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helichrysum oil normally mostly used to regenerate skin cells quickly for example if you have a mosquito bite, burn mark, bruise, cut, area where you have pain, new cut/scar if you put it on the spot the moment you have say the bruise for example it'll heal within a day instead of weeks.  Even works on moles my bro had a mole on his face he was thinking of laser surgery but put the helichrysum and the mole faded away.  Its usually diluted ie 5 drops to say a 15ml bottle (add any oil you like).  Now if you inhale it undiluted you don't need much like get a toothpick a fraction of a drop and put it under the nose or just inhale it for few minutes, it'll open up your energy centers and make you even more sensitive to energy (thats the side effect though if you like feeling electricity like static) they say for people have anxiety it helps them when they inhale it and they say it could be used for spiritual purposes.  It has a tiny physical healing application first time I inhale it my skin/ezcema spot started to itch so even inhaling it has some physical energy/healing (not a lot compared to our conscious mind if we will it in a lucid dream). Personally I use it as a marker which is the amazing thing when you think/feel of body energy or say a prayer for healing etc you will feel your body produce more current and when you do body awareness exercise along with feeling/desire you will know if you did it right cause you will feel the energy if you didn't do it right you won't feel a thing.  Also the most amazing thing about helichrysum when you try new things out say the hemisync tapes you know if they are working for you you'll feel more energy if not then its garbage no use to you, you will know it.  I haven't tried crystals yet but same applies if it works you'll feel more energy if it doesn't then its garbage.  You can buy small samples 0.5ml for like $5-10 thats all you need (use only toothpick) but this stuff is strong not to use too much but I would say its cheaper than buying agarwood which is the most expensive aroma oil in the world 0.5ml bottle would be like $150 to 300 retail.  Most meditation people use sandalwood it smells aweful (like glue or something) as a incense stick and sandalwood is much milder than agarwood/helichrysum it gets your body to produce very little electricity personally I like agarwood/helichrysum but agarwood is out of the question just do darn expensive.  IF you get helichrysum try get it undiluted if its diluted obviously it won't have much in it need to put more amount on your nose.

It's not my fault for the fear factor just the way we're conditioned in life with all these BS'ers preachers about evil spirits in the religion sect, I have to somehow face my fears so to speak like in one psychology book dr. joseph murphy said if you're afraid of swimming do the thing you fear and you won't be afraid of it anymore and don't back down.  I don't think anything can happen if like you said you are just an observer.  I can't believe I came again close to projecting, today so now I know what are the two most important things for success only have 4-5 hours of sleep so you're a bit drowsy and listen to immunize and tommy's vibration starter (they somehow keep the mind alert and focused in the alpha) and do body awareness exercises in the process while you drift off at the verge of sleep.  What happened again I went into a dream state guys chasing me I said wait a minute I'm dreaming then was alert then another dream sequence saw  people moving in across the street in a business place I said let me see if my higher self will reveal to me which store exactly then the word clothing store popped in.  Then all of a suddent I wanted to use the immunizing words (from the immunizing cd) to trigger my self healing (skin burn/rash/eczema condition I have from toxins in the body) I said Plus, Alert, Destroy like I'm supposed to say in the conscious world all of a sudden my skin started to itch (it was working for those few seconds) it was responding!.  Then I said I want to kick some devils butt (actually see people who are opresssed by spirits thats what probably scares me the most to see) because I said that my body tried to seperate again had my astral sight and I was getting very heavy again hearing the static noise thing again then I chickened out I said I'm not ready and somehow I aborted it I didn't know my body was doing this automatically thought I was being possessed or something (at conscious level you are in control not if you obe from lucid though which scared me).  I gotta read robert's book again or do something to convince myself this is normal and there's nothing to fear about.  Thank goodness for his book I would not known how the process was of seperating and would think its something else and never try again.

