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I'm developing a technique for use during SP state where I literally "listen" to them with my ear / cochlearis nerve / or brain or however, instead of telepathically. It's amazing if you really "hear" them in the literal sense. One told me her name recently.

Awsome!, objective clairaudiance  extremely powerful tool.
I tend to hear subjectively (in my mind) But I still recognise it as another minds stream of thought / words 

Like they say "ask and you shall receive"! 

The trick though is to be a good listener! 

Amen! But not to deter those who are expecting "direct voice communication"  we often receive inspiration from our inspirers in subtle ways, while day dreaming, mediation, dreams, signposts in nature, synchronicity, symbols etc )

Greetings ;o)
At the risk of making myself unpopular, I scanned through that question and the interesting answers proposed.
But I know that its far more simple than that.
Just ask.
Thats it simple.
All thought sent out to friends guides and helpers wether verbally or as thought or emotion are picked up and responded to in their own way. 

Just ask thats all you have to do.

Peace.

It will just be friends and helpers trying to let you know they are helping. They have most likely always been around, just that now you are becoming aware of them 

If it bothers you and it should not, but if it does then just politely ask them to leave. 

Hi i am asking what would happen to my consciousness if i did suicide. Will i ocupy a better reality then the one i am currently liviing in on earth rate now, or would i sink to lower density realities, that are more hellish and harder then this, please tell me. Or would i have a choice were i would go next

Hi Friend, it's an interesting question and I mean this respectfully, but Although we might have some informed theoris, I don't believe anyone here knows the real answer.
I have been suicidal in the past but I learned that its a very strong NO to life. We can't actually die so we eventually have to work out our problems.
The great thing is there are professionals that we can all talk to if we need and before you know it the world feels like a wonderful and safe place again.
Your stronger than you realise I'm sure and remember that how ever hard life gets "this too shall pass"

Go and see a professional and talk about your thoughts there. I have no doubt you will be glad you did.

Blessings

you mean after school hours every day? I go get a drink in the astral   LOL

Cool see ya there 

If your goal somehow gets achieved the way you plan it, this school will be closed and the students released without given the chance to finish their education. They entered this school by choice, knowing the difficulties that were set up ahead of them. They picked the classes that best suit their needs of development. The so called "evil" is just a tool, nothing more.

So erm, I wondered..what you doing after school ?  LOL

Great post 

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Well thank you, it was from the heart 

I tell you what, if you have been to see them its pretty incredible. YOU cannot even begin to imagine the sheer scale of them.

They are HUGE!!! and each block of stone is huge. Its makes it impossible to imagine how they could have ever built them.

And its like 45 degrees ! LOL  

Before i head out the door, can any of u guys try things for me, n see what happen, last night i have gotten out, and tried pounding on the higgs field, but the higgs field dident move or budge , it was like pounding on a steel wall , also please tell me what u guys experiance on the attempts.

I might suggest you go and have a holiday or something. I think you might find more joy when you come back to AP later. We all have eternity to perfect ourselves.

Regards.

I have been doing this for years, i have not used this furom to learn, i learned on my own and was doing it before i discoreved this furom i need help changing reality so we dont have to live through evil experiances any more, not feel hate, pain, sorrow, saddness, all the negative things the ocupy are space i wish to change. I have been out of body so many times i cant count, and also updated post, thank you very much

Wel its an admirable and worthy cause.
Buddhist and many other spiritual systems have been working towards enlightenment and the end suffering in their own lives and bringing peace and joy to all sentient beings...which in turn adds power to our collective consciousness.
This world does have its balance of negative energy of course. But it serves its own purpose, since it is a physical world we can choose to come here to experience our own limitation and grow through our experiences of suffering, most of which is caused by our own ignorants.
It might be argued that it is slowly working since there is less war and conflict now than there has ever been in our known history. But we still have a long way to go.
We have to remember that all people have their own responsibility and we cannot save everyone.
We have to do our best and lead by example. Gandhi wisely said be the change you want to see in the world.

