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quote:Originally posted by theNEO

Thank you for your help.  As, for you Ramiel, I will have to disagree with you on that.  I respect your OPINION but I disagree.  You can not question that there is a higher being at work.  Obviously, someone has put us here on earth.  You just question the authority of the church because you have not experienced God.  I suggest you go to chuch for it is YOU who needs to open their eyes.

Ok, enough of that.  I have another question.  What is the best way to project?  I usually get the vibrations, but I can not seperate.  Help please!

I couldn't tell you the best way for you to project because it's different for everyone.  First off ask your higher self or your spirit guide (preferably spirit guide) for help.  In case you don't know what a spirit guide or higher self is you can either ask me to tell you here or in a PM.  Anyways that is a big help but to do it yourself you have to relax and focus your attention away from your body.  It sounds as if you've got the relaxation down so to focus your attention away from your body you have to find your own way.  Some people do something repeatitive such as climbing a rope or going down a ladder.  However some people get bored that way so just keep your focus away from your body by thinking of yourself flying could be a more exciting way.  Whatever works best for you.  It takes practice.  Some people create a scenary and and ask for their spirit guide to come out of the shadows.  They then talk with their spirit guide untill they start to project.  Hope this helps.

First of all as far as the morality goes.  Some catholics would say it's evil but that is merely from ignorance.  In The Bible it talks about Jesus travelling spiritually being attached to his body with a silver cord (sound familiar?[])  At least that is what I heard from a very religious Psychic.  
As far as defence goes it is fairly easy.  You could will it away.  If that doesn't work kill it!  Will yourself to have a weapon or will your astral body to be some sort of ravenous beast.  Most of the time by the time you're ready to attack they'll run [].  I've personally never projected before but that's what I've heard. I wish they would stay around so us more agressive people could have some fun[].

quote:Originally posted by jc84corvette

quote:Originally posted by APGuy

If you have Kazaa Light then do a search for Holosync or Hemi-Sync.  If you don't have Kazaa Light then say so and I'll add you on MSN and transfer a few to you.  I haven't tried them yet but they seem to work.  I have a Hemi-Sync that is waves and stuff that's actually specifically for astral projection (not a brainwave.)  I also have an instructional mp3 for a technique that I could describe if you don't want the actual mp3.

Where do you get that? Does it keep the RIAA off your back? How are you sure of that?

I tried searching google many times but no luck.

Sorry about that it's spelled Kazaa Lite not Kazaa Light.  Yeah my understanding is the RIAA doesn't go on Kazaa Lite.  Kazaa Lite has some sort of thing on there that the owners didn't realize but it pretty much stops the RIAA from doing anything.  Plus the RIAA hasn't exactly caught on to Kazaa Lite it isn't quite as well known as Kazaa.

quote:Originally posted by Meedan

Do you think it's a good idea to use 'machines' or external means to have oobes? I'm trying to develop the abilities of my mind/spirit by doing it myself. My opinion is that the more we use things like this, the more dependent we become on external gadgets as opposed to becoming more "in-control" of natural things like oobes, awareness 'levels', brain frequencies etc.




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Well in my opinion the use of what's available is a great thing to learn.  Think of it this way, once you get out once or twice from a machine or external gadget you'll learn the way the process is for you and will better your ability in doing it yourself.  It really depends though, let yourself get dependant and you will.  Only use it enough to learn about it and then from there do it yourself.

If you have Kazaa Light then do a search for Holosync or Hemi-Sync.  If you don't have Kazaa Light then say so and I'll add you on MSN and transfer a few to you.  I haven't tried them yet but they seem to work.  I have a Hemi-Sync that is waves and stuff that's actually specifically for astral projection (not a brainwave.)  I also have an instructional mp3 for a technique that I could describe if you don't want the actual mp3.

quote:Originally posted by lostprophet

If it was reality, dudes in shades would have blasted the wachowski brothers years ago. Curb your enthusiasm, it's no more than a kickass movie.

I sincerely doubt that the matrix is reality.  However I also doubt that if it were real that dudes in shades would have blasted the Wachowski Brothers years ago.  What better way to make the percentage of the population think that something is just a story than making it into a huge movie?  Sure there would be a few that thought it was real but try to tell anyone and they would more than likely account it as a paranoid dellusion brought on by the movie.

I'm fairly sure there are people who have been attacked but don't worry about it.  You are travelling in an energy body and energy is indestructible.  Besides most things that try to attack you will run off if you stand up to them or even willing them gone can work.  So no worries.  I haven't ever heard of someone getting hurt during an AP.[]

quote:Originally posted by Graupel

is the word "neg" lingo for "demon, evil entity"?

Neg is an abbreviation for negative entity.

I would recommend that on any given website with a /forums/ suffix you remove the /forums/ to get to the main site and get the info.  In other words go to the main site www.astralpulse.com.  From there look down the main page until you find the treatise on OOBs.

No it doesn't.  Those are hypnagogic (if you were going to sleep) or hypnapompic (if you were waking up) noises.  Basically you dreamed them while you were awake.  Unless you were fully awake which would mean that yes you are crazy[].  Or maybe there's an explanation when fully awake that I don't know about.

