, have an amazing experience, and come back to your body.  That's all.  Keep up the exercises.

venus 

Sounds like an OBE to me. If you had strong emotions, colours were vivid, and you were making decisions, then it certainly was an OBE.  But only you know how realistic it all was.

venus