it'll be interesting what robert's institute comes up with anything greater than the hemi-sync series such as the crossing water effect was interesting enough but I believe he said he wants to investigate it further imagine if he found the exact answer of the crossing water thing or any other things to build upon or many other things he pondered on.  I think he will be even more successful than monroe because of his website is a open concept thing with thousands upon thousands of real ober's out there he can do research on so long as locality is not an issue.  I haven't heard much about monroe's institute besides the hemi-sync series that's all I hear did monroe do any other research besides hemi-sync?  The problem with hemi-sync I haven't read anywhere how effective it was on say 1,000 volunteers so we can get an idea how many people can be programmed to obe and how many can't with the hemi-sync concept just like vaccines they say how many people it will be effective with and how many it will not within a years time.

if you believe in God you need not worry.  I have no psychic abilities whatsoever and God has given me mystical signs physical visible signs that is (I don't deserve them) many of them all according to being a godly character which is (Faith, Hope Charity) and the moral virtues (Prudence, Fortitute, Temperance, Justice).  In the catholic faith the virgin mary apparitions (ie fatima now medjugorje) is just a sign that crazy things are to come soon within the next 10 years I suppose and like the virgin mary says one who believes in God need not worry but also asks everyone to pray for peace.  If you want to know you're not the only person who probably knows whats going to happen in the future even the seers of medjugorje (10 secrets) have seen it too and they're going to tell the world when each secret happens a week in advance and the last secrets are severe and its been given to 6 people individually one of them is probably your age too (young kid) so you're not the only young one out there getting revelations.  But I don't believe everyones going to die just depends where you live on the planet. What did you see how are you going to die is it a tidal wave, nuclear/chemical explosion or combat or invasion?  If I were to die I'd probably know a few months or few weeks in advance cause I always get signs in my dreams of upcoming things that would effect me (ie losing my job etc..) and how I am effected but doesn't show it exactly as shown but its good enough to give me a hint whats going to happen.

I think like most say that is to not meditate right before you go to sleep when I do that my body gets so aggrevated but if I do it say few hours before its ok the best like some say go to sleep 6 hours wake up stay awake for an hour then go back to sleep for the next few hours your body is already rested but mind will stay awake when you dream and go lucid in the dream.  If you look at it scientifically they say to achieve obe is to condition the mind to relax a lot but problem is if you fall into theta brainwaves too long (alertness is gone) you drift off to sleep they say you need a little alertness spike to the alpha range so your mind stays alert a little thats probably the formula for those who successfully obe consciously thats the next step.  Many advices on alertness given here like doing reality checks so you do them in the dream in case you fell asleep I don't know of any conscious techniques to keep you alert when you're drifting off to sleep except what robert said is to have your arm up on the bed when its falling down then thats an alert signal, a biofeedback device that can detect that you're falling in theta send a beep in your ears to keep you alert is cool (put you back into alpha a little) but those things cost an arm and a leg to buy soon that is going to change at http://openeeg.sourceforge.net (freeware/public project), now imagine having a mahine like that eventually you're bound to obe successfully instead of having to fall asleep and mess up a day.

you should of never make assumptions and asked this being who they are (identify themselves)?  I remember one time after my grandmom died week later she came to my mom my mom saw a dream of door slamming and woke up arms numb (paralysis) then the same hour she came to me I saw the door slamming instead of waking up I got a tape recorder i could of said I'm listening then I knew intuitively who it was called out grandmom she replied to me, I said how its over there she says its always summer (so the warm thing is true) wanted to ask more questions but I woke up my arms were numb though but knew it was a good spirit and the spirit was grandmom because she went to my mom first and failed then came to me and identified itself to me.

have to agree dpr is the most important really its not the trance state thats important it's the raising the vibrational state to a level where you can literally just walk out of your body, it has happened to me one time I fell asleep I woke in one lucid dream mode where I was in my bed felt the vibrations intensely all over my body and just walked out without having to do any rope technique whatsoever.  Now if I can do the converse in a conscious state I'd bet I can pull off the same thing just walk out of my body only if I can raise the vibrations enough like in the dream state to help accomplish this.

til you can heal your body with NEW, the only thing that helped a lot for the diarhea/stomach cramps is imodium at the pharmacy.  You can also take the flu vaccine which is good in a sense you may not get sick or recover more quicker.