I was looking around the net and Jonas Ridgeway says he saw through the eyes of a lady artist (seems she's moved on to comics[].)  Oh ya and I just realized that when I saw the other me rolling before I started moving there was stuff on my belt.  It might have to do with me trying to move into the comic book perhaps I was going to go to the astral proper and be the main character (Batman) with the utility belt[].  I don't really know what to think about this so if someone could try it out and maybe tell me what my experience sounds like (if it was just a hypnagogic hallucination or if when I saw myself I was starting to project.)  And also has anyone's astral body changed by going to a different locale?  That was a little... different.

I just started into 3d Studio Max 4.2 a day or two ago [].  I need some help so I'll add you to my list soon.  I also have a dog named Toby however he's a Jack Russel Beagel Terrier.  See ya on MSN.
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It seems as if you can reach the mind awake body asleep stage.  It took me two months of practice before I could do that.  But can't really help because I have the same problem.  I get to what at least seems to be the right state of mind that I've read of but still nothing.[V]
I also had memory of my dreams for awhile but that went away for me too.

quote:Originally posted by Kajz

maybe this is a question for noobs, forgive me... I am [:I] but I would like to know what the difference is between a lucid dream, and conciously enter the astral realm..

You're more awake when you're in the astral than when you're lucid dreaming plus the lucidity of a lucid dream happens after you've already started dreaming.  When you're lucid dreaming you realize you're dreaming.  When you're astral projecting you realize you are in fact on the astral and not "dreaming".  At least that's what I've heard.

Funny you mention music on the astral.  I was trying to project (haven't yet) and I heard music rather than a voice or sounds, which sort of surprised me.  It stopped cause I got surprised and when I started again I heard some more.
It had lyrics and what I remember them to be are ironically (because they probably were hypnagogic hallucinations, which are pretty much dreams while you're awake) to do with dreams and the fact that they're real and will some day be your life.  Weird wouldn't you say.  It was nice music.  So maybe that was a partial projection.  Doubt it though[].

Was it on the astral planes or the etheric plane.  If it was on the etheric plane then perhaps it was a future school where they get to view the past as if they were in it.  If it was on the astral plane then it was based upon thoughts so maybe there is a book about what I thought it might be on the etheric plane. []

My understanding is that you can project from a lucid dream.  And as far as the RTZ and astral goes just lower or highten the level of etheric energy you have.  Higher etheric energy outs you in RTZ.  As far as choosing which you go straight to I wouldn't know (haven't projected yet).  I think that's different for everyone.  For one if you do the method where you wait for hypnagogoic images and they become 3D make sure you don't do that for RTZ that makes a gate to the astral double of the image.  But if you do something like ROPE than I suppose that some energy work before you project could help.  Just do the mental hands pulling etheric energy into you and there you go.  That's the best I can do.[|)]

Thank you very much for your reply and I would also like to say I got some vibes the other night in my chest but it didn't spread.  I didn't freak out it's just something like what you said.  It's happening gradually to prevent me from freaking out.

I think that in the first experience you may have been projecting and most likely the second time.  I hope you have a great time here.  Oh and just figured I'd tell you that, as far as I know, someone or something going into your body isn't possible.  Your energy body has a kind of fingerprint to it that's not reproducable.  The closest thing to possession is sleep paralysis not kicking in if you come straight back to sleep and that could cause you to act out your dreams but I don't think that's possible either.  It could be but it's still very unlikely.  So no worries.  Oh and of course my average ending to newbs... If you project before me (conciously) no hard feelings...
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My understanding is that they are the same thing to a degree.  Dreams are in fact memories of sleep projections and the difference between dreams, lucid dreams, and astral projection is how awake you are.  But that's just my understanding.[]

quote:Originally posted by Zeke88

How long have you been trying?

About two months on and off and I'm extremely close now I can here my heart chakra beating when I try to project.  And I think I heard a voice in my hallway.  If you wanna read in more detail about my progression just look at some of the posts I've made recently in Animals Projecting and Almost There... I Think

Welcome.
I started out with energy work aswell.  I find it helps your visualization skills which can be quite useful.  Don't forget also that energy constructs can be physical on the higher planes.  Hope you enjoy your time here.  Oh and if you manage to project before me no harsh feelings...
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quote:Originally posted by Hephaestus

Im a little confused - are you trying to say that your dog astral projects and during projection your dog is sentient?

Well I belive that dogs are sentient (they want stuff such as toys which would suggest they're not entirely ran by instincts) and I'm sure he projects in his sleep, that's natural.  I was asking if he might project conciously and if anyone would think this is him.

I've heard stuff trying to project but I haven't projected yet either.  I heard a clock noise a weird low pitched buzz noise a high pitched buzz noise.  I even heard voices before.  Once as a child while waking up and once recently trying to project.  If you want you can read my post about the voices and the tick tock I heard last night at http://www.astralpulse.com/forums/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=7930

Thanks for the reply and I did realize that humans were animals but I wondered if other animals such as dogs project consiously and if that sounds to be the case here.  Also I forgot to mention that I heard a tick tock tick tock like a clock but the problem with it being a clock is the nearest non-electronic clock is down satirs and my room is no where's near the stairs.