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i found an old book called astral travel by gavin and yvonne frost in a local book store its written very different than a lot of other books ive read and some parts i really found fresh and helpful but they come from a wiccan background and there is a whole section on placing protective wards on the floor and incantations to avoid possession
i didnt buy into it at all and it did kill some of there credibility of some of the other interesting stuff in the book for me personally
negative stuff like that dosn't help stop the spread of people thinking its dangerous

thanks for that encouragement and feedback EscapeVelocity
that is exactly what i needed to hear right now
ive had quite a few similar projections in the past where ive always been left with the feeling that i was more on the dream side in the end
knowing now that this isnt a failure and that ive been in the right place all these years and its just a matter of improving on my awareness is a big encouragement

i have kept a physical journal for quite a few years of all my dreams lucid moments and oob attempts
ive been interested in astral projection sinse i was a boy and reading arthur c clarke books on mysteries and enigmas
my mum always told me my uncle could do it witch made me want to do it too

in the 90s i was experimenting with consciousness and altered states as im sure alot of others were at this time period 
i had some real break through moments lucid dreaming around then and started buying more books on how to have them and about thon i bought out of body experiences how to have them and what to expect by robert peterson
from then until now ive had a lot of odd sensations and what i saw as good progress but never that ureka moment

found these forums a few years ago and pop in from time to time for a read and maby the odd post
so much useful stuff here
also this year ive typed all my journals up into blog form so i have a digital copy as back up https://fowlskins.wordpress.com/

i will be 40 next year and i really want to crack it once and for all i think my approch has always been very casual i need to go at it full on for a bit

just read xanth's post in another thread with this link

http://www.unlimitedboundaries.ca/2012/07/22/labeling-experiences-of-the-non-physical/

time to stop labeling and just enjoy playing with awareness 

well that makes perfect sense to me
but it does mean that ive been striving to achive something that i have already managed on many occasions that ive put down as a failure as it felt to much like a dream
now i can turn my attention to honeing the experience rather than felling like im just tricking myself at the last hurdle 

so with oobe its just a projection where you lucidly see your self out of body
its all very difficult to pigeon hole all these names for what is essentially a different form of the same experience

like when people say its possible to have a oobe or astral project from a lucid dream does that mean that its just possible to turn the attention back to your body before entering another lucid dream then as that seems a pretty pointless step if your already lucid

i was awoken by my daughter at around 5.00 am for a feed after i put her back down she was unsettled until about 6.00 i thought to my self this would be ideal conditions for lucid dreaming, i got comfy and focused my attention on staying as conscious as possible as i drifted off
i became lucid at least two times through out the dream but the main point i remember was looking at he ground as i was in a graveyard and saying "vivid now" and watching the grass become greener this made me become totally lucid and i spent quite a while taking in the beauty of the surroundings examining tombstones and arches made in the hedgerows i refrained from flying this time as i was enjoying exploring the scene
at some point my attention was back at my body and i felt the unmistakable feeling of vibrations accompanied by a floating sensation i began to rise up towards the ceiling but could not see i got over exited and it woke me up
i remained still and drifted back into and semi conscious state again the vibrations returned and this time they were accompanied by a bright light pouring into my vision i had a slight spike of fear/dread as i thought about entity's but i just ignored the feeling and turned my attention to getting out of body i could see one of my arms in front of me as see through but i still couldn't get out i kept thinking outside but i think i awoke again
the third time the vibrations happened after quite a gap i felt the floating sensation again and i decided after lifting for a bit that i would try to roll out of my body as i rolled there was a disorientating sensation and when i looked back at the bed there was no one in it i was in my room and i went over to the wall to try to push my hand through it but when i put my hand on the wall my fingers went all wiggly like little tentacles
i tried to walk through a wall but just ended up back in another lucid dream about trying to get out of the room by running at walls eventually i found a secret door that i opened that lead to an alternative reality there was a woman opposite me doing the same movements as me from another door across an expanse of electronic chips it was almost like it was an alternative me and we were both looking in to a kind of back stage area of reality that your not supposed to see

i climbed in through the door and tiptoed across the circuit board using transistors as stepping stones , then i was awoken again by her at 8.00 am
this felt to me like the closest i have come to actual exit to date but still feels like i got sucked in to a dream again,

can this be defined as an astral projection or was it a lucid dream ?

welcome from a sporadic visitor to the pulse 

loved this post especially the references to all the cultural names around the world for the hag/incubus succubus sensations 

nice post
my plan for 2015 is to get back to expanding my consciousness
ive started up my dream journals again to start lucid dreaming as much as possible
ive even wrote up all my old journals to wordpress so i have a online digital copy that is alot tidier than my scrawl of handwriting 
i plan to restart attempts at OBE as well still never had that eureka moment even though plenty of near misses over the years

so i will definitely be making a few visits back to the astral pulse its been quite a while since i visited the site and its reat to see its still active
good luck scotthtaylor and to everyone else thats here happy new year all look forward to reading your experiences and advice

you can find my dream journal here in this post if anyone is interested

http://www.astralpulse.com/forums/welcome_to_dreams/my_dream_journals_on_wordpress-t45448.0.html

ive recently copied all my old dream journals to a online blog so i have a digital copy

you can find them here if anyone is interested

https://fowlskins.wordpress.com/

i like to indulge in conscious experiments and things of that ilk
one of my reoccurring pastimes is lucid dreaming
ive been able to do it from a kid and really started getting into it in my teenage years training myself to do it more often
i have kept a dream journal for quite a few years recently going through phases of updating it religiously and getting lazy with it

