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I have seen giant spiders a few times and some multy coloured ones also
I just stay away from them lol

:NoY:

Was that while out of body completely, awake fully, or half awake? I'm just curious.. my wife seems to be more in tune with those types of things judging from other experiences she has told me about from when she was a child. I do believe she mentioned the colors of this one looked almost cartoonish... like I think more red than black but wierd not like a real one.

I am not able to explain about the spiders.  Perhaps you were half a sleep.  Whatever it is, you and your wife know that they were not real.  I would try to forget about the spiders because if it is on your mind you are likely to see them again and you would be worrying about it.

We are not worried about it, we just want to know how many others have experienced this and what people think it was. I was sound asleep and saw nothing and she swears she was awake and had just gotten in the bed.

I remember that someone termed them "astral wildlife".  LoL
I forget which author that was.

But, in effect, I don't think they're objectively "there"... I've seen many things ranging from spiders to bugs to snakes.  I think it's the same kind of phenomenon as what people call "dweller on the threshold", except instead of a "being" or "person", it's a "creature" of some kind.

I first heard that term from Robert Bruce.. Not sure if he was the one who coined it.

Hi guys, so I posted one of my wife's strange experiences from about a year ago.. Now here is an experience she had 2 weeks ago.

Just as a background, unlike me, she has not studied or cared about astral projection her whole like or at all. She told me that at night when she was sleeping, she found herself floating over her body and looking down at it. She said that she was facinated at ow her body looked cause it did not look like her physical body. When she described it to me, I knew she was talking about her ethereal body. She described that her face looked sort of bluish with a slight glow and its like she saw just she details of her face but not the whole thing.. She also mentioned she looked younger. She said that she was not dreaming because everything was so real.. And she has heard me talk about astral projection before many times so she began thinking that maybe that what was was happening. She also said she was worried she had died at one point also.. The whole time while staring at her body and trying to figure out what was going on for sure. She said that she felt as though she was being pulled slowly and lightly towards her body but was trying to stay out. She also said that she heard a male voice to one side of her saying "hey! Hey!" i asked her if she saw anybody and she said that she did not look because she was too fixated on her ethereal body. So I guess whatever was calling her, she just ignored it... Anyways soon after that she ended up being slowly pulled back in and opened her eyes and it was over.

I asked her if the voice sounded bad and she said no, it just sounded like a male voice speaking normal. I wonder if that was an actual entity, or just an exit side affect,, but it is my understandng that voices and wierd distracting sounds are normally heard during the exit and hat after you actually exit, those go away which makes me wonder who this was that was calling her!

Anyway, i probed her trying to get any and all info I could and I am jealous because she did this without even trying when I havent been able to yet haha. The thing that makes it worse is even though she says it was amazing,, she doesnt seem to care enough to actually concentrate on trying to do it intentionally which I just cant understand. Anyways I just wanted to share this and I for one, hope she has another spontaneous AP so she can tell me all about it. I told her next time to try to look at my body..

Ps. She was asleep on the couch and I was in the bed.. She sleeps on the couch temporarily to be close to our newborn son.

Hi guys.. I wanted to post an experience that happened last year with my wife. I have hever heard of astral spiders before this happened but afterwards it seems that many people have seen these, just not sure if they saw them the same way my wife did.

My wife went to bed one night late after i was already asleep.. I have a huge fear of spiders but she doesn't. According to what she told me, she came and got in the bed while awake.. While getting comfortable in the bed she sat up and looked over at the wall next to my side of the bed. She swears that she had not yet fallen asleep and she saw a GIANT spider on the wall.. One that is so big I am sure it doesnt exist in the physical world. She said she looked at and got scared because she thought i was going to see it and freak out. She said the spider started crawling towards me but then disappeared in a black myst of smoke. She said it was black and red.

So once she told me this the next day, i researched it and found alot of people have seen these while trying to AP. The thing I wonder about is, how did she see it if she was by her on statement, fully awake.. And not trying to AP? My thoughts are that she somehow tapped into her third eye and maybe saw this thing in the astral realm?