I've had times wheren i went lucid to obe but I did have times I went lucid to waking up.  Its freaky when you meditate in your bed before you sleep sometimes you may get aware that you are dreaming and say hey I'm in my bedroom now this is not real then you become lucid.  I felt paralysis kick in after I became lucid only problem is I rushed myself and said shut down and woke up instead of waiting it other times I maybe stare at some fixed objects and become more and more lucid/aware then pay attention to noise in my ear then blink my eyes in my dream and then black out/shut the dream down then I ended up in my bedroom and walked out of my body.

another amazing psychic is james van praagh http://vanpraagh.com/ he was on larry king he was bulls-eyeing every caller that was calling in what their problem was without them ever telling him any information.

Jesus Christ was the greatest saint (and teacher) ever lived (most will agree upon this) on this earth and I believe he is God because he said so and because of the fact that whatever uttered from his mouth happened exactly as he spoke it or believed it.  If he is God then God does not doubt himself thus everything he did he achieved instantly. At one time I believe we were exactly like Jesus Christ supermen when the first two human beings were created (adam&eve) and God stripped their power away because they didn't believe in him/trust in him anymore (when devil came to them and said eat this apple and be like God but ironically they had the fullness of God within them and just had to ask instead).  Even if you go back to history books look as josephus flavius "the jewish war" by penguin classics he was a jew commissioned to write for the romans on the history of the roman empire and he was compelled to leave his testimony of jesus christ he said he was the son of god himself he witnessed his miracles and he was not a Jesus believer.  Other books if you want to go back in time checkout mary agreda's book City of God (unabridged 4 volume set) she had the gift of bilocation (being two places at the same time) she preached the catholic faith to indians in usa while in spain she also had revelations of the beginning of the world, lessons on holyness, and also re-revealing the bible over again.  Even the metaphysical community look at her as some interesting spiritual character. Her body has not even decomposed after 350years as a sign.  She wrote about aiming towards being near god which are faith,hope,charity and moral virtues which we have to work throughout our life namely to achieve the end towards god which are Prudence, Fortitude, Temperance and Justice any religion doesn't follow these things is truly not from God thats for sure.

hi barbara the only guarantee advice I can give you is go to your local health store pickup noni capsules it'll give you a lot of energy especially after having to do chemo it has been scientifically proven (go to pubmed.org click noni or morinda citrifolia or indian mulberry same item different names) in mice that were injected with carcinoma lived 200-300% longer.  I took it for my inflammation (was due to contaminated water/fungus water that triggered it) and reduced it significally.  Also dropping the fear/anxious (which indicates hopelessnesses) and be more of a desirous mood feeling good belieiving its happening now is to say affirmations check out some of dr. joseph murphy's book power of subconscious mind and miracle of mind dynamics will also help improve your health, also be in a receptive mood I like robert bruces body awareness exercises with breathing deeply (breath awareness) those can relax the body and raise energy then doing affirmations after is easier more effective, essential oils to try with meditation is helichrysum.  Also I heard but I haven't sacrificed myself to do it is to cut back on fat,sugar,starch,yeast they say mainly body not to feed on bacteria (candida yeast) but come to find out your body wastes 50% of its energy digesting food so if you eat foods that you cut down on fat,sugar,starch (starch is converted to sugar in body),yeast like vegetables (low in sugar) less meat (fish/organic chicken ok)/no bread/no cheese gives it more of its energy to do other things like heal itself or go on certain fasts I've heard some tried green/blue algae fast for a few months only since it has all nutrients necessary to sustain life and water.  That's all I know so far that does work noni and if seriously if you got a few years to live theres no reason why you can beat this cancer you have much time to reflect/meditate on perfect health.  And of course believe in yourself and don't watch that benny hinn (he wants to eat your money, he misrepresents jesus)on tv they debunked him as a crook on dateline last month and hbo had a segment question about miracles investigated all the people onstage non retained their healing. Those people who believe they can be healed by benny hinn there at his crusade but rarely anyone retains their healing the ONLY ones I hear that were healed and kept their healing is from dr. joseph murphy's psychology books because they believed in themselves which is your best bet which they refer to as the holy spirit in us (greater is he who is in you than is in the whole wide world) or in psychology they like refering it to the subconscious mind.  And of course don't drop your conventional therapy use it to enhance it/improve it (ie noni capsule/meditation).

