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quote:Hello Everyone
Allanon is a name in the states for an organization that saves drug addicts and helps their families by using Christianity. It is a lot like Alchoholics Anonymus in that way.
They want to believe that Christ saved them and are people that believe in every word of the bible even though the different translations prove how much it has been changed. Try reading a Greek Orthodox bible it is a lot different than the King James version for example.
Now that said people who go through these things believe that everyone else has made terrible mistakes just like they have made. They go around trying to make up for their mistakes by shoving their beliefs down everyones throats. I have seen one tell my Mother she is not Christian when she is a deacon in a Presbyterian church.
I agree with Adrian everyone has been patient with you Allanon. Please go and reform the people around where you live and who you grew up with in your life. They are the ones who made you what you are and they are the ones who should be hearing these speeches.
You do not know what others believe or care about and should quit harassing them. Every person on this earth learns their own lessons and goes on their own Path. You have chosen your Path don't drive everyone else away from it by your preaching.
Nita

I did not know that. It sounds like a GREAT organization though.

[Psalm 371Of David. Do not fret because of evil men or be envious of those who do wrong;2 for like the grass they will soon wither, like green plants they will soon die away.3 Trust in the LORD and do good; dwell in the land and enjoy safe pasture.4 Delight yourself in the LORD and he will give you the desires of your heart.5 Commit your way to the LORD; trust in him and he will do this:6 He will make your righteousness shine like the dawn, the justice of your cause like the noonday sun.7 Be still before the LORD and wait patiently for him; do not fret when men succeed in their ways, when they carry out their wicked schemes.8 Refrain from anger and turn from wrath; do not fret--it leads only to evil.9 For evil men will be cut off, but those who hope in the LORD will inherit the land.10 A little while, and the wicked will be no more; though you look for them, they will not be found.11 But the meek will inherit the land and enjoy great peace.12 The wicked plot against the righteous and gnash their teeth at them;13 but the Lord laughs at the wicked, for he knows their day is coming.14 The wicked draw the sword and bend the bow to bring down the poor and needy, to slay those whose ways are upright.15 But their swords will pierce their own hearts, and their bows will be broken.16 Better the little that the righteous have than the wealth of many wicked;17 for the power of the wicked will be broken, but the LORD upholds the righteous.18 The days of the blameless are known to the LORD, and their inheritance will endure for ever.19 In times of disaster they will not wither; in days of famine they will enjoy plenty.20 But the wicked will perish: The LORD's enemies will be like the beauty of the fields, they will vanish--vanish like smoke.21 The wicked borrow and do not repay, but the righteous give generously;22 those the LORD blesses will inherit the land, but those he curses will be cut off.23 If the LORD delights in a man's way, he makes his steps firm;24 though he stumble, he will not fall, for the LORD upholds him with his hand.25 I was young and now I am old, yet I have never seen the righteous forsaken or their children begging bread.26 They are always generous and lend freely; their children will be blessed.27 Turn from evil and do good; then you will dwell in the land for ever.28 For the LORD loves the just and will not forsake his faithful ones.They will be protected for ever, but the offspring of the wicked will be cut off;29 the righteous will inherit the land and dwell in it for ever.30 The mouth of the righteous man utters wisdom, and his tongue speaks what is just.31 The law of his God is in his heart; his feet do not slip.32 The wicked lie in wait for the righteous, seeking their very lives;33 but the LORD will not leave them in their power or let them be condemned when brought to trial.34 Wait for the LORD and keep his way. He will exalt you to inherit the land; when the wicked are cut off, you will see it.35 I have seen a wicked and ruthless man flourishing like a green tree in its native soil,36 but he soon passed away and was no more; though I looked for him, he could not be found.37 Consider the blameless, observe the upright; there is a future for the man of peace.38 But all sinners will be destroyed; the future of the wicked will be cut off.39 The salvation of the righteous comes from the LORD; he is their stronghold in time of trouble.40 The LORD helps them and delivers them; he delivers them from the wicked and saves them, because they take refuge in him]