I also have thought that maybe these astral spiders are not actual entities or astral wildlife but, but manifestations of a persons fears since many people are afraid of spiders. But since she isnt and I am, could she have been seeing something that my mind manifested?

I'd like to hear any experiences you guys have with these things and what your thoughts are on this situation.
I have woken up in the middle of the night before or early in the morning, opened my eyes and swore i saw a spider next to my pillow on many occassions. Usually it results in my jumping out of bed screaming and slapping my body, but not being able to find the spider and going back to bed. Whenever i wake up i usually have barely any memory of this but i have enough to not know if It actually happened, or if i dreamed it. I know that it happened because my wife has been in bed and witnessed me jump out of bed acting crazy and barely able to talk, then just collapsing back into the bed. But the spiders i have seen have not been massive like the one she saw.

So I laid down on my bed in the dark.
I began repeating in my head "I want to Astral Project..." Over and over again
Then I cleared my mind(A random thought would still appear but I shrugged it off and kept going)

Then began to count my breaths
Sometime later, I felt tingly sensations all over my body
And a slight pressure on my chest.

Were those the vibrations?

I kept counting more.
Then I imagined rolling out of my body and flying upward to look at my body.
I kept doing this for a long period of time.
And over the time, the sensation increased.

I had to get up because my cat broke my concentration.

Was I about to project?
What do I do when I reach these "vibrations"

Congrats! This is about as far as I got a ling while back when i was conciously trying to AP. my problem is I heard felt the vibrations and got too excited and amazed at that fact, then blew it lol. With me, in addition to the feelings, i heard the buzzing in my ears and would describe it more like a static sound that slowly gets louder and goes along with the vibrations. But like someone else here said, you could experience something different next time.. i think the biggest thing is to just relax and keep your mind clear other than whatever technique you are using to get out at the time... And just go with it. Oh yeah and kick that cat out of the room before hand haha. I wish you much luck and happy travels.. Looking forward to hearing about your first AP!

Hi guys,

I have been researching Moldavite and think I may have found a place near my work that would have it. I am going to try to go pick some up after work and I am very excited to see what happens with it. I have never explored crystals and stuff before but alot of people swear by it and apparently is has been proven to actually have energy.. a friend of mine is a gemologist and said that quartz watches actually have energy in the quartz that regulates the time which I always had heard of quartz watches but never really knew it had actual quartz in it that did something like that. I also know that diamonds give off heat so its not so far fetched to think crystals could have power. I honestly have always thought this stuff was mumbo jumbo but I am starting to become very open to these types of things.. so we'll see what happens if I can get it.

Ps. Holy crap... Inexpensive?? I got the smallest piece of moldavite for $44got a small piece of amethest for $18 also... I hope it will be worth it im putting them both under my pillow tonight.

i have tried many a of them but i still fail i either fall asleep or get to uncomfterble. i remember when i was 6 i focused on a body part and was dreaming at the same time... every time i did this i got a falling sentation and the same dream.... today i cant do that anymore

I too have that problem with falling asleep and used to be more successful when younger. I starting to try again though... I used to have alot of luck with hypnosis that I recorded on a tape recorder and played back. For some reason, it just helps me relax more when somebody else it telling me too lol. Good luck

Ascension as in ascending to a higher conscious state of being without physically dying?

Not ascending to heaven without dying...

Well either way hopefully will be a good thing if it happens

LOL weird.. I thought more people were into astral projection and such believed this.. So let me ask, what do you all believe the ascension (if there is such a thing) actually means?

Spark, you make some good points here but I just wanted to say that Robert Bruce has said and written that while there are negative entities out there, they cannot hurt you.. Only scare you. The worst he says that could happen is your energy being drained since he believes it is a copy of you not your actual ethereal body, it doesnt actually hurt you.

He also says you cannot have your cord cut or die or get lost... Or have a negative entity jump into your body. I think these are the main things people worry about that have all been debunked. After all, we are all enternal beings... These bodies may die but our souls will never.. Which goes along with that scientific saying that energy and information can never cease to exist and matter cannot either, it can only change forms. Just my thoughts on it

did you not watch the video?

they belive the physical world will become an astral planet

:NoY:

Yes good way of putting it lol... Out of curiosity.. What would you call people who believe this?

