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I see no need for me to condition anythen. I take cold showers to wake myself up and I work barehanded with frozen food for the past 2 months. I have gotten my hand frozen to the wall of the freezer and had to pour water on it to detach it, so I know what cold is. OW

I understand the way children behave, but at the same time, I get this nasty feeling that im babysitting this childs beleif system every time he posts a stupid topic. I feel compelled to tell him the truth and speak for the whole of this board, that not many people are willing to put up with a 5 year old liar. I can understand he wants to learn, but this kid doesn't even have a beleif system yet. He probably still fears monsters under the bed, and yet he is trying to leave his body to go out on random adventures around spirits,possibly demons? Where are this kids parents anyway?

I try to be nice, but at the same time, I feel the need to be blunt and speak the truth. You people keep swallowing the garbage he is putting on a board of REAL discussion, giving him reason to post MORE. He claims he had an OBE after 2 days of trying, which isn't impossible, but he is so vague that you KNOW he isn't being truthful. Get the mods to start modding this kids crap and Ill start being more polite, regardless that its not needed.

I bet several people haven't had their questions answered, not because we don't post, but because NOBODY CHECKS THE SECOND PAGES. He is posting in the wrong boards, multiple times, with the same topics, with the same questions, EVERY 5 ^%$#ing minutes! I love chatting and debating with the people on this board, but at the same time, I notice our board is starting to decline.

This board is becoming comparable to a childrens DBZ fantasy, not just from him, but from the younger ages in general. The only person here who even remotely has SOME understanding to Ki usage is auraseer, and he isn't all that understanding of it either, maybe confused, but thats not the point.

PLEASE MODS, START DOING WHAT NEEDS TO BE DONE. I understand the mods have lives of their own, but this is getting silly. Hell, I probably have a message or so that needs to be modded because I flamed the BSing portions of this board to a crisp. MOD ME, FINE, BUT GET RID OF THE CRAP THAT SHOULDN'T BE HERE.

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Seriously, being nice is one of my greater qualities, but I am not a big fan of children running under my feet, real life and here. Please try not to take any of my messages the wrong way, but I post as I see it is needed. I hope to reach an understanding with people sooner or later.


Good luck in the future to those that want/need i []

I FIGURED IT OUT! ACCORDING TO DOCTORS, YOUR INSANE!

Yeah, go figure hehe JK.


The voices can be astral creatures trying to A.talk to you, or b.trying to scare you, they can be real, which I doubt, or they can be hallucinated, as I get all the time. If you start to half listen to hallucinated voices, they will start to come in clearer,(at least for me) and you can make out what they are saying. I actually noticed if I started to create the voices in my head myself and focus on them, they tend to get louder and louder until I hear them as if the person was right next to me, and I can actually hear them with my own ears, not mentally.

If it were astral creatures, Id more assume they were trying to scare you. My personal experience when I was younger was when I was laying in bed, trying to fall asleep, when I hear "LETS CUT OFF HIS HEAD" in a real grungy and creepy type voice. This doesn't sound like a big deal, but keep in mind I was 5 at the time :-
Just ignore them or try and focus to keep yourself awake and make them advantegous

I can only think it was because your body started to dream, tired of waiting for you to come back. Doesn't mean anything really. Now worries

I love the mods and gold members here, stirring uo fun or tinkling me off, both extremely amusing, and makes my day brighter

After fiddling with the new system for a week or so, I started to recall dream s a LOT more often, and glancing at my hands helped me lucid dream a few times. My first concious OBE was awakened by a hand glance on saturday of my first week. My first concious INDUCED OBE was about 2 days later, and lasted for about 5 seconds before I collapsed from lack of energy.

I once met this biscuit that claimed he was possessed. He disappeared and was found looking a thousand times uglier and less delicous in a sewage treatment plant a day later.

It was scary....

I think your "friend" is A.Playing with you, and from the sounds of it, your gullibe, or B. Has a split personality, because rarely are people TRULY possessed.

There is also the possibly of spontaneous telekinetic subconcious use moving everything around. I have met people that claim they had to pay for crap in department stores that fell and broke when they were half way across the room and the only one in there. Its a VERY BIG LONG SHOT, but it is possible.


It could possibly be a ghost but something to try, leave a peice of tape on your door near the top , regardless that its locked. If the tape is broken the next morning, then someone came in and kicked the lock somehow.

Another idea is to use a small video camera in a drawer half open, slightly angled on a book to see if you can capture anyone/thing moving your stuff.

One guy found out his poltergiest was a raccoon that got in through his window that was left half cracked. But then again, can't be that because some heavy stuff was moved.

Meh, my 2cents, lata

ehhehe, SOS!

Anyways, I suggest Astral Dynamics by Robert Bruce(owner of this site ) because his book is the least confusing out of all that I have read. Monroe and a few other authors just seem to complicate it much more than it already is. Read it and practice is my best advice.

