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Maybe the Earth will be a better place once humans kill themselves off.

I am sorry to see you leave. I have enjoyed reading your posts. I do feel that this is the best forums on these subjects. That does not mean that they are perfect. Like any other forums you have to learn who to listen too. You do not have to read every post, or agree with everything that is said. I do not agree with everything that is posted here, but it is nice to see other views at times. I hope you find what you are looking for and I hope to see you back here sometime.

Good Luck!

The thing about anarchy and choas is that there is always someone bigger and stronger than you. So while you are off killing, raping, and plundering someone else is killing, raping, and plundering from you.

A co-worker had that connect to an overseas internet service thing happen to him. He was surfing the net and he got some porn popup. He closed it, but apparently it connected him anyway because next time he got a phone bill he was billed for a large amount. Luckily the phone company did not make him pay it.

I think I would wish for about $10 million, not really that much any more but that is plenty for me to stop working (for money), live off the interest, and stay at home to take care of my daughter while being able to give more time to my metaphysical studies and practices.

If we get to make unrealistic wishes then I would wish to do away with our current cultures based on money and replace them with societies that have no money systems but instead are based on the betterment of self and humanity as a whole.

And then I would wish to free the genie from imprisonment in the lamp. []

The error in this is that people view death as something final. While it is your physical body's last active moments on the Physical, it is not the end of your consciousness. You go on. You do not die. If you do not die then physical death really is meanless and thus not that big of a deal as people make it out to be. Whether I die in the next 5 minutes or 100 years from now is not really that important. I will be alive reguardless of what happens.

quote:what is a conscious RTZ etheric projection?

An Etheric Projection into the RTZ is close to the physical. You are creating an etheric double and moving around close to the physical plane. You can go and see your neighborhood, etc as it is on the physical. Astral Projection is projecting into the astral plane which may or may not resemble the physical plane. The Astral is more removed from the physical plane. You can see pretty much anything there. Places that may not exist on the physical can exist on the Astral.

You do not have to be in a trance for hours on end to see any benefits. My advice is to just practice whenever you get the chance. Even just 30 minutes a day, or every other day, or just making some kind of effort will help you. Also you do not have to be in trance to do energy work. You can do it any time. Just be sure to be in a situation that allows you to give your attention to it. Any time you are waiting around, sitting at a desk,etc (I really have no idea what your day is like but you should get the idea) you can do a little energy work. Just practice being aware and moving your energy. When I first started energy work I did not have much time. I usually did it while sitting at red lights on my way to and from work and school and while sitting in class. This may be a little difficult for you at first, but with practice you will be able to move your energy easily.

Good Luck!

The NEW system on www.astralpulse.com is more detailed and may be better for someone that is totally new to energy. Basicly they are the same though. If you are new to energy work then it could not hurt to atleast read over the file on the site.

Robert's NEW system does seem to be a better, and maybe a safer, way to learn energy development. But I learned about it first from Mantak Chia when I read another of his books on this subject. I never experienced any negative effects, but I was exercising and I find exercise to be a good grounding method. He does suggest physical exercise, atleast in the book that I read. After you have learned Robert's NEW system I suggest you look into the books suggested.

quote:Avoid practicing the "Million Dollar" point practices

I never bothered with practicing this. It seemed rather odd and really pointless to me.


I wanted to add, though it has been said, that when you cultivate sexual energy you will also cultivate your emotions you have at the time. If you are angery you will cultivate anger, lustful you will cultivate lust. Basicly this practice can be dangerous if you are in a negative mood or having unproductive emotions. Being loving and happy is ideal for this practice. I just wanted to stress this as it is very important.

quote: Will the 3D blackness state (hypnagogic ?) allow you to do a conscious RTZ etheric projection ?

I do not think so. It has not for me anyway. I think this method is more for going to the Astral.

I do not think that we are actually being watched when we get this feeling, though maybe some are who knows. I think it is the fact that usually you are raising your consciousness, expanding it, and you are becoming more aware of your environment when you AP. With this hightened consciousness and awareness you can perceive yourself in a different way. Because your perception is different you feel a little insecure. The insecurity mixed with your new perception gives you the feeling of "being watched" when in fact you are not.

Pay attention to what you are thinking about. What is it you are trying to do? If you are trying to project then pay attention to what ever method you are using. If you are just wanting to clear your mind, then pay attention to the nothingness. If you are doing energy work pay attention to that. If you let your mind do whatever it wants it will drift off and fall asleep. You need to pay attention to your mind and when you feel it drifting off, pull it back awake.