What exactly does one believe they are "ascending" into?  O_o

The 5th dimension... Check out the video and let me know what u think.. This ascension idea is pretty wide spread from what i am seeing online.

Hi Unknown,

It sounds to me like you are doing very well so far.. you have gotten to a state where it is easier to get to the state right before exit.. you just have to go with it now. All of the sounds, and scary things that you may feel when its about to happen just keep you from completing the exit. From my understanding, all of these things are just symptoms and go away usually once the exit is complete. I'm not sure why these things happen.. one would wonder since it seems to happen to everyone at some point, if it isn't somehow telling us to NOT astral project.. like as if it is some type of alarm system in place.. but I feel strongly that isn't the case. I think if anything it is your vibrations shifting through different frequencies while exiting, almost like a dial on the radio that goes through static, then a station, more static, another station until you finaly find that clear station you are looking for.

The fear thing can be hard to get past, I have been working on that myself.. but I'm getting better. I have heard also to try projecting during the day rather than night.

Good luck!

Cool descriptions.

I and other people go partially deaf every time we enter the Sleep Paralysis state. This is because of the little bones in the ear. They are there to help dampen loud noises... you may be able to tense them making them rumble. When you yawn is a good example of these muscles at work.

When we are in SP or REM... our ear muscles dampen external sound and vibrate... Sleep experts don't know why. Some think it is to create an environment for dreaming.. .leaving the dreamer able to still hear noise to alert them yet not enough to influence the dream. Why? Who knows.

Whether this is connected I don't know. Maybe.

I have always noticed while dreaming that I can hear still what is in the real world but yes it is dampened alot.. but this is like going from hearing the ambient noise of the fan, to suddenly hearing NOTHING and being totally deaf. You don't realize you are hearing the ambient noise until its done... it is a very eerie feeling to me which is what really caught me off guard. Alot of times when I was a kid, I would know the power went out when asleep cause of a fan stopping.

I always get deafness when I am out of body. I use a fan sound to judge if I am in or out of body. If I can't hear the fan sound in the background, then I am out of body. It is a simple way for me to know.

Wow thats amazing to know! I had always heard that senses were multiplied out of body so I thought maybe you would hear more. Thanks for telling me this.. I wonder how many others are the same.

I recommend try the Moldavite, I had some very vivid and 'memorable' dreams with Moldavite some time ago. It is also recommended as a 'dream enhancement stone' in literature (e.g. Book Of Stones or Crystal Bible). I even came to call them "Moldavite dreams" as they seemed to have a flair and 'texture' of their own to them, they were also very long and had useful 'messages'. When I did not use Moldavite I did not have these kinds of dreams. So there is some degree of observation in what I say.

Furthermore, there were also 'energetic' effects with this kind of crystal when wearing it. E.g. when meditating with a Moldavite each in both hands, my fingers and then hands 'started to vanish' suddenly or they started to send out 'pulses', it wasn't my own blood pulse - of this I am sure.

When I wore it around my neck on my heart (chakra) I started to feel its energy, sometimes chilly or sometimes 'electric' and I even had to take it off again as it was too strong and disturbed me. A similar effect I only had with my Astrophyllite so far.

At the moment I don't use them since I concentrate more on projection and I did not find in my trials  (contrary to what some experts say) that it is also stone for lucid experiences (OBEs). So I try other stones for that (or do it without). But all of these are just my personal findings.

If you like just give it a try, they are not expensive. It might work for you. Hope it helps.  

Besides the internet, where would I find these type of stones, crystals, etc? Like what type of shop should I search for... new age? Sorry I just don't know what the proper term would be for this type of stuff lol.

Hi all,

I posted this experience a while back mixed in with another post but never really got any response to it, so I want to post it again and build on it with what has happened since then.

