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I'm just curious as to what other people do while projecting, as stated by the title. Last night I had a projection, but I had no clue what to do, so I was just hovering around while trying to think of something more productive to do. There's a lot of guides on how to project, but not much is out there about what to do after you've already projected. I personally would prefer to do something deep and profound, instead of just hovering around and looking at stuff.

It may seem some do not do a lot when out- but I have never heard an account of someone who just floated there as you say you did.  It would seem anticlimactic, I agree with you.  Usually, I do not have a problem doing something.  First, I do not just project into my room to look around to it.  If that is where you are at this point, it may just be that you need the secure feeling of being around familiar objects.  I am surprised that one of your guides does not make themselves known to you so they can take you someplace else that would benefit you.  That may be a good starting point. Ask your guide to allow you an experience that would be good for you now. 
Generally, when I project, I am either taken by my guide, or I try to project to a person I have a strong attachment to.  This helps me get out, and away from my physical location.  The rest happens as it happens.  You can see an overview of how my experiences progressed on my blog at the address in the signature.  Some are better than others. Few would be significant to anyone but me.

In the beginning, I was tormented by something I had felt the presence of, but not seen fully yet.  got fed up with this, and confronted it. It turned out that this thing that had been my tormentor was actually trying to get my attention to help me.  The way I dealt with this entity tormenting me was to confront it-

I agree you were close. And I think you must be a natural at this because you knew what to try the second time it happened- to manipulate the vibrations.  Move them around, and try to make the vibrations much higher and even in frequency.  Try to not freak out though.  This can take some time to get used to.  For me, the key to OOBE is the vibrations, but you can learn to bypass getting freaked out on the intensity of the vibrations, and the feelings of being freaked out with the awareness during SP.  I started doing this as a kid, and as intense and frightening as it can be, I am here to tell you that the experience can not harm you.  Easy for me to say, I know.  I understand how freaked out you can get when this happens to you.   In my blog (see links in sig) I tell my experiences with gaining control of the experience.   

Hey guys i have a question, does the vibration goes away after you exit your body??

SKepticBOy are you a troll? I don't think you know what you're talking about.

  For me, I do not think the vibrations go away as much as I turn my focus elsewhere.  When I return from where the focus has been, the vibration are there still, and I try to work them up again before making another trip.

A few months ago I had met a girl from my childhood who I hadn't even though of in 10-12 years when I was very young. All I remember is that she had a crush on me. Well she met me in my dreams recently after all this time, and said she still has feelings for me. I told her I am currently in a relationship, and that was it. It made sense to me that the love/crushes we feel when we are younger, are so strong that they will of course remain in the unconscious... to the point that someone will reach out to you

Another situation happened only a couple days ago. Another girl from that era, who didn't have a crush on me, and in fact we didn't like each other or even talk... but I saw her in the OBE/astral state for two days in a row, yesterday and today. I don't remember what we talked about, but today she initiated the meeting to clarify/resolve something.

I know both these experiences are real, but why did they happen? Should I try to contact one of them? The second girl in particular, it makes total sense that she is into astral experiences... but at the same time if she isn't, I would come across as truly insane. Even if it was real, which I have no doubt, I think the chances are very low that these two are consciously aware that it happened...

I am trying to make sense of this though, does anyone have any thoughts/opinions? Is there any opportunity for closure about these experiences, or should I just get used to unresolveable mysteires

More than likely, if you were to contact these people they would not have had the same experiences as you, and might think it was a bit odd, to say the least.  If you feel that your experiences were trying to tell you to contact them to resolve something, you may mention to them that you just have had dreams about them that made you want to contact them for whatever reason. that way, if they have some other experience to relate to you, they can do so at that time. And if not, you do not have to worry that they might think you are crazy. 

i always wondered, what made every one interested into APing?


for me, i wanted to talk to my dead neighbor...he was one hell of a man, almost like a 2nd father to me. even though i've only known him a few short years before he had passed on. once he found out i wanted to be a Marine Corps sniper, he took me under his wing and taught me everything he could(he was a Navy Seal sniper during the Vietnam War). Wanted to tell him, thank you. for believing in me and encouraging me, and being there when i needed someone to talk to. and when i finally pass on myself, we will finally get that party we were planning....and of course that i love him.

when i finally get that, i'll be content enough to never need to OBE/AP again.

what about you all?