Good luck

Angry? Yes. Some people have racism,sexism, anti-semitism, but I have my prejudice against people who choose to be stupid. Wrong or right? According to Sinestro there is no right or wrong, so you have no bounds to judge me on this. HONESTLY? I think I should be lighter towards the ignorant.

Mirrior image? Maybe, in a karmatic sense, but hardly.
Liberal was my choice of word for someone that screws things up worse than they already are, rather than trying to fix them, as most liberals do.

Im sorry, but coming onto a board and preaching unbased arguments against a topic that the said board is based on shows how silly his arguments are. Im here defending what I beleive in out of boredom, so this is hardly comparable to what Sinestro is doing himself.

Sinestro, you are obviously a flaming liberal that looks for fights, and for that, I call you an idiot.

You have posted complete refutes to OBEs based on evidence that you have NOT submitted, and have NOT TESTED if you developed the evidence yourself. I can help you test your theories by physically killing you, but that is just the kind of thing you are looking for is it not? To make people angry? I can give you 1000 reasons why this world CANNOT EXIST, but I am not going to go into that, you are a waste of my time.

You go on a witch hunt to find a purpose for stupidity instead of trying to realise you yourself are wrong before you try and fix it.

I think you have some good arguments, but at the same time you have so many stupid and unbased ones that everyone here should ignore you for your undefined flaming. Chosen stupidity, as presented by you, is the one thing that corrupts this world worse that it already is. I make people ask themselves questions and make them question themselves, and they do not like me for it. YOU on the other hand project forward ideas and call everyone around you ignorant liars, wether you realise this or not.

I do not beleive in a god, am I right? No. Am I wrong? No.
IF WE ARE BOTH NOT RIGHT OR WRONG THEN WHY ARE YOU HERE SPOUTING GARBAGE THAT IS NOT CORRECT OR EVEN SUPPORTED!? You are floating in midair with stupidity above and ignorence below you. One of these days these two idiot traits you have are going to

A.Get you killed or severely screwed
or
B.Get someone else killed or severely screwed.

I leave you with this, QUESTION YOURSELF AND YOUR OWN HYPOCRISY BEFORE YOU EVEN DARE TO POST ANYTHING ANYWHERE EVER AGAIN. HUMANS MAKE MISTAKES, BUT YOU SIR, HAVE STUPIDITY AS YOUR CRUCH. Am I the only person here willing to kick that cruch from under you to prove you really can walk?

Now this next post here is to start/conjoin the current debates.



People naturally like to think they are right and those with pride will not accept anothers beleifs, correct or not. Since there is no such thing as a "correct beleif" then anyone who is a pushy person is either A.A person with extreme pride and extreme faith(which in my opinion is stupidity in action) or B. A person who is mistaken and submissive to the crowd and does as many wish.

I am a person with lesser pride and admit when I am wrong or do something stupid, no leaf clover understands what I mean.

In the situation of religous debate, I tend to accidentally make religous people angry with my constant responses that refute their beleifs completely. They get frustrated and eventually leave with a defeated pride and anger. I can only say, if you can't take the heat, get out of the kitchen.

A pushy child is one thing, they are naieve or ignorant because of their parents and should be taught otherwise. But I will say this, a child who does wrong and has their parents blamed for it is NOT guilt free themselves because all people are born with a sense of ethics. Retarded children are no exemption, argue as you want, but I know of plenty of children that have severe retardation and STILL know more than a large proportion of the higher intelligence crowd. Argue as you want for the claim that "retarded people cannot help it" trust me, they can. People look for alternatives to problems that must be faced with some kind of discipline. I do not beleive in beating a child and calling it spanking as some parents do, but I will use spankings as a persuasive action to ignorant/hard headed children.

As what was said relating to the religous groups and the right to free speech, there is a fine line that is usually crossed.
Voicing ones opinions to another is fine and one has a right to disagree with another, but when a person voices their rights in an imposing and obnoxious manner, they are stepping over their bounds. Its like a child trying to start a fight, talking big, in a "MY DAD CAN BEAT UP YOUR DAD" kind of sense. If one can try to convert me, they are asking for a counter-attack and possibly a reversal in conversion. Anyone that comes to me with their religon and pushes it on me, has what is coming to them, as do I. My fault for fighting with them and responding, I have the right to ignore them, but there is some cases where these persons can become so pushy, it no longer becomes a debate, but comparable to a knife fight. Your pride won't let you walk away, but you stay and fight, as with a knife fight, you can't run(pride) but must stand up for what you beleive in.

MORALLY, I beleive that trying to convert someone should be illeagle in all forms. Preaching your beleif is fine, HAVE A PARADE! I DON'T NEED A FLIER TRYING TO MAKE ME CONSIDER THE IMPOSSIBLE/INEVITABLE.
I use impossible and inevitable in the way that I did, because nobody can be sure as to wether something is NEVER going to happen, or is GOING to happen, as the fliers I get about the rapture.