ok so here is the main story a while ago i watched a vid on youtube to do with lucid dreaming that i thought would be fun for me to try myself
it involved looking for your dream item in a lucid dream and once finding it trying to find it in real life so it kinda becomes a dream totem that links to waking and dream states
so after a couple of times failing to remember to do this in a lucid dream i finally remembered and asked myself to find my dream item while i was lucid
i rooted around in a old metal biscuit tin and alot of the things i put my hands on didn't feel right but eventually i held a small white clay pipe witch was either shorter than normal or broken
i awakened that morning and then wrote down all the details of the dream in my journal

i then went to work searching for the pipe in real life i didnt want to just look on ebay and buy something that resembled it i wanted it to kind of have a bit of significance i looked in bric a brac shops ,i looked in hippy shops around glastonbury i searched endless markets and curio shops in thailand that were full of old dusty opium pipe but none felt right

this Christmas i played an annual game of escape from colditz a board game that me and a group of friends have been playing for years as a christmas tradition we played this year in an old derelict methodist church that my friend is working in we chose this venue so that we could be as rowdy as we liked without tinkling off any of our spouses
the game takes a long time and after 8 hours of drinking and playing the game it was time to pack up and on packing up the board game right there by my left hand was the pipe it had been in the room with me all that time without noticing it

it had been dug up by my friends while at work and i told them the story and they let me have it as it ment more to me than any of them
when i got home i opened my journal to read the entry of when i dreamt of it to see what it said
it discribed it exactly as white clay pipe plain but slightly ornate and short or possibly broken and the best part was on seeing the date in my journal that i dreamt of it it happened on new years eve/morning witch was almost 1 year to the day that i found it short by 1 day
i placed it by my bed that night and had my first lucid dream of 2012

eat your heart out inception !!!

If it was dream then the best part is that all the wisdom is coming from your own subconscious
I think this is the cool thing about lucid dreaming everyone you interact with is just yourself

I took your advice about visualising quickly and the following weekend I was aware of the buzz again so I imedietly thought I'd go to the door as you suggested I was out but something felt wrong I looked back at the bed and it was empty
I then realised that I was just lucid dreaming and that I was playing out what I wanted to happen in the dream without being fully conscious
On waking the vibrations didn't seem real like I've had before
Has anyone else had there mind tricking them in this way

hi all
not posted here in ages but had a experience that made me want to post

ive been doing the night shift with my newly born son so ive been sleeping a couple of hours getting up for a hour then going back to sleep
i thought this was going to be ideal conditions for lucid dreaming
what i didnt expect to have was the onset of obe last night out of the blue

i remember becoming semi conscious and then thinking about projecting towards the celling as i did this the vibration came on real quick it resonated at a much higher pitch than ive had before and i was then aware of a floating sensation and i stayed calm and went with it i then remember getting aural hallucinations of people talking it was a bit freaky but i kept telling myself that it was all part of the exit process
then i could see small patches through my eyelids but i was having difficulty actualy getting out then i heard my son cry and it woke me up

this really felt like the closest ive ever come to getting oob and i remember being exited at the time thinking im going to finaly do it after all these years

any tips on the best way to get out if i make it this far again   

three or four times i have had intence vibrations and when they come i definitly know about it they usualy freak me out and i lose concentration
as of yet i have not managed to leave my body but the the next day after i have had vibrations i always feel like i have wasted them due to my sudden fear
but it just makes me more determined that the next i will try to realax through them
its a deep rooted fear of the unknown i want to do it but training my brain to let me is a little harder

last night i managed to get some very strong vibrations my head felt as if it was pushing and pulling against itself at the same time the more i focused the stronger they got until a wave of fear came over me and i freaked out
this has happened to me on several occasions and i think fear is my main factor in being able to project
does this sound like I'm getting close to exiting
i need to tell myself that this is what i have been trying to do for a very long time but i think my subconscious is holding me back

OK Ive studied lucid dreaming alot and have become completely conscious and in control on many occasions
the way i do this is by asking myself everyday in waking life "am i dreaming is this a dream" and then looking for triggers that i might be dreaming things like reading words as when dreaming words tend to move around and change to other things
i also look for out of the ordinary things like being with celebrity's or being on a pirate ship or being in a out of place setting like a desert
ask yourself this question everyday and 95% of the time the answer will be no I'm not dreaming i am awake
eventually your sub conscious will have got in the habit of asking this question and you will think it while in a dream and something will be out of the ordinary you will notice some kind of trigger
at this point when i start to become conscious that I'm dreaming i look down at the back of my hands and this triggers full consciousness and complete control to do what ever i like.
flying is usually the first thing i do it feels amazing and you wake up feeling exilerated
sometimes holding on to that consciosness can be quite difficult and the lucidity can begin to fade i have read that spinning around in your dream is a good way to regain lucidity i have only tryed this once it did work and lengthened the dream a little but then i awoke
hope you find some of these tips usefull

hello to everyone
im fowlskins im 32 from england

ive been interested in astral projection for a long time and have read several books on it
as far as i know i have never managed to do it properly although i have had some wierd things happen
while trying that leads me to think i have come close
i use a few different relaxation methods and have tryed lots of different visualisations to try to leave my body
the few things that made me think i was getting close was on one time after a long relaxation period a overwelming
vibration was pulsing in waves over my whole body i eventualy freaked out and stopped
another time and this one is harder to explain i was waking up in the morning after trying to astral project and felt that i was lying facing towards my door in my bedroom but when i opened my eyes i was facing the other way
it was almost as if my astral body had become loose and disorientated me
the final thing was again in my wakeing moments this time i was looking down on myself from the celing of my bedroom it felt very real but i still cant be sure if it was a lucid dream
i have trained myself to lucid dream and usualy i triger it myself while asleep by looking at the back of my hands when i start to begin to realise that im dreaming but this didnt feel like that at all

anyway ive started trying again as of late and i just found this website so ill keep you all informed and look forward to reading everyone elses experiences