I had no choice in it. I had unwanted episodes of "awareness in sleep paralysis" ever since I was 5-6 years old-  The projections came from my struggle to live with the SP. 

Thank you David and EV. And EV, in the last paragraph of your post, i don't understand what do you mean in the last paragraph, please explain for me, thanks.

And you guys know what happen? I try to tell my brother and my parents about my experience and THEY FREAKING LAUGHED!! I tried to tell them that it was real I felt it and I swear that I was not lying but they said I should concentrate my time on the actual reality I am living in and stop worrying about far away and useless things like that. While my retarded little brother said I was hallucinating because he said he had similar experience, and he said it was hallucination. Now I don't even want to tell my friend, they'd sure laugh. I only want them to learn astral projection and find out the truth for themselves cuz as a family i don't want to keep the good things to myself but they're too hard-headed to try to listen to me. I guess I gotta find a way to prove it to them, but I don't know how, I know that the card trick might not work because the astral plane is not the physical dimension.

When I used to talk to my family about this originally, I referred to the experience as if it were a different kind of a dream, even though I knew it was not.  There was no reason to open myself up to ridicule if they thought I was making it all up. As a dream, it was a safe topic to explore.  As it turned out, a couple of my family members had similar "dreams" so we could discuss this without one or the other of us sounding too far "out there."  It can pay to not tell too many details until you know your audience is receptive.

This is very compelling.
Some time ago I read about someone who was having projections and his neurologist referred him to a sleep study, and when he experienced projection they said he was having alpha? intrusion on his delta pattern, and this corresponded to the times when he was having the OBE experiences.  I'm not sure what this shows but I thought it was interesting.
There was some doubt as to this diagnosis, because the person said that the lab in which this study was conducted tended to give this diagnosis to people who had fibromyalgia, so they thought it may have been a 'set' diagnosis, but it made sense to me- after all, this would explain why the brain would recollect the experience that is unconscious in so many people.  The brain just 'synchs' in, and the experience is experienced in 'real time'.  Just a thought.

Seeing this discussion brought me to this site on awareness of sleep paralysis-  http://www.trionica.com/asp/defined.htm 

I have always been interested in whether there was a correlation between my OOBEs that happened spontaneously since I was a kid, and the real world as defined by science.  My view is that in general, people do not normally say aware consciously as they fall asleep. For me, it has always been a possibility that I will stay aware and wake as I fall asleep. It is what happens after this that makes for an interesting night- one way or another. 

Last night I got into a slow pulsing woozshing sound in my head,i tried to increase it and it did in my head.I wanted to do more but i wasnt sure if my body was in paralysis.It happened again in the morning.Cant i exit with just the vibrations in my head.Without having paralysis.Please Help?Thanks.

Do not worry about testing to see if you have SP. If the vibrations are there, go with that.  SP is not always, if it ever is for that matter- pleasant. My goal was to always get past the sensations of SP, and go to the vibrations directly if possible.  Once  had the vibrations, the projection was relatively simple- once I got used to it. 

dude that is scary    but if i were you i would take it as experience and forget it so it won't happen again... i have no Astral projection experience i have only had vibrations which are scary !!!
anyhow--- even i wonder if Astral Abduction is possible----

If you have had the vibrations, you may be on you way to finding out what is possible. 

Hi, I am a new member here, haha, isn't that obvious.
Well, please don't bash me but I am a skeptic, but don't worry I am a very open minded skeptic, I am a skeptic because I want to believe that things that I am skeptical of are real. Which is why I spent hours in the fast 3 days meditating to try to astral project and I'll keep trying. There were times when I had doubt that OBE even exist but consider the fact that many people succeeded and that's why keep me going. So please help me everyone, i need to be enlightened

PS: I am living with a condition that I might die (not AIDS), so I just want to believe that there is life after death.

One more thing lol, I'm trying to cut back the drama, I said I might die not that I will lol.