I think even the body awareness exercise can trigger obe on its own.  From my experience whats amazing whatever you do in the physical if you don't obe successful chances are you will enact it in your dream when its a thousand times easier.  I recall both scenarios where I felt my whole body vibrate a lot and I just walked out so the body awareness exercises if successful to raise the body vibration enough/numb the body at the same time obviously will make it easy to just walk out.  I even tried the circular wheel technique and I swear one time I just got ejected out of my body (no vibrations).  Personally I like the body awareness because it does not tense the body thats the most annoying thing your body does vibrate but at the same time it tenses when doign rope technique, I don't know how I can overcome the tension on the body unless that is supposed to be normal?  A third technique that seems to work if you do body awareness exercises a lot, sometimes you may see a dream sequence and say hey I'm in my bedroom doing body awareness exercise this is all fake and then I become lucid (then the body starts to numb up/paralysis) and then sometimes can obe at that point or wake up from it in other words you are aware you're dreaming and can sort of control it.  Its neat when you do it in the dreamworld cause you realize what things have to feel if you're in the conscious state doing obe and what mistakes you're doing like for example going into lucid mode I was successful many times and one time I wasn't because I didn't spend enough time being aware and letting the body kick into paralysis enough for me I hurried up in telling it this is fake shut down now and I woke up instead of obe.  I think its the same way with meditation never be impatient in obe'ing cause you can screw up your meditation that way just like in your dream.   Thats the cool thing about the dreamworld you can sort of see what your mistakes are and correct them, betcha any money for many who are succesful ober's they all had trial error and fine tuning.

i think I know why its difficult to concentrate (ie the chatter box), the chatterbox is the emotional box I like to call it if you attach many emotions of your daily activity to it then it'll end up popping in your mind more frequently later on in the day like worries or concerns, I think if one can control ones emotions then you can reduce the chatter box but that is only with practice but you can also develope your silencing so you can shut down the chatterbox at will but that is with practice some practice things to do is to be aware that you are leaving from the focus and immediately come back or try breath awareness/feeling the body that sort of helps stop or slow down the chatterbox.  I see experts in obe and such they always comment that how relaxed they are and nothing in the day bothers them because they trained their mind to never show much emotion to the daily activities of life but I guess center it more towards their meditation instead obviously you center your emotions to your meditation more than anything else then obviously you will have a big advantage.  Like in joseph murphy's book "power of subconscious mind" what you feel you attract what you imagine you become.

i think you can pull off obe in lucid dreaming whatever you do in physical world trickles down to the dream world ie you spend time doing body awareness exercises breathing exercises you will end up in dreamstate doing same thing but many more times sensitive thuse it will help trigger the vibrations and you can walk out of your body assuming you got some of your awareness that you're in your bedroom and you can walk out with no resistance.  You can also try this trick sleep 6 hours wake up then wash your face, stay up for 45mins-1hour then go back to sleep while doing some body awareness exercise or something this may help trigger lucid dream/obe since your mind is fully awake and body is not yet regenerated completely.

It takes time and practice soon as you can LD a lot of times you will be able to control it more your subconscious has not been programmed to do anything but be aware you are dreaming.  Still its a great start I haven't gotten farther than my bedroom and I have started to control my dreams I just have to remind myself next time I obe or realize I am dreaming that I will do something in it so its prepared to do it ie go to the real time zone or do whatever I want it to accomplish in my dream state.  Its freaky the same things you do in meditation ends up in your lucid dreams like if you do body awareness exercises with deep breathing (with your stomach) I had virtual obe experience where I obe'd and was saying to myself I better breath deeply so I can stay in this mode longer and it kinda worked feeling even more energy in my dreamstate actually when I woke up my arms were numb that was a sign it was a truly controlled obe within a lucid dream.  Some tips to make you more lucid in your dream is to stare at a fixed object in your dream that will make you more aware you are dreaming maybe even help you control it one time I did that and then was aware I was dreaming then I didn't want to see it anymore(started closing my eyes on it) and it literally shut down went black and I was in my bed in my body looking through my closed eyelids then I slipped out of my body.  You can try that next time.