ALL in all, it boils down to one thing, faith,pride, stupidity, and wisdom all wrapped in one tortilla of debate.

It was nice reading this topic, and I hope to hear some responses.[]

I know EXACTLY how that feels Tym, only my experience was with a goth/witch type of girl. She looked to be in her twenties, not ugly, not cute, dark clothes, black makeup, peircings, reading a witchcraft book. IN BARNES N NOBLE IN FACT. She and I exchanged glances at the exact same time and I froze like a rabbit. I literally COULD NOT MOVE, not from fear, not from interest, but as if every bit of energy in my body locked into place. This lasted about 5 seconds and she put the book down and left. She didn't pay any attention to me at all, just a quick glance, stopped,waited 5 seconds, dropped the book and took off. It was very disturbing at the time. Not frightening, but it made me think.

DragonBallZ was an interesting animen Ill give you that. Please take your childish BS elsewhere, its unbeleivable that people can post this trash on a legit forum of people looking for assistance or to make a statement. You on the other hand just lower the productivity of the people here. PLEASE do not post anything to this effect in the future.

STop fantasizing about your boyfriend you naughty girl hahahahha JK. Grats to hear it.

Thanks for the info mark, I appreciate it. As for that, I started dreaming and remembering it again recently and the reactions of movement have stopped also. Had an interesting dream involving upcoming school, and usually my dreams reflect something :-
Good luck to all

Nope. Ill tell you something though, try remembering MUSIC from the astral/dreams. The most beautiful music can be heard. I have 2 songs that I remember hearing, No real instrument can be described, just sad somber music. It is wonderful to meditate and bring that music back into my mind so I can hear it metaphysically, as I hear my own thoughts sometimes.

That or my santiy could be going...  hehehhe JK.

Thanks for the response beavis.

Anyone else have input on this? Its awkward...

Here is a trick I use when I wake up and know I had a dream but can't remember much or nothing of it. You know the feeling that you create for yourself when you try to remember something very vauge and long forgotten? Well try and generate that yourself, most likely you will, but don't try and use random ideas to clue yourself into the memory, let the memory come to you. Instead of trying to remember and then using ideas to possibly make myself remember, I just trust that I will remember eventually. Sit still for 5 or so minutes and usually it will just come back.

Congrats man. I tried meditation for a while LONG before I had ever heard of OBE. I eventually started reading and combined that into my meditations when I found time for them. A good method for energetic movement is to assume ANYTHING and EVERYTHING will work. I raised energy one time from a random vision of a humanoid figure with kreuger-like nails scratching upward on my arm. Energy moved quite freely and it works well, but is weird. Anyway. congrats on your success and kudos in the future

I have had a few OBE but I only have 2 confirmed ones that I knew were not lucid dreams.

I had one where I slipped out and fell down not realising I was obe. My other longer experience happened when I awoke OBE. Met a women and her children on the street. Not sure . Anyways, Im happy to hear you finally beleive 100% in OBE and experienced it. My first experience was weird as hell and while trying to fly, I remembered I have had OBEs in the past while asleep that I could barely remember. Anyway. Good luck

JEEEEZ MAN. I have built my beleif system on my own experiences and eventually declared being agnostic. Now that I am hearing this, its starting to make sense... If you take 5 seconds to think about it, comparing all this information to the current truth and to ancient writings, its all sensible.... When i say ancient writings, I am NOT referencing the bible being that it is just a controlling book of quarter truth that has its grip on far too many people.

Seriously though, people have almost reached their peak of lifespan for our environment and the ancient calenders are getting closer to their ends and there is ALOT more spiritual activity in my vicinity.

Anyone else here think that our group(meaning projectors and spiritualists) seriously COULD be the only ones expecting the inevitable end? You guys got me thinking and im going to start practicing projection more and dream induction, along with some Psionic energy control if I can retouch my skills. Demonic Warfare was one part of the bible that caught my interest, and could that possibly be part of what is to come?

Ill cyall later, Im gonna go become a hermit for a year or two and figure this out JK

Nice info, its very interesting and creates ALOT of questions. Nice post. Later

LEt me see here.... I can touch my tounge to my nose, put my ankles behind my head, bend my thumb completely backwards, rotate my arms backwards over my head to my back while my 2 hands hold, I can Astral project, I can use computers, I can use energetic healing, I can think of all my talents and name them quickly from the blue, I can chug any liquid that has a low viscosity and a decent taste and I can focus energy hard enough to move a pen forward 2 inches with telekinesis. Thats about it

Someone hacked Cainams account I guess, I have spoken with him before and I know he isn't the moron that is seems like hes being now. or maybe he just turned into a willy :-/ WHich I doubt.

I honestly do beleive that what you say is not 100% accurate, because if that is the case, someone who is $#@!ed up upstairs may try to fix "their problems" with violence/killing.