Well, I was also a skeptic when this all started happening to me when I was a kid.  I did not want anything to do with the experiences, but evidently, I had no choice.  Because I had no choice, I was forced to deal with it, and learning what it meant- at least for me.  I am still not 100% sure what it means, but I know how I feel at the time, and when the experience is happening, I know it is 100% real, and it means I can exist apart from my body.  Of course, my body is still alive, so it is still to proof of life after death. But, it also means that I do not worry about my death as much, or in the same way I may worry otherwise. 

Take a look at some of my blog entries as I learned to accept this, and also how I dealt with the death of a friend of mine who I think came back to tell me she was OK. 

hello to everybody....I'm from Estonia and i live in Italy,so i excuse for my bad English...just yesterday i found out about this site and I'm soooo glad i have had the out of body experiences(for 3weeks,every night) about 7 years ago and I've always thought that it was all my imagination or something unexplainable, until i heard other people to talk about it and i found this site....

Welcome-
You know, when I had the experiences as a small child, I used to worry that because I had them, I might either be crazy already, or that having them would make me crazy.  Now much older and maybe a bit wiser, I am glad I have them. And I am still not crazy   It does make it much easier though, knowing you are not the only one who has this sort of expereince in their lives. 

thanks. so should I just wait or float around or something until I'm able to see?

No- Think of where you want to go, or better- who you want to see, and you should find yourself moving in whatever direction that takes you. When you need to see, you will see.  I myself do not stay anywhere near my "body".  As I said, for me, that is too much of a distraction. 

I have seen that some say you can tell yourself "Vision Now!" and you will see. That has not worked for me.  I used to worry that I could not see from the first instant I felt myself "out" but I got over it, figuring that when there was something worth seeing, I would see it.  Sometimes I do not see until I get to where ever my goal is, however long that may take. 
You may be better off not seeing much initially. It may tend to distract you. 

You really should find a copy of "Journeys out of the Body" used – if it is still out there.  Basically, he was a retired advertising executive who also was an experimenter with the use of different types of sound and altered states of consciousness. His experiences started when he was trying to do sleep learning. He discovered his own sleep paralysis, vibrations and the experiences he had at that point.  Since part of his sleep learning used sounds, he started to experiment with those sounds trying to figure out how they influenced the experiences he had.  He was not the first to have these experiences, but he was the one that is credited with popularizing the term "out-of-body-experience" in his books.  For me, his first book was pivotal in my understanding what was going on with me.  I had seen other books on astral projection, but none of them described it with the vibrations, and sleep paralysis as his book did.  Prior to that, I knew I must be doing something like astral projection, but I was concerned because none of them described exactly what happened to me as "Journeys out of the Body" did.  As far as hemi-synch- I have not tried it.  I never needed a way to induce the experiences.   

Questions: 

1. When you do get into the stage of moving out of your body do you try to physically move your arms or just, think about them moving ?

2. does astral projection feel like real life somtimes ?

3. could you really tell what the lottery numbers were the next day ?

4. if your projecting and someone else you know is projecting at the same time can you talk to them in the astral plane and they will remember the talk as you do ??

5. anyone else just starting out ?

P.S What do i do once i get a big fuzzing noise in my head and im vibrating ? i think that is the time im ready to come out but i dont know how...i imagined stepping out of bed but no dice..also i heard that you just move as if you normally wood, but that just awoke me from the trance and moved my physical body :S



Thanks please reply

1- Trying to move will usually end it for me. I think about moving, and I am gone. .
2- Sometimes it feels more real to me than "real" life. Things are felt or seen in more intensity.
3- I never have tried.  Usually, if I try to see numbers or letters, I cannot make sense of them, and the more I try, the hazier they get. 
4- I have had times I have tried this, but although there were similarities in what I saw compared to my co-projector, the absolute details were a bit off.
5- I have been doing I since I was a kid.  But, sometimes it seems I am just beginning.
PS- My key is to have a goal in mind always- even in waking life.  Make it so this is something you always think about- You want it with all of your being. Then the key is that when you actually have the vibrations, keep that desire strong but try not to want it so bad you come out of it.  At that time, you have to try to observe without the emotion taking over.  Definitely, do not rush the vibrations.  Make them strong. Try to get them as high frequency as you can and smooth them out. If it feels smooth it is better than if it is rough and in and out-. 

thanks!

