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Yeah thoughts like this happen to me too sometimes...I just think "Shutup" and change the subject in my mind

Mhm, I get the sound but I don't get the voices O.o I just get the general mind high frequency sound.

I have no idea what any of you are on about and it sounds like you are talking about a portuguese mafia. Quite frankly I don't care what disputes you have but you have just bought negative comments,thoughts and energies alike onto this forum, please stop.

I give them a week each

Okay so over my months here I have read a fair few exiting methods, now of which don't seem to work for me, I have only experienced full sleep paralysis this week and find it incredibly easy to get to that state, but what I want to know is...

Whats the best technique for you?

Sounds amazing, I hope to achieve that in my next few weeks after my first short OBE Which also I found it hard to get through my door...So just like you I thought I might actually be sleep walking or something O.o

So I was wondering...do you think the reason it's so...electrical and vibrational is because this is inside our heads? yes it's real and true, but do you think we ever actually leave our minds? I mean if we did that...we wouldn't be able to think...Perhaps all humans minds are connected?

No thank you Stookie! I don't think I would have been able to get here without you and certain other top posters. I had always been wondering what it was like since I saw this site...and it didn't disappoint!

I remember you told me once "Do by not Doing." and this is definatly a good way to go about it, act like your not going to do it but then do it !

What works for me is being in a common place where I think "hang on a second...something is different than usual" like at school / work

That is true, but when you OBE you first come into the physical plane, just higher up I believe, -then- you move up to the astral planes

Oh right, I thought you meant physically...In the astral it's wonderful, you have your whole physical body...It's like a second you, when you open your eyes you see everything and then your other body just lying there asleep, so yes. You do open your eyes, but don't force them open or you may lose your concentration, but they open on their own.

To OBE while in a dream, you just have to imagine yourself being yanked really hard and imagine yourself in your bed falling out of it again or...If your up against a wall or something solid, feel the feeling of being pulled through it and you'll just pop out, your eyes will open and you'll think to yourself "Am I sleepwalking?"

So in light of my first OBE, I wanted to ask two questions, so I know what to do next.

1. To get away from the physical plane and up onto the proper astral planes what do you have to do? Close your eyes and think of going there, or verbally say it?

2. Are all things in the astral governed by verbal commands i.e if I wanted to see the lottery would I just have to say "Show me the winning lottery numbers of euromillions."? and do the verbal commands manifest in the physical plane in the form of sleep talking?

Heh, thank you...It's a very obscure one that I've never heard, I'm going to try it from now on, if it succeeds again I guess it's a good technique, sorry if it doesn't work for you, I'm pretty new to this so I can't promise anything. All I know is it worked for me

Here's to hoping!

01. How exactly do you return to the body/wake up?

Well, it's like a normal dream, your time will end at some point and you will wake up, or if you want to get out say it or say "take me to my body."

02. What happens if someone wakes you up while you are projecting? (Ex. you are in your room in your bed and a sibling comes and shakes you to wake you up)

You just wake up as usual.

03. When projecting, do you keep your eyes closed all the time or do you open them?

Well, when I looked at myself they were flickering under the eyelids, but I wasn't in a very deep state of projection.

There is no need to feel worried or scared about projection, it can't harm you only teach you! Hope I helped.

Okay, so I see on this forum allot of failure and allot of techniques that didn't help me much, I believe everyone has their unique way and all that jazz...

I registered here on February 12, 2009, It is currently August 11, 2009. So just so you know it doesn't -have- to take a couple of years, and by far the easiest way to OBE is LDing.

So here's my story...Two days ago, I had my first LD which I had attempted many times before with no avai. I wrote a topic about it.

Well, the other morning I had my first Lucid dream, I believe I had enough consciousness to turn it into an AP, but I didn't know what to expect of one as I'd never had it before, I was simply too excited that I'd -finally- thought I'd reached an AP, I thought...there must be a way to test it, so I said "Let me fly" and sort of just moved up using my mind...I thought that was fool proof, but then I woke up and consulted it some more I realised it was an LD because of all the dream like things, I will be much more vigilant next time.

So...after making that mistake, I was set to have another LD again sometimes and correct it and of course, as I said "I will be much more vigilant next time." this was true.

So, one night no dreams in between, then last night...I couldn't get to sleep and I tried to get myself to sleep obviously...I thought through a plethora of different dream scenario's one of them being at my school in a lesson...I only just realized how much this helped, when I finally did get to sleep I had a dream I was in my school, and being in such a common place I wanted to do things I would usually do that reverted from what the dream wanted, this is what got me lucid...then I had a teacher who was literally telling me how to OBE, she said "Think of a dream scenario and pull yourself out!" So I tried this and ended up being a medieval knight running to battle, I stopped and just yanked him as hard as I could and I came out partially, but I didn't realize...I thought I might be out...but it felt to real and I was worried I had just woken up...so I was halfway leaning over my bed and tried to touch the ground and it felt like real life so I continued, my teacher told me to think of a scenario when I was in danger so I imagined a giant beast was after me and I was backed into a wall, but I was watching from 3rd person...I saw someone behind me through the wall, she was  female I think it was my guide...my mind manifested her into the female at the top of this forum. Next think I know, I'm propped up in bed...but It's a bright as day in my room...as if I didn't have a ceiling...but I did...It felt so real, so like waking life...but I could hear spirits talking the whole time...I walked to my door but didn't go through, because I didn't force myself, I just thought I could float through...So...I thought to make sure I wasn't sleep walking I would turn round to look at my body, knowing full well this would take me back as I had read, I needed to know...So I did...I was lying there as crisp as day! My arm was resting on a pillow besides me and my eyes were flickering open slightly as I looked at myself, I felt vibrations everywhere through this whole OBE and then I moved my arm and my physical arm moved slightly too...Next thing I know...I'm back in my body no longer dreaming no longer OBEing...I decided okay it's over and came to post this!