Psalm 37
1Of David. Do not fret because of evil men or be envious of those who do wrong;
2 for like the grass they will soon wither, like green plants they will soon die away.
3
Trust in the LORD and do good; dwell in the land and enjoy safe pasture.
4 Delight yourself in the LORD and he will give you the desires of your heart.
5
Commit your way to the LORD; trust in him and he will do this:
6 He will make your righteousness shine like the dawn, the justice of your cause like the noonday sun.
7
Be still before the LORD and wait patiently for him; do not fret when men succeed in their ways, when they carry out their wicked schemes.
8
Refrain from anger and turn from wrath; do not fret--it leads only to evil.
9 For evil men will be cut off, but those who hope in the LORD will inherit the land.
10
A little while, and the wicked will be no more; though you look for them, they will not be found.
11 But the meek will inherit the land and enjoy great peace.
12
The wicked plot against the righteous and gnash their teeth at them;
13 but the Lord laughs at the wicked, for he knows their day is coming.
14
The wicked draw the sword and bend the bow to bring down the poor and needy, to slay those whose ways are upright.
15 But their swords will pierce their own hearts, and their bows will be broken.
16
Better the little that the righteous have than the wealth of many wicked;
17 for the power of the wicked will be broken, but the LORD upholds the righteous.
18
The days of the blameless are known to the LORD, and their inheritance will endure for ever.
19 In times of disaster they will not wither; in days of famine they will enjoy plenty.
20
But the wicked will perish: The LORD's enemies will be like the beauty of the fields, they will vanish--vanish like smoke.
21
The wicked borrow and do not repay, but the righteous give generously;
22 those the LORD blesses will inherit the land, but those he curses will be cut off.
23
If the LORD delights in a man's way, he makes his steps firm;
24 though he stumble, he will not fall, for the LORD upholds him with his hand.
25
I was young and now I am old, yet I have never seen the righteous forsaken or their children begging bread.
26 They are always generous and lend freely; their children will be blessed.
27
Turn from evil and do good; then you will dwell in the land for ever.
28 For the LORD loves the just and will not forsake his faithful ones.
They will be protected for ever, but the offspring of the wicked will be cut off;
29 the righteous will inherit the land and dwell in it for ever.
30
The mouth of the righteous man utters wisdom, and his tongue speaks what is just.
31 The law of his God is in his heart; his feet do not slip.
32
The wicked lie in wait for the righteous, seeking their very lives;
33 but the LORD will not leave them in their power or let them be condemned when brought to trial.
34
Wait for the LORD and keep his way. He will exalt you to inherit the land; when the wicked are cut off, you will see it.
35
I have seen a wicked and ruthless man flourishing like a green tree in its native soil,
36 but he soon passed away and was no more; though I looked for him, he could not be found.
37
Consider the blameless, observe the upright; there is a future for the man of peace.
38 But all sinners will be destroyed; the future of the wicked will be cut off.
39
The salvation of the righteous comes from the LORD; he is their stronghold in time of trouble.
40 The LORD helps them and delivers them; he delivers them from the wicked and saves them, because they take refuge in him

[Creme was instructed to prepare the way for one Lord Maitreya — a Master and self-proclaimed christ who would soon begin to assume a human form to begin preparing humanity for the Age of Aquarius. The Aquarian Age would be a time of peace, plenty, perfect equality, and global governance under the Masters, via the United Nations.]

Creme was instructed to prepare the way for one Lord Maitreya — a Master and self-proclaimed christ who would soon begin to assume a human form to begin preparing humanity for the Age of Aquarius. The Aquarian Age would be a time of peace, plenty, perfect equality, and global governance under the Masters, via the United Nations.


http://www.conspiracyarchive.com/NewAge/Creme_Maitreya.htm

Maitreya is the full maniestation of the work of these false teachers. We see today that people bow knee to him and he is a false Chrsit!!