I may start doing this soon as I start luciding more but the best techniques is to do reality checks like inspect objects in real life to see am I dreaming?  In the dreamworld if you glare at an object automatically you will be more and more aware you are dreaming and switch to a lucid state or be in control of the dream and be able to shut it down (go obe afterwards)  or change it according to what you want to say/think believe as true.

Thats the reason I don't like those herbs calea or salvia divinorum they're gross you can't drink them as a tea you have to smoke them and in high quanttiies so it can go directly to the blood stream not damaged by the stomach acids thats another thing I don't like I rather have something I know works in capsule/tea form and only drink in short quantities 1 tablespoon.  All these calea/salvia herbs they try sell them as legal highs or something what a joke because sometimes they may/may not work or not work at all plus they are making a killing profit because really why should it cost $58 for 1/4 pound herb whats so special about that herb than any other herb to harvest it?  Wild Lettuce is good I hear st. john worts is also another strong calmer along with jamaican dogwood, passionflower and hops haven't tried these ones yet but I have tried scullcap/valerian/salvia/gotu kola so far wild lettuce is producing more results and its amazing for me to be aware of all my dream sequences and each dream sequence 6 in a row to start off in my bed man if  I can do that all the time it sure will beat conscious obe because how many times can one conscious obe as a beginner?  Also one can work towards making those obe's realtime obe's and not have much obstructions in the way ie stress.

I haven't tried calea I have to also inform that "wild lettuce" Lactuca virosa botanical name is illegal only in finland (finland has made many herbs illegal even salvia divinorum for example).  The only thing I like is this herb works and its cheap.  They say calea works the same way but I think wild lettuce is even better it only costed me like $8 for a pound of dried herb I checked calea zacheticci costs $58 for 1/4 pound.

need: a good beginner book to start to understand how the mind works especially with affirmations/visualization is dr. joseph murphy the power of your subconscious mind other books by same author miracle of mind dynamics, telepsychics, how to use your healing power (this one quotes one guy who had a mental problem what affirmation he used and worked here is the prayer to say with faith (desire/feeling like its happening now or it feels good maybe even say it outloud if need be) he said it ten to fifteen minutes four times a day "God's Love,  Truth, Wisdom flood my mind and heart.  I love the Truth, I hear the Truth, and I know the Truth.   God's River of Peace floods my mind, and I give thanks for my freedom."  you said you also have a wife why not get her also to pray for you this is the prayer dr. joseph murphy said for the person "need is thinking rightly.  He is reflecting Divine Wisdom and Divine Intelligence in all ways.  His mind is the perfect mind of God unchanging and eternal.  He hears the voice of God which is the Voice of Peace and Love.  He understands the truth, he knows the truth and he loves the truth.  God's River of peace floods his mind, his mind is full of God's wisdom and Understanding.  Whatever is vexing him now is leaving him, and I pronounce him free and at peace.  Dr. joseph said he meditated on these truths night and morning getting the feel of peace and harmony and at the end of the week the young man was completely free so your wife has to picture you as free and at peace.  It's not bad to find a psychic who has maybe 100 times more ability than your wife can to meditate for you because I heard somewhere a true psychic/meditator/healer meditates for someone he meditates 1 hour but its only 10minutes for the guy so he has to meditate 10 hours for the guy just to produce 1 hour meditation (a lot of work for the psychic healer) BUT if you meditate with him its easier for him you know about astral projection why not find someone who actually has the experience I know there are a lot of phonies who just do card reading and pretend they can heal but you'll be surprised there are some who are the real thing just have to investigate actually I notice hindu's are a lot into meditation/tresecendental they're pretty strong too for psychic healing, trial and error or if some are really good here and willing to work with you (I hope someday I become a healer working on robert's book lovely book must say). If you want to know for sure they're not phony when they send out healing vibrations you WILL feel them on your body and it was produced by the healer.  If you put the effort in it with affirmations along with body awareness exercises from robert bruce's book coupled with passive countermeasures such as crossing water/running water around your bed (get a water pump only cost $40 rap it around your bed) put it in a bucket of water , get some aroma essential oils sandalwood incense sticks or helichrysum oil has been known to give a lot of energy to the head people being cured of their anxiety after smelling it oh thats another thing you have to overcome fear/anxiousness/anxiety and according to dr. joseph's murphy law of substitution everytime a fear comes out you have to substitute with a more powerful/positive thought (to dominate it) like this will come to pass or greater is he who is in you than is in the whole wide world (in the bible) if you start believing that and start working towards those affirmations desirably you will reap what you sow that is positive thoughts will enter and like the quote says in the bible As a Man Thinkeths in his heart so he becomes but it will take time though but if you have a desire to get well you will get well its simple as that (delight yourself in the lord and he'll give you the desires of your heart).  You know what demons cannot stand I came to realize this after reading murphy's book and especially bruce's explanation of them they are incapable of feeling positive emotions so they flee they either are drained energy or uncapable of feeling it it damages them or hurts them.  You know what makes them flee the most if you start visualizing yourself hugging say your enemies saying I forgive you and kissing them on their cheek I swear I yawn like crazy everytime I do it, so that is a technique to replace love with hate.  I guess the same would be to replace fear with peace I haven't encountered fear in my life majorly I dunno you can come up with something you are doing in your visualization to give you peace or do the affirmations. Good Luck keep on keeping til the day breaks and the shadow flees away.  Also good to say the lord's prayer and ask him for his helpand guidance  too you never know who he may bring to you.