All we can do is work on our own spiritual progress and send prayer and thoughts of love and kindness to others and the planet and when we are ready to share our wisdom people will be drawn to our light and ask for teachings.

Nameste 

Hi,

Well it may well be your own higher self, thoughts of your soul.
Or it maybe spirit friends, testing if you can hear bits from them. Either way its good and nothing to worry about. keep living life normally and see how it unfolds. Maybe try writing them down.

Kind regards.

Lots more tips to consider.
I sadly couldn't keep the pesky school kids under control but the glass of water and candle worked great.
Continuing the meditation and phase sessions with moderate progress, If I manage to stay sharp and
focused when I hit the images/visions/scenes/ then the session becomes intensely relaxing for the
brief time I'm aware.

After watching a video Mart1in posted I decided to start setting an alarm at 8am. Seems If I begin meditating
immediately on waking up I can sense the vibrations about to start after 5-10 seconds. Unfortunately,
I keep getting excited due to how awake I feel as oppose to other experiences.
Must remember to "ALLOW" and "Surrender", as Lionheart often says. So damn hard though when you're seconds
from blasting out of you're body totally awake

Thanks for the tips so far guys ;0

Haha great stuff, if it helps any it took me a while to keep the kids in line. But now ive mastered it ) keep up the great work and remember theres no rush 

This is a great thread. I have not read a lot of the suggested works because I do want my interpretations influenced by others yet. I know this leads to a lot of questions that have been answered countless times and could even threaten Gandhi's patience so I want to thank everyone here for that.

With that said, I am quickly losing most of my preconceived religious beliefs. This is a little troubling but I'm fine with it because it's happening through my own experiences. In fact the opposite is more disturbing when I think of how much misery is in the name of whatever....

I do not want to influence anyone else either as these types of revelations are life changing, but I want to pose a question here that is still troubling me. 

If we are all here to learn and grow and there is no single higher being that is waiting to judge us as there is no true good or evil, only our individual interpretations of such, what does that say about Hitler? I know a lot of people kept their sanity by believing he was being punished in unimaginable ways. And he may well be, but if this punishment is all subjective, does he actually deserve to experience no discomfort at all in the next reality if he instantly understands this and is therefore able to progress "higher" quickly?

HI, first off congratulations, on the fact that old ides are falling away and being replaced by your own revelations. For me the the saying we can live without religion but not god sits very comfortably with me. Ironically we often find as we progress spiritually, we tend to the see and understand much of the spirituality within religious teachings that have been long misinterpreted along the line by so many. Spiritual teachings are often only really understood after we have gained the knowledge ourselves, they then provide a confirmation of your evolving understanding as apposed to teaching you. The teachings can only point the way, you have to discover it first.
As for hitler you pose an interesting question and I believe Lionheart makes a valid point. Im sure some people come into this world as a catalyst for change. With out suffering we would not seek to evolve, so suffering it self is essential at some level and ultimately serves a purpose in the scheme of things.

One idea on the existence of good and evil that I like is that which is suggested by the great hindu sages who had attaind the christ consciousness. Since prior to the world of form there was just pure divine consciousness and space. God had to create form out of the non physical. The only way that could work was through creating a duality (the holy ghost, the christ consciousness, spirit) For form to manifest there has to be a positive and a negative, the intelligence and power of growth and the decay, the good and bad, the happiness and sadness. Happiness and sadness both exist on the same frequency of emotion and one can very quickly turn into another. That is why the Buddhist try to take the middle road and avoid extremes of anything, but seek the bliss of enlightenment and freedom from the trap of the the ego and form...there for escaping the dream of this world we fall into.
I believe this a fantastic place to learn and grow since it is here that we experience limitation, that causes us to dig deep spiritually in order to over come our challenges and in doing so build the quality of our mind and light that will create our surroundings and our experience of the next world  in other words we have personal responsibility and freedom of will. I believe Jesus was a wonderful enlightened saint who came to lead as an example. Probably the best psychic and medium in the past 2000 years.But his teachings will (just like many religions) have been lost in time and translations and most likely misunderstood in the first place. The first version of the bible was not documented until 70 years after Jesus left this life. Either way I cant see how one person/deity can absolve us of our sins. Only we can do that. We craet our own heave here and in the life after. My two cents for the day, LOL,  Regards 

MBT says that "it's all probabilities". 