I also wanted to add, that like Nighlight said, I also know before the time when it is going to happen.... which made it more scary to me before i realised it was OBE's.

I remember telling other people, years ago, that I always know before the time when I am going to have a bad dream/nightmare, and nobody ever believed me or understand what I was getting at.

now things obviously makes more sense to me!

This is true for me also.  I know just before the vibrations start that OOBE may be possible. Ad I get that same weird sensation just before some of my most scary regular dreams.

Some of my early experiences OOB were like that.  It really was not my idea to do this from the beginning.  I had rather insistent "help'" from something or someone "out" there.  A few of these were as you describe- like I was taken without my will , usually out in what I thought of as space.  Usually in these, I felt strongly that I was not alone.  But, by this time in my experiences, I trusted myself, or other beings I may encounter- that nothing bad would happen to me, however it felt at the time.  I rode the experience out. They were quite interesting at the time. 

But, thinking back- my experiences and how I started having them is not the same as some who post here.  I did not choose to do this.  It chose me.  I fought it at first, and only gradually accepted that I had no choice but to learn to live with it happening.   

My story of how I did this is in my blog if you care to look.  The experiences in 'deep space' are there too. 

Oh, um, actually, I just described this in another thread.

The first time I did this was maybe on my 5th projection. I've had never gone very far before, I was floating in my room, trying to stay out of body, when it suddenly crossed my mind to go to space. I started floating up very fast, and then just like that, I was "out there."

It was an incredible feeling. Very disorienting, and very overwhelming. Honestly, I felt rather uncomfortable. It makes you feel so SMALL, so miniscule. I only stayed out there for a few moments, I really couldn't handle it for very long.

Um, as for techniques, I don't have any. I tried every technique I've ever heard of, none worked. I just go to sleep sometimes, and I'll "wake up" out of body.

Oh, well, I lied. I guess I do have a technique. Before I go to sleep, I'll tell myself a few times, very forcefully inside my head, that I WILL have an OBE that night. I WILL wake up outside my body.

Sometimes that helps.

xD Good luck!!

I remember a time or two "out" there.  I remember the trip was incredibly fast, to the point that I felt heat and wondered if I would be in one piece at teh end of it.  More about this in my blog- see below.   

Hello everyone,
I recently discovered that my sleep paralyze is not really a medical problem just a gift. Sleep paralyze has been happening to me for about 3 years now. I used to be really scared when I would wake up and could not move and be looking around. It has happened to me so much I just got used to the fact this is happening to me and I have over come the fear and  become a master at  waking my self up. After discussing my sleeping issue with my dad he told me its not a medical problem just a gift. This shocked me first. This was my father telling me this. I would of never expected him to be into this stuff.  Also if I never have had sleep paralyze I would think you guys are all nuts and crazy's. I'm a true believer now guess I can be called crazy. Lately this has been happening to me a lot. My biggest problem is my first instinct is to try to wake my self up. I forget to even try to have OBE. The first time I did have a OBE I got so scared because I couldn't feel my heart beating and felt like I was suffocating. This keep me away from trying this for a about a year and just went back to my old ways of waking my self up. TRust me this really scared Sh**t out of me. Well now I have no fears of dying and don't really pay attention to my heart so I'm ready to explore. Normally when I get into this state I hear very loud White Noise when I ether open my eyes or leave my body which is a very weird feeling it sounds just like a radio station with no signal. Last night I got into that state it seemed like 15 minutes of me trying to wake my self up then I remember I wanted to try to have another OBE well I was successful. I made it out pf my bedroom into  living room to my front door then I got scared for some reason and came back. I then did it again this time I remembered reading on the internet about meeting people and talking with them while astral traveling. The way I figured to meet people was that everyone just hangs out up in the clouds so next thing I knew was I was up in the clouds but nobody to be found. I then got scared because I forgot to check to see if the silver cord was hooked to me and didn't want to get lost. Thinking about that ended my astral traveling for that night. This does happen to me a lot. If I try to wake my self up as soon as I try to go back to sleep BAM!! I right back to where I started paralyzed again haha it happens to me  3-4 times in a night. I would like to have fun with this instead of it being a problem.