[19On the evening of that first day of the week, when the disciples were together, with the doors locked for fear of the Jews, Jesus came and stood among them and said, "Peace be with you!" 20After he said this, he showed them his hands and side. The disciples were overjoyed when they saw the Lord. 21Again Jesus said, "Peace be with you! As the Father has sent me, I am sending you." 22And with that he breathed on them and said, "Receive the Holy Spirit. 23If you forgive anyone his sins, they are forgiven; if you do not forgive them, they are not forgiven."]

quote:well you all may be right or wrong but what allanon was saying is jesus still lives, not in the physical but as a spirit in our hearts, he is still with us. not physically but spirtually. im not taking anyones side im only giving my oppinion of what allanon has said.

PHYSICALLY, PHYSICALLY, PHYSICALLY. Jesus Christ rose physically!!!! You must believe that in order to be saved.

19On the evening of that first day of the week, when the disciples were together, with the doors locked for fear of the Jews, Jesus came and stood among them and said, "Peace be with you!" 20After he said this, he showed them his hands and side. The disciples were overjoyed when they saw the Lord.
21Again Jesus said, "Peace be with you! As the Father has sent me, I am sending you." 22And with that he breathed on them and said, "Receive the Holy Spirit. 23If you forgive anyone his sins, they are forgiven; if you do not forgive them, they are not forgiven."

I see your point completely Soulfire. I will post my testimony on another thread. But the topic here is Ascended Masters. Do not follow them. Soulfire do you think it is wise to bow knee to these men?

Soulfire--

You are right in that Love is key when dealing with the world but understand that a great tribulation is coming for those that keep hard to the Gospel. The prophecy of the Christ haters is already coming to pass. People hate what I have to say on these forums.

If it were a witch saying that you guys must drink the vine of the dead to be "enlightened" or a monk telling you to meditate more than you would not even give it another look. BUT WHEN THE TRUTH HITS THE HEART YOU KNOW!!! You can see it as they take down the ten commandments in the south and as gay bishops are elected. The TRUE flock that will survive the Mark of the Beast understands the infallible nature of the Bible and must stand firm to heretics and false prophets.

All Praise to the Lamb!

[2Do not conform any longer to the pattern of this world, but be transformed by the renewing of your mind. Then you will be able to test and approve what God's will is--his good, pleasing and perfect will.]

I am just letting you guys know to not bend knee to anti - Christs. I am not forcing you. It needs to be told and I am tired of wimpy Christians conforming to the world.

My personal testimony is of no consequence. I challenge any so called Ascended Masters to speak up now and let me know why I should follow you?

2Do not conform any longer to the pattern of this world, but be transformed by the renewing of your mind. Then you will be able to test and approve what God's will is--his good, pleasing and perfect will.

quote:If God existed and we all died right now and went to Gods heaven I can honestly believe that eventually we'd end up turning it into a excrement hole and make war with eachother.

That is why only those that are in agreement with the Mind of Chrsit may enter the gates.

Romans 12:1

Therefore I urge you, Brothers, in view of God's mercy, to make your bodies as living sacrifices, Holy and pleasing to God, this is your spiritual act of worship.

[4They will see his face, and his name will be on their foreheads. 5There will be no more night. They will not need the light of a lamp or the light of the sun, for the Lord God will give them light. And they will reign for ever and ever. 6The angel said to me, "THESE WORDS ARE TRUSTWORTH AND TRUE. The Lord, the God of the spirits of the prophets, sent his angel to show his servants the things that must soon take place."]

Guess who back!!! THE WORD.

quote:Allanon believes that scripture will work on people regardless of belief.

4They will see his face, and his name will be on their foreheads. 5There will be no more night. They will not need the light of a lamp or the light of the sun, for the Lord God will give them light. And they will reign for ever and ever. 6The angel said to me, "THESE WORDS ARE TRUSTWORTH AND TRUE. The Lord, the God of the spirits of the prophets, sent his angel to show his servants the things that must soon take place."

[14"Blessed are those who wash their robes, that they may have the right to the tree of life and may go through the gates into the city. 15Outside are the dogs, those who PRACTICE MAGIC ARTS, the sexually immoral, the murderers, the idolaters and everyone who loves and practices falsehood.]

quote:The term 'The Occult' has been advertised to the general public as a dark thing (mainly by the church). It is really supposed to mean all types of magics and rituals, both good and bad.
It is the same as when Witches were advertised as evil doers and the spawn of satan. There are both good and bad witches.