Hahahaa! I like it, I was expecting a bit more than that...but if thats it thats 

It's funny, but Tom Campbells mbt answers this question readily. 

What does he say xanth ?

Brilliant !! More people should be out doing that ! I can understand you feeling a little embarrassed as I probably would to, but I love it seeing people not care what others think and find it very freeing and liberating. I've found people talking to themselves, singing, meditating on a Public beach, a bunch if people praying to the sun naked behined some rocks ! But all of it made me smile. Keep doing it !

Another excellent technique is focusing on  a flame.

This is a great video to aide you with that. It's actually the first technique I ever used. The first time I used it, I felt the vibrations and AP sensations.  But I had to stop because the loud Astral sounds were scaring the Bejeebus out of me. 

  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P3M-LuTRfcI

Awesome ! Will take a look thank lionheart

By the way a couple of ways of training focus is to imagine a glass of water and hold that image.

Also imagine you are controlling a gang of school children skipping through a maze singing nursery rhymes. When you want them to stop do so when you want them to start or turn left or right do so after a while you should gain complete control over their movment and singing. Have fun ! Lol

Ahh ! I see ! (Said the blind man) now this will sound strange as I'm going to give you two things that are opposite to try but both work in their own way it just depends what the aim is.

When we want to move into a trance state, as we follow our breath with the intention of quiteing the mind we pass through several stages that after a while you will recognise. One of the best ways to know you are in the right path is when random thoughts appear. As they appear acknowledge and let go, just acknowledge and let go. Focus on the now more subtle feeling of your body and breath. Next you will start to move through a phase if intuition, that might appear as emotions, symbols clarity over a situation you have worried about, etc. Again acknowledge and let go, acknowledge and let go. Then we move into where we get mediumship or symbols given to us by spirit guides and helpers. Now a choice here can be again acknowledge and let go if we want to go deeper OR begin to follow the symbols and allow your helpers guide you into it as you watch the pictures visions and feelings unfold. BUT watch and follow without getting caught up in it. Takes practice but after a while you should easily recognise the stages.

Hope it helps, peace x

Tom Campbell says you see what you need to see.

By seeing what you saw it drew you even further into your current path in life, which was the true purpose all along!

This is why when I Phase, I don't set any intention on a particular destination. I just ask to see what i need to see and learn what I need to learn.

Except, yes, once in awhile, I do just go and lay on the beach. But this is usually when I am either in extreme pain or just need to relax for awhile.

Many times this in itself leads to some kind of adventure. 

Nice, that actually resonated through my belly as I read that in a yes how true ! Kind of Goose bump way, but then I have just been meditating. But yes that makes sense and very profound for me personally as u was just meditating on what my soul wants me to excipience and learn ! Thanks lionheart

It matters a great deal, because if it's outside our minds, we can't alter
reality in the same way, as it's externally to us.

We have to plan our actions differently.


It still leaves a lot more questions, than if it was just an alteration of your state of mind.

If you really think it was reality changing at molecular level, who initiated it?
How was it done on every every molecule, who restored it and how was
physical matter restored?


You sure were two cool persons. I would have shlt my pants.

Anyway, I have to give you credit for those details as they talk in favor of your theory.

Hi Pauli, I still don't know the real answer but it makes some sense to me. Re shitting our pants, we did to begin with when everything started moving!!! When I got up and got the drink it made us both laugh at what had up until then been a seriously mad intense and slightly unnerving experience !!

While we are here, are you familiar with Aports ? Where the spirit people who have gained the skill are able to de materialise objects ie flowers, ornaments, etc and remainifest them at another location. I have wittinessed it only a couple of times. Even branches off a tree coverd in cherry blossom had been dropped into a seance in the depths of winter! My friend still has a scar on his hand from here a feather was apported bro the room and his hand was so close to the medium it left burn marks on his hand. I had a saint Christopher given to me in a seance. It literally fell out if thin air. The reason I mention this is that it might be a reasonable example of how things can be dematerialised into non physical matter then relocated as solid matter agian and that included a organic living things !