Last year, basically I was reading about AP and had tried a little to do it before bed one night recently.. I had dream that seemed pretty normal and wasn't ghost or AP related. It was something to do with repairing house.  All of a sudden in this dream, I was in a truck and the truck started moving back and forth on the ground sideways.. Like sliding.  I remember a few family members outside of the truck and I yelled that it wasn't me doing this. The dream turned sort of scary at that point and there seemed to be a ghost or something in the house that I assumed was doing this.  I suddenly got pulled out of the truck through the window and high into the air. Maybe 50 feet or so.. I looked down and saw the ppl I mentioned earlier looking up and what I now think was my body laying on the road on its side.  Once I reached about 50 feet quickly.. I sort of went weightless.

I have a fan next to my bed that blows hard and make alot of noise. I know from lucid dreaming that I can hear thhings like that in my dreams and also the TV etc.  The funny thing is I guess you don't notice it until it stops... While in the air everything suddenly went silent and was sort of startling... Like I had went deaf.. And I suddenly and quickly fell to the road.  The weirdest I remember hitting the ground but seeing myself and specifically my face, laying on the road on it's side.  When I hit the ground I woke up with a very loud snore and I heard the fan again..my hearing had returned.  My dreams normally fade away from my memory within minutes after waking..l but this one is one I will remember for a very long time with no effort which i also think is weird.  I find myself wondering if this was an AP within a dream and if some of the dream imagery was mixed in or something..

The biggest thing that is weird about this to me, is the sudden deafness... this was the most real thing about it to me and then later, I had it happen again.

The 2nd time which happened a few months later, I was in an elevator with some people I worked with at the time, the elevator fell from very high up and it was a glass elevator so I could see that it was falling. I went weightless again and everything went silent as before.. I remember looking around and thinking, this is it I am going to die... I was afraid and then suddenly woke up.

I feel like this was a projection that sort of happened but my fear and not understanding that at the time, snapped me back in and I woke up. I am waiting for another thing like this to happen so I can try to just let it happen and see where it goes..

Has anyone else experienced a sudden deafness during an exit or afterwards?

-Trea

Hi everyone, I don't think I ever posted a hello here but either way its been a while since I initially registered on the website. I guess I would consider myself more of a researcher than an actual projector since I have only come close to projecting consciously a few times but never actually had a FULL experience. I have felt the vibrations, heard the buzzing, had some manifestation side effects from partial exits, etc.

I have been reading about/researching OBE and lucid dreaming for probably over 20 years and consider myself much more successful at lucid dreaming, although it doesn't happen much anymore but I want to change that soon. I got frustrated at one point (with OBE) with getting so close but not actually being able to get out, and kind of put it aside. But no matter what, I always seem to come back to it later.. its like an obsession or calling that I have.

So while I have not just yet explored the astral consciously, I feel like I may be able to atleast help people out that are new to the subject with some of the info I have picked up over the years from books by Robert Bruce, Robert Monroe, along with info I have gotten from people on youtube and great people on here sharing their experiences. So hopefully I don't offend anyone by trying to chime in on threads with some of my third party knowledge.. I promise it is nothing crazy that would enrage everyone here like that you can die from projecting lol.

Anyway, I also was wondering if anyone else is from LA and knows of any group meetings that occur on these subjects.. I really feel a need to meet more people who are into this lately and don't really know how.

Take care everyone and hope to chat with you all soon, happy travels!

Trea

try supplements: B-Vitamins combined with Lecithin

try crystals (under pillow or around neck during sleep): Amethyst, Moldavite, Astrophyllite could do the job, but there are some more recommended on gemstone advisory sites, just check them out

I have heard about different crystals and pendants etc that are supposed to have energy or change your energy.. honestly I have never believed in those type of things but I am starting to come around to the possibility of at least trying it. Thx I will check that out.

Hello,

i have had only 2 astral projection in my life. i was a kid about 12 years old laying in my bed thinking about my day. after that i decide to imagine my self going to sleep and after 30 mins or so i imagined my self leap out of bed and i was suddenly on the ground... thinking how did i get down here so i kept calling for my mom about 4 times very loud and she didnt come so i was freaking out. i did see some dark shapes in my closet but i really didnt pay attention to that. so after that i looked at my bed i zapped back into my body.