14"Blessed are those who wash their robes, that they may have the right to the tree of life and may go through the gates into the city. 15Outside are the dogs, those who PRACTICE MAGIC ARTS, the sexually immoral, the murderers, the idolaters and everyone who loves and practices falsehood.

quote:Ta Ta for now.

Please - open your mind and open your heart and I know you will see that there is a place for everyone in God's universe.

JUST MAKE SURE YOU HAVE THE BEST SEAT!!!

[HAVING FAITH IN JESUS AND HIS FINISHED WORK.]

Allright maybe I will answer this couple of questions because they really got my itch goin again. I will be gentler this time.

quote:if a jew grows up to be a good, caring, honest, loving, loyal, decent, helpful member of society, why should he go to hell?

Because he has failed to fulfill the whole Law. Jesus is the only One that fulfilled the whole Law.

quote:and what do you mean when you say "accept jesus" and the like, to me it doesnt make sense, how does one accept jesus?

You accept Jesus by HAVING FAITH IN JESUS AND HIS FINISHED WORK.

God is prefect and to be in His presence completely you have to fulfill the Law of God. As most here are New Agers there is that drive you adhere to which says "I will find God in my path, in my way, in my time". You see we can never find God fully again. Not from the way of the world that is. We are lost souls. Look to the mirror and tell me that you deserve to have the rewards of the Saints. None of us do and only by Jesus coming and fulfilling the Law through Grace are we allowed to finally have the peace and rest that we all want in life.

ONLY GOD CAN REPAY GOD.

quote:The Mysticweb site belongs to people who dabble with the dark side of the occult.
Well. Thats just my opinion from what I keep reading about the place.

There is no Light side to the occult.

All in all I guess my evangelical message delivery SUCKS and I should probably take up inventing a cool talking Bible or somthing. LOL.[]

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quote:You never rationalized your denunciation of other gods due to their being 'dead in their graves' when Jesus is just as dead. Don't give me any of that Jesus is still alive crap, fact is he's not here on the physical, nor is mohammed, or buddha. Your arument makes no sense.

Jesus had many, many eye witness accounts of His ressurection.

IT BOILS DOWN TO THE FACT THAT NONEOF THE OTHER RELIGIOUS FOUNDERS EVEN CLAIMTO HAVE RISEN FROM THE DEAD.

[1Therefore, I urge you, brothers, in view of God's mercy, to offer your bodies as living sacrifices, holy and pleasing to God--this is your spiritual[1] act of worship. 2Do not conform any longer to the pattern of this world, but be transformed by the renewing of your mind. Then you will be able to test and approve what God's will is--his good, pleasing and perfect will.]

1Therefore, I urge you, brothers, in view of God's mercy, to offer your bodies as living sacrifices, holy and pleasing to God--this is your spiritual[1] act of worship. 2Do not conform any longer to the pattern of this world, but be transformed by the renewing of your mind. Then you will be able to test and approve what God's will is--his good, pleasing and perfect will.

[1Therefore, I urge you, brothers, in view of God's mercy, to offer your bodies as living sacrifices, holy and pleasing to God--this is your spiritual[1] act of worship. 2Do not conform any longer to the pattern of this world, but be transformed by the renewing of your mind. Then you will be able to test and approve what God's will is--his good, pleasing and perfect will.]

quote:I would suggest you think very deeply about these passages from the bible as written. They express the truth we are inseparable from God and vice versa, and God is not an autonomous deity standing in judgement over any aspect of humanity. We are all totally equal in the eyes of God, all part of the same Universe, and all subject to the same immutable Universal laws of cause and effect. No amount of words or books will alter that fact one iota.

