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Beth, that post was incredibly enlightening. With that, Jewish scripture begins to sound less like a book of history and more like a philosophical doctrine similar to other mystical books of antiquity.
Considering those 'keys', the bible doesn't seem as anthropomorphically confused as it does with the wide scale interpretations of our day.

If you can read it, you get the awesome prize of..
knowing what it says.

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amazing you guys should get your panties in such a bunch over my post, which was mostly directed at DjM.

quote:Originally posted by Narrow Path

Hey Tab why not go somewhere else and spread your ignorance.

Have a little respect for people or get out of my thread.
If you have anything to contribute concerning the subject do so, if not GO TALK ABOUT MEDIUMSHIP OR SOME OTHER OCCULT CRAP.

Last I remembered this was a public forum and I had the freedom to have however much respect I or the administrators deem necessary. You should probably be grateful you still have the privelage of posting here, considering the number of offensive and hypocrytical posts to your name. Aside from that, I find it funny you should call me ignorant ESPECIALLY right above the sentance "GO TALK ABOUT MEDIUMSHIP OR SOME OTHER OCCULT CRAP.".
Same for you and your anthropomorphized history book.

Moving along...

quote:Originally posted by Passionate-fool


Apparently you feel it appropriate to call upon God and to use profanity in the same sentence.  I also noted how you attempt to present yourself as superior by removal of DjM's individuality.  Thus, taking away his uniqueness, making him "less" of a creature of God.

... scuse me?
First off, omgwtf and the many variations are part of my online vocabulary, mostly in parody of the many widely used internet acronyms such as that. If you have a real problem with it, take it up with a moderator.

I never presented myself as superior or DjM as inferior (not even gonna comment on the creature of god thing). I was mostly referencing the quote "there is no religion higher than truth", which is a memorable quote from The Key to Theosophy if memory serves me correctly. I'm sure he would have understood what I meant. Wow, esoteric theosophist communication and unintended at that! How crazy.

quote:Again, we have the use of God's name in vain and a ripping away of my personal uniqueness.  With the added bonus of belittlement.

sorry, but with all these generic christians popping up suddenly with a small post count and allanon changing names all the time, I'm just going to assume that they're all him. I mean you.

quote:I actually had to think for a good couple of hours to remember what theosophist meant.  I'm not quite sure I fall under your label on this one my friend.  As for arrogance?  I believe my post spoke for itself.

This part wasn't even directed at you. Last I checked, you weren't the one quoting Blavatsky. Sorry for the confusion, but no, I didn't see any indication that you were a theosophist, whereas DjM appears to be one and a damn good one at that.

quote:I really liked this one.  You actually BELIEVE in arrogance that is justifiable.

Uh.. yes. Theosophy contains a lot of supposed truths. If the truths are as they seem, the arrogance of real theosophists in having the keys to wisdom may indeed be justified and correct.




Sorry for being 'offensive', this is mostly my posting style on other forums. Maybe it's the wrong atmosphere for it, but don't be so grave about it. Yeesh.

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nooo Beth!
I sincerely hope I haven't contributed to your distress in this thread, but if I have, you have my apologies. I've really enjoyed your posts and appreciate your coming to this forum even for the short time it was.

Uh.. I don't think anyone here is an atheist buddy..

and stop making new names

quote:Originally posted by Xvirus

I just want power my friend

Oh, that's nice.

The only true books are those that claim wisdom through revealed truths and not through anthropomorphic history. The Vedas themselves may have exoterically been nothing but tales of anthropomorphized gods, but with the upanishads and the vedanta the introspective true meanings are put forth.
Real religion is about philosophy in existance, not mythical deities.

Your question is senseless as the astral has no solid definition to control.

lol.. you really think this is all a joke?
Kind of extraneous and not very humorous to make for a good joke

When I was out of body I saw my house as I would have in body
well.. there were those nifty glowing geometric shapes on my ceiling that aren't really there.. but anyway

quote:Originally posted by DjM

 there is no religion greather than truth.

omgwtf Blavatsky reincarnated

quote:Originally posted by Passionate-fool

A bunch of jesus stuff

omg allanon reincarnated.. again... with worse grammar.



Theosophists seem to be the more arrogant of their kind.. whether it's justified arrogance or not I couldn't say.
I can say that because I'm a wanna be myself

I was an adopted projector, not a natural one, so I was taught everything I knew to start with. However, I can definitely say that it pretty much shattered my understanding of the world. At first I was afraid of such an incredibly vast unknown suddenly permeating my (what I thought to be) known world, but it wore off. Now I just accept it all as if it's another normal part of life - which it is and should be.