The second experience i had didnt last to long, but here it is. i was having a lucid dream at night. i didnt have the covers on. so i was dreaming i was in a dark and hellish place. i met this demon and then i suddenly saw my self falling into this dark deep hole and right after that happened i tried to move my body but it didnt work i paniced a little and since it was not working i tryied to imagine opening my eyes and i saw the thing on top of me at this point i was panicing like crazy because it looked like he was doing something. so after the 2 seconds i opened my eyes and was in my body and i swear i almost sh** my pants.

my questions are why cant i astral projected?
do i have to focus on a body part and wait for it to happen or something???

The fact that you say you already have is a step farther than most. I have always heard it is easier after the first time of getting out.. I think now you need to just learn to relax and use one of the many techniques of getting back out intentionally. I recommend Robert Bruce's books and also Robert Monroe's... any of them that relate to teaching you how to astrally project.. or just look online there are alot of resources.

But we did have the same thing when the year 2000 clicked over and there weren't any mass mental things... nothing happened.

I get your point... I just don't get 'it'... the whole waiting for something that might be a waste of thought.

I'm intrigued to see what happens when it passes over smoothly. Probably the same thing that happened in 2000... all the prophesiers went quiet for a while and then rekindled the 2012 thing... and shift it forward again to 2032 is it?

Yes you are right.. but 2000 was a little different.. it was something that computer nerds suddenly came up with which never really made sense to me... a car not cranking cause the computer would think it was the year 1900 and that it didn't exists yet. come on!! LOL...  for some reason 2012 holds more weight to me but I am treating it sort of the same as 2000.. Im not going out to spend my life savings on supplies or giving away all my belongings

I WANT to believe nothing happens. Why does something have to happen? Why  - after all the historical knowledge of prophecy dates and blunders created thereon in - are we still hooked on the 2012 thing?

Mayans that are alive today are basically laughing at the 2012 prophesiers.

Why don't people listen to them?

I'm asking lots of questions today.

Well, even if nothing happens at all, my scenario about people going crazy close to that date and running wild I believe, will most definately happen. As much as 2012 has been portrayed in the media and on channels like "The History Channel" constantly for years and on the web... it is part of the programming of society just like so many other things. It will only take one out of the ordinary thing happening close to that date to set people off I am sure.

But like I said, I want to know what people think of the video link I posted and anyone who knows about, believes, or doesn't believe in ascension or maybe people think it means something completely different. I just have feelings lately that seem to go along with the ascension process but honestly I don't believe any one thing 100% cause nobody really knows.. I am just in "wait and see" mode.. we'll know if we make it to Xmas this year or see the 2013 ball drop in time square. But even if that happens, it may be a turning point in the world that could be good or bad.

1) You are getting up in the morning and not snoozing because of a very regulated sleep pattern...

2) you are very busy at work... or...

3) you are smoking too much weed.

Delete as applicable and remedy by stopping. 

1. I am not sure what you mean exactly... I hit the snooze on my alarm constantly every morning for about an hour before I actually get up.

2. I am very busy at work.

3. I never smoke weed or do any type of drugs so that isn't an issue.

I am sure there are other alternatives other than quitting my job to solve this problem... as much as I would love to be able to not work.. I can't.

Hi all,

I know alot of people have different opinions of what will happen in 2012.. One that I seem to atleast WANT to believe more than others is the ascension to the 5th dimension theory. I have been watching alot of stuff on youtube and wanted to know what others think of this video:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OeZ2DT1yqh0

If this is true, then it sounds like no matter what, 2012 will be a good thing for everyone.

I tend to believe this theory also because of alot of things about myself that people claim are symptoms of ascension. One of the biggest is an intense feeling of being drawn to these type of topics along with a feeling of being different than most people. I feel as though I am "waking up" as so many people describe, because I have for years seen how naive and manipulated society is and I am breaking out of that programming. The thing is ... I have always found myself asking certain questions, but now that I am researching this ascension stuff more, all the pieces seem to be coming together.

Of course, I think alot more will happen leading up to 2012.. Probably a big earthquake soon somewhere in the world or other type of major disaster, crime has already been increasing but will spike drastically as people go crazy thinking the end is near and start doing whatever they want on a global scale, and then of course there is the alien attack government hoax theory.