Yes you are correct!!! We are inseperable from God and under the same LAW OF GOD. The problem is NONE OF US HAVE FULFILLED THAT LAW. WE HAVE ALL FAILED. NO MATTER HOW MUCH LOVE YOU SPREAD OR HALLMARK CARDS YOU SEND TO SICK OLD PEOPLE THE FACT REMAINS THAT AT ONE POINT IN YOUR LIFE YOU SLIPPED UP!!! The only Way to exist in the Kingdom of Heaven is if the Perfect Being of Christ takes your spot at the judgement.

quote:I would also like you to consider very deeply what will happen to you when you pass on. Like everyone, you will transition to a part of the Astral realm analogous to your character, beliefs and development. If you really believe what you are saying, you will find yourself in a lower part of the Astral known as a "belief system territory", and which will be full of people like yourself all preaching to and trying to convince each other. Of course, after time, everyone in a BST will come to realise the reality, and can then move on to the mod levels of the Astral which are a whole lot more peaceful, harmonious and pleasant.

As far as this New Age deception goes it is quite obvious that you are falling prey to Satans first lie. YE SHALL SHURELY NOT DIE.

THE WAGES OF SIN IS DEATH MY FRIEND AND YOU MUST REALIZE THAT WHEN YOU DIE YOU DIE. THE ONLY HOPE YOU HAVE IS TO BE RESSURECTED IN THE BODY OF CHRIST.

I was once in your shoes and bought the lies. I practiced AP and delved into the world of the Shaman. I had entity contacts that I now realize were demons tricking me into a false sense of security. They don't want you to accept the blood of Christ because that means you get away.

I am not trying to be an butt on this forum and truly do Love all of you in Christ because I know EXACTLY what you are going through. I am telling you that there is life after death but it is only to be found in the Perfect deity of Jesus Christ. If your APing means so much to you fine. But at least give Him a chance and pray to Him sometime just for curiousities sake.

quote:1Therefore, I urge you, brothers, in view of God's mercy, to offer your bodies as living sacrifices, holy and pleasing to God--this is your spiritual[1] act of worship. 2Do not conform any longer to the pattern of this world, but be transformed by the renewing of your mind. Then you will be able to test and approve what God's will is--his good, pleasing and perfect will.

quote:um, allanon... i have a question... all those people that existed before jesus was born... that lived and died before he was even "conceived" or whatever you want to call it... they are burning in hell just because jesus didn't even exist yet, and no one knew he would come along? how was anyone supposed to worship him when he didn't exist yet? why would God do that, condemn all those innocent people to burn because of something they had no control of? if you really think about your God, and the logic (or lack of logic) he uses, well, frankly, he sounds like a real *sshole, and i'd rather "chill" with in hell with all the cool people.

Curious girl,

Those that were before the time of Christ were under the Old Covenant that God made with the people. Howevewr Christ fulfilled the LAW FOR ALL TIME so it is possible that the rules on those before the Messiah are different.

quote:

as the saying goes: when you spit against heaven it falls back in your face. which is very true[/quote]

Which is why Jesus takes your place of being spit and turns it into the pure spring water of eternal life!!!

[The Fulfillment of the Law 17"Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them. 18I tell you the truth, until heaven and earth disappear, not the smallest letter, not the least stroke of a pen, will by any means disappear from the Law until everything is accomplished. 19Anyone who breaks one of the least of these commandments and teaches others to do the same will be called least in the kingdom of heaven, but whoever practices and teaches these commands will be called great in the kingdom of heaven. 20For I tell you that unless your righteousness surpasses that of the Pharisees and the teachers of the law, you will certainly not enter the kingdom of heaven.]

quote:The Messiah was supposed to end all world wars, among many, many other things, NOT die for peoples' sins. Before 'Christ', the Jews were the only 'people of God', and their documents must've been the 'word of God', or else God lied to them simply because their messiah was yet to show up, which is ridiculous. Keep all that in mind.

Now.. why does the role of the messiah suddenly change when Jesus pops up? Is it because he never did any of the things the messiah was (or is) supposed to do, or because God lied? It has to be one of those things.

The Fulfillment of the Law

17"Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them. 18I tell you the truth, until heaven and earth disappear, not the smallest letter, not the least stroke of a pen, will by any means disappear from the Law until everything is accomplished. 19Anyone who breaks one of the least of these commandments and teaches others to do the same will be called least in the kingdom of heaven, but whoever practices and teaches these commands will be called great in the kingdom of heaven. 20For I tell you that unless your righteousness surpasses that of the Pharisees and the teachers of the law, you will certainly not enter the kingdom of heaven.


