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Agreed. Or stay in a posture you are not used to. As for example arms on your side,  laying in your back, and legs stretched.

For me, if I stay in that position, no matter how long I stay there, I will have to change to my side to be able to sleep.

 

I just read the first pdf you've send me. The spinning sensation, the 3d symbols... the "Merkaba" thing, is exactly what happens to me. Though, I have never had them together, Either 3d white symbols visualizations, either the spinning madness (only that not vertical as you explain, mine is horizontal).

Will have to get more info about it. Thank you Bedeekin

Sorry for not answering before. Thanks for all the responses.

I will check the PDF right away.


Also, I'm dedicating to this with a different approach. I have now free time in the afternoons, when I get home, so I can take long naps. I decided to practice before, and after the nap.


Also, last night I decided to listen to an interview from the radio program "coast to coast AM", I didn't have any intentions on leaving my body, I only wanted to relax, listen, and drift to sleep.
I recommend anyone with some free time to hear it: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QcHxLUzCxR8.

While I was listening to it, I got completely relaxed, to the point where once again, my entire body started spinning very very very fast. I could still hear the interview perfectly, was very very aware of what was going on, and really, My body was just spinning, no sense of the bed, only my self spinning. I didn't get nervous as before, I was perfectly calmed and enjoyed the ride.

I did ask for help around me, to aid me in my task (whatever it is). I don't usually ask for help, but this time I did.

This spinning sensation happened around 3 or 4 times in the hour I stayed there. After I thought I had enough, I opened my eyes and I saw this shadow figures on top of my body, floating. Some of them were very small, and was going down to my chest, others were large, and were going up and down my body from feet to head. Some others were up in the ceiling.

It's not the first time I've seen these. But I really have no idea what they are. I know it's not my imagination, cause I can see them clearly, so so clearly, and they move with free will, If I stay still, looking up the ceiling, some of them pass by and get out of sight, if I turn my head to one side to look at them, there they are.


Any idea??, or has anyone experienced something like this?.  Both, the spinning, and the shadows.

Thank you in advance

Hi everyone, glad to read you as always.

Last night, I woke up in the middle of the night, didn't check the time. I stayed still, and was very aware of my position in bed. I suddenly could see my wall in front of me, and a big white bright symbol... kind of a maze, very very bright, very clear. I had my eyes closed. But could still see the wall, and the maze itself, while being very aware of my body, and my state of consciousness.

I opened my eyes, thinking that I already had them open at that moment (when you just woke up, you're sometimes not sure if you have your eyes open, or where you are... etc. Takes me a few seconds to gain back lucidity).

Once I opened them I realized I was seeing that with my eyes closed, but it was so clear...

Any feedback?.

Have a nice night/day/afternoon, life in general. See you all some day

Well, Just to let you know I've been on this for quite a while... 4-5 months I think?. You discover many many things in the way, I've only gotten vibrations once, and was after waking up after a very strong dream, if I was in SP I don't know, cause I didn't pay attention to my body, I naturally started vibrating.

I am trying many many different things, I'm constantly innovating, and all I can tell you is that everything makes you grow a little bit more, every little turn you make when you're there, alone, in your bed, only you finding out you are more than just your mind...

Everything leads to a path in my opinion, that path is to grow more spiritually, to understand more. And I believe that sticks with you after you leave this body forever.

You actually see the world different, see your self different, you suddenly realize you are not your thoughts, your aptitudes, your strengths,,, Yes, all of those are part of you right now, in this very moment and in this life; they are meant to be discovered, and developed, but they aren't you, you are something more than that. All of these realizations don't come from books, or from readings others writings, they come from the time you spend going within you.

Meditation is (for me) a path to prepare your self for OBE, and OBE is a tool to know your self, to grow, to learn.

So ask your self, Are you  seeking spiritual growth, knowledge, learning from you and from everything? or are you just seeking to "OBE"

i've been trying them, for the last week, I can tell you nothing but good messages I've got from them. Nothing feeling not right, everything seems natural, pleasant, easy.

Hello my friends; still around here, just a little busy with life.


I've discovered some things; the more busy your physical life, the more joyful, the more matter you have in it, the more difficult is to manage to get into any of the "mind levels" many times described.