If you are trying to project you can try paying attention to the darkness behind your closed eyes. It should start to take a 3D shape after awhile, if not immediately, and you should see lights.

Paying attention to your breathing can help you to relax, but if you wish to leave your body it can hurt your efforts by keeping your focused on your physical body.

Trying to project on a full stomach gives you a greater chance of falling asleep, for one thing. Think about the last time you ate a hearty meal, and then how you felt afterwards. A full tummy equals a sleepy person. It is really not healthy to stuff yourself when you eat anyway, but I think we all probably like to endulge in gluttony every now and then. I hear light meals are ok, but I rarely project soon after eating so I cannot say for sure on this.

Crop circles are probably aliens' eqivalent of carving your initials in a tree trunk. They really have no meaning, just something to do while passing through.

Being healthy can be a nice benefit, but I am not sure how much it can help APing. It certainly will not hurt. I like my meat. I like juicy steaks and greasy hamburgers. I can AP. So being a vegan is not a must. Though it is best not to have a full stomach and have just eaten a heavy meal before trying to AP. Being unhealthy might be distracting, such as aches, pains, coughing, etc, which can hinder projecting but mostly because it is distracting and not because you are unhealthy.

If you are wanting to be more healthy, I would suggest you do it for the long term physical effects and not just to be able to AP.

Maybe your problem is that you are using something else to distract your mind from falling asleep instead of paying attention to yourself. Try not to use any outside source and just pay attention to yourself and your mind. Pay attention to keeping it awake. Really it is just going to take practice in getting your mind to stay awake.

quote:the politicians only care about their money,and their lifes not about the country and i´t´s people

Unfortunately I think this is true in every nation.

If you get an itch scratch it. If you have to swallow, swallow. These things can be distracting so take care of them. For someone that is new to all of this, just telling them to ignore it is not usually the best thing. It is not always so easy to ignore such things. When one tries to ignore it they usually think about it which is not really ignoring it, and makes it worse. If you just take care of whatever is bothering you quickly with little thought it will be over and done with and no big deal. Trying to ignore an ever increasing itch over a coarse of 10 minutes is 10 minutes of distraction. Just deal with it and be done with it. As you get better at blocking things out, then maybe you will be able to block out this itch or whatever, but for now I say just scratch it.

A year or two back I was talking to someone who was trying to learn to project. She said that every time she would try her throat would get dry and she would really feel like she needed a drink. I told to just keep something to drink near by and whenever it happened to take a drink. She did this and it was no longer a problem. I think the next time or two she tried she was about to project.

You are not really leaving your body. You are moving your consciousness. You are becoming aware of places (Astral Plane, etc) that you already exist but are not currently fully aware of.

As for proof I can give you none. There are countless posts and writings about people who have done experiments proving it is real. If that is not good enough then you will just have to prove it for yourself, which is really the best way to do it anyway.

Now the point of my post was that it does not really matter to me so much if it is "real" or not because the experience is real because I have experienced it and so from experience can learn and grow. That is what makes it real to me.

I did not really think about it at the time but the other night when the Moon was at its fullest I could not sleep hardly at all. It has gotten a little better the past few nights now that it is waning.

I do not know about the Moon phase helping projection or not. I never really paid attention.

I just purchased a new computer the other day that I will be receiving in the next day or two. I will have XP on it. I have been using ME. Since I am not familar with XP I would much appreciate any info on how to set up the firewall, and disable that annoying message pop up thing I have read can give people problems.

Thanks

You could not pay me to use AOL. I do not know why people would pay their insane prices for such poor service. I think it is just insane to pay anyone over $20 for dail-up, especially when there are many out there that offer it for a lot cheaper. You just have to do a little searching because you don't pay all the extra money for advertising.

I currently use www.neandertech.com and am very happy with it paying just $6.75 a month. You can get it cheaper if you pay for 6 or 12 months. The service is a lot better than AOL. Plus you do not have to download any software, just use what comes with your computer to dail up their network.

I will check out your suggestion. Thanks.

I think it is hard to say for sure. It is possible that an arch, or something resembling an arch was in that location before and left an impression there even after it had been moved.

Or maybe were were just viewing something at an odd angle that you are not use to.

I think it all depends on what one considers real. For me, just experiencing it makes it real. I do not need to prove anything to anyone else to accept it as real for me. What is real?

I think that it is possible to operate in the astral while being aware of the physical too. I cannot do it, but with practice I think one could develop the skill. We all currently exist on the astral, we just are not aware of it. All one would have to do is be aware of both the physical and astral.