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There is a common theme though. The two sides are like this: those who rely on the predetermined networks of christianity and islam, and in there they are clouded with confusion (eventually, and more so when in exchange with those outside there network); and those who see everything as possible through determination, wit, and guile, they embrace and share their accordance, and build up the greatest network ever.
The simple fact is that with each degree we separate ourselves from our truest nature, that of which is wholesome and infinite, we degrade. When we break down barriers and allow a greater connection revelations occur, both positive and negative. Until there is an absolute universal clairvoyance, there is a need for revelation. Simply put, don't impede upon one's will or thought, results of which are disconnect and separation. We are completely capable of finding a solution through compromise, compassion, and perception.

Aren't crystals stronger if you intently and willfully utilize them all the time? I was thinking of getting a simple lemurian crystal; I just want to carry one around, because I'll have time to engage it.

yeah, a good question is what is like to be an essential being (spirits). I just watched alice and wonderland, and it's kinda like that. A spirit (created of thought) is glad to see that you (the creator of thought) are remembering and realizing yourself in their world(dream scape). This world(reality) is similar to a plane (a singularly-influencing absolute reality; S.i.A.R.) that is more heavenly and morally, spiritual and soulful, strong and superhuman, untraceable and  embraceable, clear and complete, essential and influential.

those suggestions r very helpful, I'll try it. I guess that's where my work has been leading me anyways!!

I felt some strong emotions from it, but not depression. It's more of a reality check. And I agree, people are too ignorant to realize how trapped they are, and how they can free themselves. I feel inspired from that movie.

Also, did anyone pick up on some of the interesting themes from the movie. Like being connected more with eachother, the earth, the past, the future and nature? Crazy concept for me, and I love it. Also, did you notice what the tree of souls area looked like from a complete aerial perspective? It turned up to be a big EYE! I loved that movie through and through!!

Good luck w/ ur successful zen meditation!! Keep it up. Hope u do well. What kind of meditation do you do?

I haven't experienced a legit OBE yet, but still feel like I'm on course with my spirituality. I can relate, I used to be impatient when I wasn't relaxing and trying to OBE. Now I feel more at peace and I feel more present in essence. I do smoke pot, and experiencing an intense euphoria always feels like that's similar to a OBE.

Last night, I only slept for 5 hours(I usually get 8.5), but i wasn't tired at all today, and I think it was because my euphoria put me in a deep meditative state, and I was feeling more energized. It's like my spirit is being utilized more, and processing energy and storing it better.

omcasey - i kinda feel like i'm coming into a new reality all the time. Like pioneering the unknown, coming upon a new age ... kinda like 2012, yet more realistic and personal.

Well i think discomfort can cause a more probable OBE, like when ur sick, or DIEING. or needing to pee. I've had half-lucid dreams where i'll be peeing ... also when i'm mentally and physically strained, I'll find my body doing weird things before sleep, like twitching and very vivid visualizations of the day.

I sleep in a loft bed, and since it is positioned high up and prone to wobbling, it usually makes noises when i move, sometimes not. Since a long time ago, when up on me bed, I would hear little rocking noises, like me bed was moving. Lately, I kinda looked into it a little more. I noticed once while doing me vibration work, it was shaking. I then later breathed heavily to shake bed, and it didn't. Also, that night me vibs increased like 10fold when raising chakra energy. Could these energies physically rock me bed like i would moving?

So if you feal like ur really rolling your physical body, does that mean u feal like ur sheats will move? I'll start plugging me nose =D

Ok, well i usually sleep in a loft bed, so what if i can't get out of bed easily?

Now when you say will yourself to sit, is that like thinking to yourself to snap like a mouse trap into the sitting position?

Good way to think about psychic abilities ... I was just mentioning that I felt like I have had psychic awakening, and like i noticed how every challenge in life is a hidden message, and i felt like i understood the principle of ying-yang more in the sense of ages, and how our species is perpetuated by balance, and restored for the sake of balance. Yeah it was a really trippy high. I need to ween off for a while, and practice more on obe's.

Kurty, do u wear orgonite pendant? JW, but do personal pendant's protect from direct psychic manipulation? I would think it would be more difficult.

I believe I'm experiencing a feeling of psychic ability, kinda like m. nightshamalon's signs, but because i'm really high. Has anyone ever felt like they're capable of chrono-kinesis/pyschic ability? What real world links exist out there?

Does anyone try to network outside of this website? I tryed doing some local searches, and searches on facebook, but was unsuccessful? I was just wondering if someone had like a dojo, or place of relaxation, that is specifically inclined to know about A.P. and OBE's. I would also like to sample some orgonite before i buy some, and thought a meet up could work. So please tell me of your circle of buddies who also know about this stuff and are interested in it as well.

actually i think it would be better to share where u live and if u know of any groups, meetings, or prominent public figures who endorse this.

I live in Portland Oregon and only have one friend who has similar experiences as I yet unaware of it till recently. Someone else got me started on researching APing. Both of these people are un-involved with others as much as I hope to become. I know of no existence of interest in this topic in Portland.

I want gain more awareness through spiritual re-vitalization so possibly i could utilize that to make positive changes in the real world, and then reaffirm that the steps i took were effective and universally applicable. Awareness=New Possibilities

Last year, my friend had a dream about a meteor destorying everything around her, and she was in a hotel, and then got up and saw the aftermath.

Hey kurty, how's the E.O.G. going? JW, where do you live?? Cuz i'd like to be a test subject.

I can manipulate time in my dreams pretty well. I always think it's cool when i'm doing it. But i also feel like i'm leaving my body and viewing time like a movie, and reeling it back or restarting.

Well the government doesn't control everything, so yeah. And sometimes you have to sacrifice somethings in order to keep your plans in motion. So the slow release of info is just a buffer which can't last. I'll be working towards independence and freedom of the individuals.

I'll have to read that book to get more indepth no my LD skills, even though i experience like one a week

Try having goals, set plans, and don't leave yourself inactive or disengaged from people, because that should create your path. Don't leave yourself stranded or you'll feel like a lost soul. The power of affirmation and choice does lead us. Make the best of your community, neighbors, culture, individuality.

Now we do come here for a reason, and I believe that is to put in something and take back, and that our spirit lives on as a symbol for all to learn from, and through our memories we are created back again, not from our own separate spirits, reincarnating, but the good impressions left on earth and in human conscience. That glorious, wonderful imagination/conscience is god; truth, value, moral, all the knowledge and tradition perpetuates and continues, while the failure to recognize our ability to make a difference, and destruction fades away.

what about singing bowls?? i found a thread on hear that mentioned them, and i googled them. Even the mp3 files of the real high class jars makes me feel energy in me chakras.

Do you eat a super healthy diet? Like going vegan, or eating hemp, chlorella, spirulina?? Just wondering if these food sources help either.

Also, where can you buy Himalayan salt?