Since I'm realistic, I cannot focus on my spiritual matters right now as I'd wanted to, too much distraction; I still follow what I've managed to realize.

Right now, I'm focusing my self more in the mornings, and in dreams. I always try at least 20-40 minutes before sleeping, just staying there. Yesterday I had this incredible physical "touching" in my left ear, I even had to move thinking it was an insect.  Lack of awareness of the mental state I was in .


Anyways I had this dream I want to share with you.


I was in this dentist clinic (I have had a couple of problems with an old dentist, that did a mess in one of my molars). I was in that dentist, it was a good dentist, very professional so I was happy to be there. As part of my subconsciousness, and the fact I've been worried about that molar for a long time, I had all my teeth wrong in that dream, I had teeth were there shouldn't be teeth...etc.
When I laid down in the stretcher, I started to feel something in that molar and started to pull out little pieces of metal dozens of them, the dentist told me it was normal to have that in there, wasn't normal to pull them out though.

After a while of being there, they gave me some anesthetic so I quickly realized I was going to take advantage of that state, and try to obe in that dream. I was laying down on my back in the dream... After a while, and when I soon started to feel the lifting, two dogs started to bite my hands gently; they didn't hurt me they just didn't like what I was doing. I asked the dentist what are doing those dogs in here; they told me the dogs don't want me to contact with the spirits, they also said if I don't stop doing whatever I'm doing to contact them, they will leave the room; and they did.

There were two friend of mine in the room; the sensations were strange, the ambient was charged with energy, the air had something different, and I had that feeling deep inside me... I asked my friends to look in the internet for ways of telling this spirits to leave us, to let them go. Dogs were still biting, so I told them to leave the room, I opened the room and let them go, then I turned back to my friends and walked a bit into the room... I turned and saw a man trying to enter the room; This is when the "thing" happens: I raised my hand violently, and a feeling of anger, and power surrounded me, I slammed the door with a movement of my hand from the distant, the door closed so hard, and right when it closed the lights went off. My friend asked me what happened, I told him it was me.. I was kind of scared, because I didn't know what I was doing, I was feeling something inside me, the ambient was very very intense.

I decided to lay down, to relax, and to send whoever was there with me love, and acceptance. To know who they were, and if they had bad intentions to try to help them out, to understand they never have felt love, and a person or a being that has never felt that, may be going into another way, more (lack of a better word) "evil".

Right when I was starting to send love all around the room, I woke up in my bed, in the exact same position. I opened my eyes in my room, still thinking I was going to see the dentist room, and the face of that spirit, when I started to open them slowly I realized I was in my real room, and freaked out.

It's the second most vivid dream of my life, didn't get to vibration state right when I woke up, as the last time I had a similar dream, and woked up in the exact same position.


Still trying things in the morning, trying not to move, but is hard to don't move. I want to try also to fall asleep laying on my back, is something I have never do, everytime I'm laying on my back I cannot sleep, I mean; when I meditate, or try to archieve an OBE I lay on my back, and to sleep I have to change that position otherwise I would stay there for hours. I will try it though, see if those nightmares come, I'll keep you informed Szaxx.

Safe travels

I still sometimes get angry at people and their egos (with their arrogance) but thankfully the anger is dying away, and is now being replaced with love and compassion.

oh my friend, I know that feeling. It is hard sometimes to look at people and look at the big picture, see why they are as they are in that moment
Some people get on my nerve as well, but we'll get there eventually. 

George Harrison

It is a pain in the..!!. But really, try to meditate sorrounded with those bzzzz little sounds, expecting to be bitten

I could, I did have an episode with certain bat. It was a night of jumping around my bedroom with  a blanket, trying to show him the path to the window.

They bite me when I'm trying to meditate! . And those mosquito things you plug in just wont work. I do keep my windows open at night or it will be impossible to sleep.

Should I take a bath with vinegar?

Missed reading some of your writing my friend.

I'll see you around I'm hoping

Well, I've been sceptical for my entire youth, and I agree with Volgerle. I've grown up around catholicism, I believed that the ones who believe in God, was basically because of their fear to accept you are only a living being, that will eventually die as you were born.