P.S I do realise its hard to believe..but I swear on my own mothers eye sight that what we saw.

I can only reach the conclusion as a result of my experience, but I don't expect everyone else to have the same belief or thinking. Im also open to the idea that one day ill have a new understanding of it, but until then .. :-

But something more must have happened, to make you think this way?

Because you could as well just have entered an altered state of consciousness,
similar to the reality fluctuations people experience in the RTZ. Why do you
think it was physical reality which dissolved and not just you, who moved
into a nonphysical world, while physical reality still remained unchanged
on Earth (in Spain)?

I guess the walls, tables etc were not gone forever once your state of mind
returned to normal?

What did make you draw the conclusion that physical reality was an illusion,
which dissolved in front of your eyes and not just you and your friend
entering an altered state of consciousness, being temporarily
somewhere else?

Was there something which induced your altered state of consciousness,
something like meditations or drugs?

Well I can tell you that was enough...to see it first hand. I have to ask what would be the difference if it was our joint perception or an objective change? Either way it showed us that physical matter is not solid as we might believe it but subject to change either at a molecular level or by a shift of consciousness that can perceive its true nature or another version of its true nature. Both point to the same conclusion, physical matter is an illusion.

I am now a working psychic and spiritualist medium. So in my work I will see clairvoyantly that which others are not seeing. Had we both being seeing through clairvoyance im sure with no doubt there would have been discrepancies, but we both witnessed it exactly the same, so that points to the phenomena being of a physical nature. But again even if it was through clairvoyance, it points to the same reality. Its just either perceived via the eyes or the mind...is one more real than the other?
Also through clairvoyance that which we perceive objectively or subjectively in our mind would not be fixed in location ie it would shift with our minds. But instead it continued to happen there at one area of the room..and was still going on after I got up walked through the mist into the kitchen got us a drink and came back and sat of the sofa and continued to watch the show...at which we both laughed out loud !!

No drugs but we had just had a curry... from Roys Pizza and Indian take away.

What do you base this theory on, what kind of experience?

Hi Pauli, good question.
Through my own evolvement now and also my personal experiences before I took an active interest in the subject.

Ten years ago I was in spain and a friend and I witnessed the physical matter in her house shift vibrate and dissolve into a cloud of mist!! the walls, tables chairs, etc all wobbled visually, vibrated and disappeared! We were then privileged to be greeted by a half hour display of spirit people manifesting in the room enshrouded in a mist of purple and gold light.
SOUNDS FAR FETCHED I KNOW, but that is exactly what happened.
You don't know me but I don't do sensationalism, I like to work with facts and reason. Im sure many people might doubt my experience but we both saw it all happen in broad daylight and needless to say it blew our minds and was initially quite unnerving. More to the point we had first hand experience of the FACT that this world is not solid matter but something else. For maybe a year after I frequently saw the floors and walls shift but didn't want to see anymore so would go and occupy myself with something else.
I have now been meditating for some years and through the evolvement and attunement of my mind I am very much more aware of the make up of reality.
Since then I have discovered what many people here will know, that every scientist and physicists the world over agrees that our world is not of solid matter but of particles of energy vibrating at a frequency that gives our five senses the illusion of being solid. Something mystics and religious gurus have known for thousands of years. Even colour has been proven to be a subjective experience. I know that personally as one of my eyes sees slightly different colour from the other.
Whn i have vistid the spirit world in OBE that too appears to be just as real as this one, juts brighter, cleaner, more radiant. But I know that it also is just compatible to our senses and entirely subjective.

Maybe that day in spain, both my friend Zoe and I were privileged to have our minds some how shift to a space that allowed us to look beyond the illusion of matter for a short time, no doubt enabled and facilitated by those who wished to manifest on that day. UNLESS those who visited were completely responsible for the adjustment of matter. Im sure they played their part but either way, physical matter is an illusion, I KNOW THAT !