Jesus came to fulfill the Law, All of it!!! That means whoever beleives in Him and His Word will have his portion of the Law fulfilled.

[to interact with deceased loved ones and what not.]

Very well curious girl I wil respond to the direct question at hand.

quote:I have read many of my mom's old books regarding astral projection, and intrestingly enough a good portion of them deal with travel to the actual spirit world (heaven and hell? im not sure about this part hehe) to interact with deceased loved ones and what not.

Is this possible, and would this be done by "phasing" into the astral world instead of projecting into the real time zone buffer?

I will respond directly to the bold type to be more specific.

There are many places in the Bible which regard the state of the dead as being just that. DEAD.

14 They are now dead, they live no more;
those departed spirits do not rise.
You punished them and brought them to ruin;
you wiped out all memory of them.


31 " 'Do not turn to mediums or seek out spiritists, for you will be defiled by them. I am the LORD your God.


3 Now Samuel was dead, and all Israel had mourned for him and buried him in his own town of Ramah. Saul had expelled the mediums and spiritists from the land.

DO NOT ATTEMPT TO CONTACT THE DEAD UNLESS YOU ARE WANTING TO TALK TO DEMONS. THE DEAD ARE DEAD.

When men tell you to consult mediums and spiritists, who whisper and mutter, should not a people inquire of their God? Why consult the dead on behalf of the living?

[12The body is a unit, though it is made up of many parts; and though all its parts are many, they form one body. So it is with Christ. 13For we were all baptized by[3] one Spirit into one body--whether Jews or Greeks, slave or free--and we were all given the one Spirit to drink. 14Now the body is not made up of one part but of many. 15If the foot should say, "Because I am not a hand, I do not belong to the body," it would not for that reason cease to be part of the body. 16And if the ear should say, "Because I am not an eye, I do not belong to the body," it would not for that reason cease to be part of the body. 17If the whole body were an eye, where would the sense of hearing be? If the whole body were an ear, where would the sense of smell be? 18But in fact God has arranged the parts in the body, every one of them, just as he wanted them to be. 19If they were all one part, where would the body be? 20As it is, there are many parts, but one body. 21The eye cannot say to the hand, "I don't need you!" And the head cannot say to the feet, "I don't need you!" 22On the contrary, those parts of the body that seem to be weaker are indispensable, 23and the parts that we think are less honorable we treat with special honor. And the parts that are unpresentable are treated with special modesty, 24while our presentable parts need no special treatment. But God has combined the members of the body and has given greater honor to the parts that lacked it, 25so that there should be no division in the body, but that its parts should have equal concern for each other. 26If one part suffers, every part suffers with it; if one part is honored, every part rejoices with it. 27Now you are the body of Christ, and each one of you is a part of it. 28And in the church God has appointed first of all apostles, second prophets, third teachers, then workers of miracles, also those having gifts of healing, those able to help others, those with gifts of administration, and those speaking in different kinds of tongues. 29Are all apostles? Are all prophets? Are all teachers? Do all work miracles? 30Do all have gifts of healing? Do all speak in tongues[4] ? Do all interpret? 31But eagerly desire[5] the greater gifts. And now I will show you the most excellent way.]

quote:Allanon,
To which "branch" of the Christian faith do you belong?