it wouldn't work they say the spiral just slows down the brain waves and relaxes you and the subliminal message is the text that is running across the screen fast so your subconscious picks up the message.  I did try it last night it does work as in dream recalling was easy and more dreams I can recall but if you keep doing it on a consistent basis who knows may go lucid after.

here's 2nd lucid inducer at:
http://stealthassassins.20m.com/cgi-bin/i/images/lucid_helper.gif
or go to
http://stealthassassins.20m.com/cgi-bin/i/images
then click lucid_helper.gif if it says can't link.

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quote:Originally posted by MsAmericanPie:
Does it taste good?

I don't know I take the capsule form they do also sell it as a herb really cheaply but they say elephants in india eat a lot of this herb.  Next time I try it in raw bulk form will let you know.

when you returned to your body after saying awareness now even if you couldn't say it just thinking of it is good enough you should of immediately rolled out when you saw yourself on your bed sometimes you maybe in your bed with closed eye-lids I did that one time just looking at objects and being aware it was a lucid dream then shutting the dream down paying attention to the humming sound in my ear made me go back to my body but I immediately rolled out when that happened also when I got out I couldn't see all you do is say I can see now and was stuck to my body and say loosen now, much easier than doing the rope technique even that works as well.  I remember one time in my life a demon tried to enter my lucid dream and scare me/brainwash me and I told it get lost and it waved its head no, I said to myself oh ya, and I started to say the creed as soon as I said I believe in J before I said Jesus just said the J word I woke up from my lucid dream my body numb too (usually happens when I astral project) its always good to believe in God once you put your focus on him those things flee, they don't stick around to get clobbered by angels/good spirits or God etc..

the more you hack at it in a way where you have a great desire for it without tensing up then it should come eventually atleast in a lucid dream or something.  Like bruce said if you can achieve a relaxed state but not too relaxed and keep the mind focused on one thing don't let it wander (tame the mind) chances are you should be able to achieve obe I noticed the best achieved obe's are just when you're about to wake up since your body is rest your mind is just waking up I've not yet had an obe falling asleep or consciously only when I was in a lucid dream or when I just woke up and immediately went towards doing it I succeeded few times or had a false awakening and did an obe instead.