So that is my technique :

- Imagine a dream of you in common life (i.e work) before you go to sleep
and
- Have a plethora of dream scenario's before you go to sleep.

Hope you liked my experiences!

Well, the other morning I had my first Lucid dream, I believe I had enough consciousness to turn it into an AP, but I didn't know what to expect of one as I'd never had it before, I was simply too excited that I'd -finally- thought I'd reached an AP, I thought...there must be a way to test it, so I said "Let me fly" and sort of just moved up using my mind...I thought that was fool proof, but then I woke up and consulted it some more I realised it was an LD because of all the dream like things, I will be much more vigilant next time.

[It was at the night, I was furious for some perssonal reasons. Then I got a shock of bad energy in my whole body and I started to just think about hurting someone, Then I went to bed to Astral project and then something wierd happened: I already was in a deep trance, then I started to look through my closed eyes and then I saw exactly my face with green opened green eyes smiling a diabolic smile, I was terrified! I didn't know what to do I just looked exactly into his eyes and then I felt a gusbumps and I tried to get out of the trance but I was already paralyzed and it seemed like it attacked me with no reason and without moving from its place.. I don't think it was the projected double cuz I know my projected double.. this was an evil form..]

It was at the night, I was furious for some perssonal reasons. Then I got a shock of bad energy in my whole body and I started to just think about hurting someone, Then I went to bed to Astral project and then something wierd happened: I already was in a deep trance, then I started to look through my closed eyes and then I saw exactly my face with green opened green eyes smiling a diabolic smile, I was terrified! I didn't know what to do I just looked exactly into his eyes and then I felt a gusbumps and I tried to get out of the trance but I was already paralyzed and it seemed like it attacked me with no reason and without moving from its place.. I don't think it was the projected double cuz I know my projected double.. this was an evil form..

This is a quote from "Negative spirit projection! help!!!" by Mistic-Idan

Maybe these eyes could be evil forms? The feral sort of beasts inside of us? If I could Astral, I'm not sure I would go straight to them, but maybe ask "What is the Green eyes" Maybe it's not a society? Or it may even be in the Akashic records?

I don't see it as a no go area, I see it as an interesting exciting area!

Very strange..I guess -everyone- must be apart of the Green eyes society? Maybe all souls are linked to it some way?

I saw them again this morning after a failed attempt of OOBing, it's like they want to see me or something..I'm interested..allot in this ^^

This is really really interesting..I had completely forgot about this topic till this morning !

This morning I woke up, but kept my eyes closed..I moved a tiny bit subconciously and that ruined the state abit, but then I looked to the top of my eyes and saw two green eyes, dotting about above me..they were looking straight at me..this was very strange..then I finally had to get up..

This excited me ! Anyone else seen the green eyes ?

It seems to have helped me induce an almost AP state in the morning..If I had more experience with it I would have gone into AP most likely..But I had to get up sadly

Thank you, Hopefully..if this rare occurrence happens again..I will try this too, I'm hoping now I've got to that stage..It will be easier to Achieve now, But this may not be the case, I'm adding what you said to the top of my todo list next time.

Once again, Thank you

Okay so..I thought I had got pretty close to Projecting..but it appears not..Before I had experienced Intense vibrations..but not this fine tuned or so complete around my body..I will tell you how it happened.

So, that night..I tried multiple techniques..Counting twenty breaths, which got rid of my blocked up nose and got my body into a relaxed state I tried the Phasing Technique, and the looking to the top of my head technique, it appeared so that these didn't work..but little to my knowing..It may have done more than I thought.

So..I woke up in the morning..But my eyes were closed..I never have my eyes closed when I wake up..I kept them closed and soon realised..My body was vibrating at an extremely tuned rate...I knew I was in the final stage before Exiting..So. I Attempted Phasing first..my eyes went to somewhere I hadn't seen before..My eyes were already light..but Phasing didn't happen..I attempted to Roll..But I didn't move atall..I just imagined my body rolling out..nothing happened..I tried for abit longer..again nothing..So then I remembered a Technique I read about a while ago...Although My arms weren't aligned in the right place for it. But I tried anyhow..I Imagined my hands being pulled out by a Boat going at great speed..This did have some effect, I felt my right hand lift from my body only slightly..It was like..Disaligned, Yet It took no affect on the rest of my body..I finally tried to Exit by looking to the top of my head to see If there was somewhere I could exit from. I felt a tiny bit closer..and tried to move my arms without actually moving them..nothing moved..I felt like there was one more thing I needed todo..

Also..just one more detail, It felt like my legs were over the cover, apart from my feet..but after I did all these attempts..I gave up and my awareness rised abit from the sound of cars outside, I Opened my eyes slowly and I felt temporary Blindness ! the White that was in my eyes from before..took abit of time to seep away..it was what I had heard being described before ! I was happy I got further than ever before..but annoyed I wasn't able to move out, I noticed, once I gained view again..my legs -were- under the covers ! I was fairly lucid and in a relaxed state by then and tried again..Closed my eyes and began to breath calmly automatically..the state came back..but now I had been awake..My body seemed to have gained abit more awareness and then my Hay fever started..I was extremely annoyed at this, I had another chance but I couldn't take it due to my hay fever !!