I was completely wrong, I do believe in God, but in a different way as what I thought God was all about. I can't even explain it my self, I'm still discovering, learning, definitely knowing my own self in this universe, in this time, and in consequence, God.

Even though I was sceptical, I respected anyone with beliefs in spirituality, and was always curious about it. I used to have this long conversations with a friend of mine who believed. Now the same, but from the other side, respecting people who are not believing, because they haven't discovered it yet, it's about time. A person situation in life isn't to be jugded, comprehension, acceptance, and then trying to show them my way with no expectations, but to share what I feel.

haha, all right all right , I'll let you go with that one for now  .

Sorry to the poster, for the off topic

The sad thing is, before we get into a total economical collapse there will be war, that's what sadly happened in the great recession, War gave people jobs, car industries went up again to manufacture tanks...etc...etc.

You be as you be. 

And how did you get to be what you are??, by being, or by learning? 

Whatever happens, happens.

My favourite saying lately has been "It is what it is".

It is what it is; you are what you are. Now, what do you do to improve your self? 

For me, even thought I haven't been able to archive an OBE, all of those times being just my consciousness, has give me quite a lot of time to realize. As LightBeam, I've come to the decision to help others, to not judge, to (how George Harrison said once), not looking at people around you with a microscope, but accepting who they are. To love them that is.

So far, it is a hard thing to do, and it requires effort from our side, it isn't an easy thing I tell you, at first your judging side pops out instantly as we've been having that habit. I started by just letting judge come out, then forget about it, and look at the person I have in front of me with a clear mind; you start to discover feelings of everyone around you, even those who have been there since your childhood, you understand them better, you share their emotions. You get closer to everyone else, and to your self in nature.

Great news!!

Congrats to the academy, and to Yolette

Welcome and congrats my friend.

Keep us posted!

Hello my friends.

Still around here, form time to time, but have some busy months lately. Still meditating, writing now everything in a notebook (dreams included).


Glad the pulse is still pulsing, new people coming in, and the usual helping around .

Wanted to post something here, I just laid down for 20-30 minutes, to explore my inner consciousness as usual, lately I'm feeling this "thing" in the right side of my face/head. Same feeling as if someone puts a hand close to my head in that spot.  I just let it be, whatever it is, I've asked some questions for intentions, or for knowledge, the feeling keeps there. Again, nothing wrong with it, it feels good actually. When I decided to end the meditation, I opened my eyes, and saw in the right side of my bed, (right of my body), some white "shadow", as some radiation or waves, pulsing from my waist up to my head, constantly pulsing; I stayed there, watching. Then I moved my head to look at it more clear, and a feeling of warmness filled my entire body. It felt very very warm, I laid down again, closed my eyes and enjoyed that feeling.

As always, sorry for my English, it's quite hard to explain my self sometimes, more over in this matters.

I'll keep posting around, good night everyone. And enjoy yourselves



Edit: Wanted to clarify: I'm taking the "getting out of body" a little bit more slow, and have done more progress this way than when I was constantly trying to archive an OBE; There are times now where I just lay or sit down, to enjoy the feelings, and to explore my own self. To think clearly about what I want to think, and to set goals for my self, to live this physical life as I believe I should do.

Most of the times when I do this, (almost everytime), I end up either feeling the rising up, the falling down, the noises... without even looking up for it. I can tell to the new ones, that with the most experience you gather behind you, the more enjoyable it is, and the more pleasant. That "exciting feeling", or nervous I could call it, is almost gone now; with the exceptions of really vivid experiences that happened around me, which I think I'm starting to get used to, and to approach to them as they are, with curiosity, and willing to learn from them. No more "o sh**t what is that floating above me", I just look at everything it comes, and try to figure out what it is, no more no less.

Bienvenido compi

Very much glad of your progress sxaxx. What you say about vibrations not being presented for long time travelers makes sense.

The vibrations I've got were so huge, it seemed an earthquake. Maybe because of me being absolutely new to this world, and my energy freaks out every time I push the button.

Congratulations really.

Hmmm, I have felt something in my ears as well, but more like the heartbeat, with "air coming in, or out" not sure my friend !.


Still, congrats for the progress!