12The body is a unit, though it is made up of many parts; and though all its parts are many, they form one body. So it is with Christ. 13For we were all baptized by[3] one Spirit into one body--whether Jews or Greeks, slave or free--and we were all given the one Spirit to drink.
14Now the body is not made up of one part but of many. 15If the foot should say, "Because I am not a hand, I do not belong to the body," it would not for that reason cease to be part of the body. 16And if the ear should say, "Because I am not an eye, I do not belong to the body," it would not for that reason cease to be part of the body. 17If the whole body were an eye, where would the sense of hearing be? If the whole body were an ear, where would the sense of smell be? 18But in fact God has arranged the parts in the body, every one of them, just as he wanted them to be. 19If they were all one part, where would the body be? 20As it is, there are many parts, but one body.
21The eye cannot say to the hand, "I don't need you!" And the head cannot say to the feet, "I don't need you!" 22On the contrary, those parts of the body that seem to be weaker are indispensable, 23and the parts that we think are less honorable we treat with special honor. And the parts that are unpresentable are treated with special modesty, 24while our presentable parts need no special treatment. But God has combined the members of the body and has given greater honor to the parts that lacked it, 25so that there should be no division in the body, but that its parts should have equal concern for each other. 26If one part suffers, every part suffers with it; if one part is honored, every part rejoices with it.
27Now you are the body of Christ, and each one of you is a part of it. 28And in the church God has appointed first of all apostles, second prophets, third teachers, then workers of miracles, also those having gifts of healing, those able to help others, those with gifts of administration, and those speaking in different kinds of tongues. 29Are all apostles? Are all prophets? Are all teachers? Do all work miracles? 30Do all have gifts of healing? Do all speak in tongues[4] ? Do all interpret? 31But eagerly desire[5] the greater gifts.
And now I will show you the most excellent way.

I was baptised by the Spirit and attend Evangelical Free Church. All "braches" of the Church are part of the Body of Christ.

However.

Those "brances" that continually reject the Word of God and its True meaning will be cut off from the Body of Christ like a branch that bears no fruit.

quote:yes, you have a point, peaceful warrior. there are plenty of people who believe in what the bible says, regardless of lack of historical proof (and even with proof that things could be wrong), but do not have such extreme, eerrr... ah, i can't think of a good word to describe it... psycho-fervor of hate-filled condemnation that this allanon person has. you can believe in everything that the bible says, without believing that everyone is going to the pits of hell for not believing in it, too. and you can believe in it without forcing it down everyone else's throat. and you can believe in it and still respect other's beliefs, too (which i'm sure is what jesus wants us to do... respect and love each other despite differences). perhaps allanon's case is one of extreme difference of interpretation of the bible, and perhaps some hardcore brainwashing to boot. either that, or allanon's playing a prank on us all.

I DO NOT hate any of you. WE ARE ALL EQUALS IN THAT WE HAVE A FALLEN NATURE AND ARE SLAVES TO SIN. God has a Way, One Way that is the True religon and it is found in Hid Word and in His Son.

I pray that the Light will shine into your hearts today and you put away your idols and self worship and give Praise to the pot maker not the pot.

Jesus Loves you and I have a sincere desire to help those that search for the Spring of Eternal Life. I Love all of you in Christ and Hope that you realize the illusions that the sinful mind can create. If you continue in your wicked ways than your mind will be intoxicated with the sting of disbeleif.

I mean no offense to any of you BUT GOD'S WAY IS GOD'S WAY NO MATTER WHAT THE WORLD TELLS YOU.

Satan has the power to deceive. Even with your so called "historical" evidence. The Bible is True and you can take it or leave it. But the fact remains that it is the ONLY God inspired book.

[Romans 15:1616to be a minister of Christ Jesus to the Gentiles with the priestly duty of proclaiming the gospel of God, so that the Gentiles might become an offering acceptable to God, sanctified by the Holy Spirit.]

quote:I will ask the unasked question: If you are so offended by the people on this forum, calling them Satanists and all, what are you doing here?

Romans 15:16
16to be a minister of Christ Jesus to the Gentiles with the priestly duty of proclaiming the gospel of God, so that the Gentiles might become an offering acceptable to God, sanctified by the Holy Spirit.

Romans 15:19
by the power of signs and miracles, through the power of the Spirit. So from Jerusalem all the way around to Illyricum, I have fully proclaimed the gospel of Christ.

Revelation 14:6
Then I saw another angel flying in midair, and he had the eternal gospel to proclaim to those who live on the earth–to every nation, tribe, language and people.

Colossians 1:23
if you continue in your faith, established and firm, not moved from the hope held out in the gospel. This is the gospel that you heard and that has been proclaimed to every creature under heaven, and of which I, Paul, have become a servant.

I hope this answers your question.