Even when you accept that this is a gift, it does not mean that it is always easy to over-ride the almost automatic FEAR of the UNKNOWN reaction. In my case I took a very long time to accept that this happened to me, and there was little if anything I could do to change that.  The SP went away for short times, but always came back.  There was not an internet to research back then- only a couple of books that did not ring true for what I was going through. I had no one to talk to about this for fear of being labeled a "crazy" or worse, have a doctor try to medicate me out of it.  What you say here and below are exactly what I experienced.  The fear, the thought that my ear would be damaged- The frustration thinking the if this was so loud for me, why was I the only on hearing it?

Play with the vibrations.  Move them around, try to alter the frequency higher- smoother. The longer you can maintain that sort of control, the easier it should get for you.  And, I have found that the further I try to get away from my physical location initially, the easier it is to stay away.  What also works for me is to think of a person as a goal instead of the place you think they will be or a place in general. You may be wrong for one thing, and I have found that it is easier to get out thinking of a person you have a strong tie to. 

Almost had it again last night after trying to project and just as Im about to drift in my sleep and different flashes of images on my thoughts, my right foot started to vibrate. It almost felt like an energy rising up. As I try to imagine myself lifting up it stopped. I need advice if I should start concentrating things at that point or just let it be and wait?

What is your rush? I know it is hard to wait when you are feeling progress. But, it might be easier for you to project if the vibrations were completely over your body at the time.  Get them to move around- it is good practice, and it helps you to get into the right frame of mind. Move them around, let them spread. Concentrate them into your head- When you feel you just can't contain them any longer- think strongly about a goal.  For me, this is usually a person I am very close to. I think about them wanting to be with them where ever they are.  If you worry about getting stuck, you will get stuck. Think yourself beyond the obstacles.

It's definitely breaking a habit, I just wrote an entire article about this on my blog called "Breaking Old Habits". Personally I would have to weigh my options if I was normally a good sleeper and was losing sleep, but as it stands I have not slept well in the last 10 years.

Every night right as I fall asleep I feel like I am dieing and jump up in a panic right after dozing off. I have seen several doctors about this and none have any answers. The best way I can describe it is that I feel like I consciousness is being snuffed out and I fight it and wake back up. The OBE attempts have actually helped me and this has not been happening as much.

Anyway, have you tried OBEs during the day after you have had enough sleep?

I have also had this feeling of panic and loss of consciousness- as if it is draining right out of me. I associate this with sleep paralysis.  Most times now, I can bypass the SP and go straight to projection.  These bad feelings during SP gradually subsided after I faced down my SP "daemons".  See my blog-
http://myotherrealty.blogspot.com/
 

Hi, Friends,
I saw three beings some years ago and I felt their faces and eyes were sending love and good vibrations to me. I was in a temple, a real temple, where people get together for meditation and spiritual work. It was in the morning and I saw them with my eyes open. They stare at me in a compassionate and tender way and they were so focus in my person that I thinked they have no eyes for anybody else. I remmember their were clothes in some orange robe. Maybe they are part of the Big Brothers, the real and spiritual Big Brothers. I would try to find them again.

Good day!

Those I have seen were tall, thin and wore a hooded cloak of some kind and carried long staffs as they approached me.  The first time I saw them I was afraid of them. The second time, I was not as scared as I was intimidated- because I felt they were there to judge me in something I did not feel very proficient at.  In that case, I was wrong to feel that way. They actually congratulated me as if I had passed some sort of test. 

I have seen tall beings before, but I do not remember them being any particular color. Were they dressed in any way you remembr? 

OK.  Here is my entry. For a while I will be catching it up,and then it will go on- provided I have anything else to say. . .

I will see you all "out there"

http://otherrealityblog.blogspot.com/


Sorry I had to make a change to this. I know I had at least one follower and that link is broken now.