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lol.. squeek.. that's great

This is a stupid question IMO. What if I consider Jesus a great spiritually powerful guy, then is that following him? Or do I have to worship him and submit to the services of the religion that claims to embody his teachings?
For all I know Jesus could have been a great initiate, so if I believe that, is it 'good enough'? Is shutting out our beliefs and prescribing to the Jesus path you're talking about any different than assimilating Jesus into our own path?

Well, if you really take a look at where all those different dogmas that lead up to conclusions like that come from, you'll find that a lot of it is unfounded and baseless rubbish, really. You'll find that there are religions other than Christianity that make sense (and IMO a lot more so), and Christianity slowly gets more and more ridiculous. Call it the devil working through other religions, but I'm pretty sure God gave us logic, or maybe not, but either way I trust my own logic before any deity that wants my foreskin for whatever purpose.
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quote:The Bible is NOT meant to be understood by one who is NOT an initiate- period. It is NOT meant to be read like a regular book, by design. In addition, we can not ask trivial questions and assume understanding through strong sentiments and dim feelings. One MUST pursue Spiritual development to earn the keys to unlock the door of understanding- there is no other way.

I love you too

quote:I take it that none of you believe in a Judgement?

I believe in only one thing that decides where you go when you die, and that's yourself. Based on the actions of your life, if overly positive and not spiritually counterproductive, you may as well go on through the cycle of death freely and happily. If your life has been weighted down by negative and material emotions, you could just end up roaming the (hellish) lower planes of existance until you are free of your stupidness and evils.
I guess you could call that judement, but not in the sense the church wants you to believe so that you'll subscribe to them.

RAWK

God. God is the source of everything, good and bad.
That is the definition of God.

Well I can't comment from experience, only what I've learned. But from that, AFAIK it has more to do with the quality of energy than the level of energy. If your thoughts are more clouded and your emotions more afflicted with lower desires and ideas, you're more likely to be in tune with a lower realm.
Conversely, noble thoughts and higher feelings will more often put you on a higher plane.

can Al be IP banned now?

There is one, and only one advantage to AOL. Dynamic IP. Try to haxz0r me and I just sign off and reconnect

I would call for Jesus to accept me into his loving arms.

Actually, assuming I was somehow still conscious for the last minute of my life, which is highly unlikely, since if you're in a situation where you know you're going to die soon, you usually don't just suddenly crap out in a second.
That said, in the time before my death, I would probably work to part with my material life, both mentally and with those close to me. I would try to start early at shifting my energy to my higher bodies through meditation and sleep and such, and look towards the progression and reascention into spirit that was about to come for me. Overall I think it would be a pretty theraputic thing after putting up with life here for however many years.

There is someone whom I think I would purposefully break my progress through the astral and higher just to wait for though...

Good to know someone actually came back from one. Thanks for the info Nita.

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quote:I can't even deal with the rest of your post, it's all the same, unsubstantiated, fallacious...stuff.

Kind of like christianity ey

quote:All I ask is that you provide some evidence, any evidence.

Innumerable amounts exist, one needs only to look to the paganistic religions of the time to see how sun worship became worship of the sun-christ, moon worship (and it's many deities) the worship of Mary. Christianity's roots are more than obvious - the Jews didn't buy Christiainity because their messiah was nothing like Jesus, so the focus was shifted to the gentiles. Hence the dispelling of the sacred foods, circumcision, adoption of pagan rites and practices, christmas, the fish symbol, the ascention, so on and so forth.

Robert is right in saying that the evidence is right there in the open to the point where it's just plain redundant to collect it here. As much of a cop out as that seems, you'll find it's true, and there is plenty of said 'evidence' already available on this board. Christianity on the other hand, needs no proof. Because you just have to have faith. You mustn't think for yourself.

quote:Anyone who has even very little knowledge of world religions would know that this statement is completely false. To say that "their messages are essentially the same," is to completely ignore what each religion is saying. Every religion is essentially exclusivist, whether it is explicitly stated or implied. In other words, either one religion is right, or they are all wrong.

That's laughable. Of course the institutions of each religion are exclusivist, but institutions are worth as much in truth as any political organization with that much power. The doctrine and esoteric meanings to every belief are fundamentally similar. After all, they all sprang from the same source ideas, whether you accept these ideas as enlightened truths of the gods or ramblings of ancient man. Aside from the origins, beliefs have been shared and intermingled to the point of indistinguishability between them. Pagan-christianity and chaldeo-judaism are two prime examples.
As Blavatsky states, "It is from the exoteric religions that we have to dig out the root-idea before we turn to esoteric truths, lest the latter should be rejected."


exothen - omgsymbolism!>?!?
Anyway, it looks like Al figured out how to use a proxy.