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quote:It would be interesting to know how long people stayed with the practice session for that first OBE.

For me, I would usually read about doing it throughout the day. I think this is a big help in getting your mind use to the idea and prepared for it. Then when I got home at night I would lay down and practice. I would practice anywhere from 30 minutes to a couple of hours about every night. Then after about 2 weeks, maybe 3, I had my first OBE.

I am kind of weird because I seem to stick with the practice until I actually have an OBE. Then I seem to slack off for awhile instead of continue to practice.

quote:The only problem was the final pull out, which I couldn't seem to accomplish. I could actually feel the pulling, but they stayed stuck together

Any helpful advice at this point would be good

I think this is where a lot of people have trouble. I think when people reach this stage they get excited and tend to try to force themselves out. It is kind of hard to explain, but when you reach this point it is even more important to remain calm and just go with the flow. Instead of pushing yourself out, it is kind of more like you fall into it, atleast that is how it usually is for me. It is hard to explain but I find it be more subtle than people usually try for.

quote:if man evolved from monkeys, why do we still have monkeys?

That is a misconception. Man could not have evolved from monkeys or any other species. Man was always man. Man would have evolved from a more primitive state, which may have resembled present day monkeys, but man was never a monkey.

quote:But mankind has evolved to adapt using intellect, not by changing their form.

The first part is clearly true. We have evolved to use intellect. But who is to say that we will never change in form again? No one can really say. Things evolve to adapt to environment. If the Earth's environment changes drasticly I hope that human's can evolve to survive within the new enviroment, otherwise humanity may die off no matter how smart we may think we are.

quote:All other animals co-exist together and benefit in their own way to the earth and eachother.

So do humans. We depend on the Earth and everything in it as much as every other living thing on it. We are not independent of nature. We try to isolate ourselves from it, for some reason, but we are still bound to it. If you think not, next time you eat a steak or a salad think about where it came from.




Knowledge is not evolution. Evolution is a change in form. By loosing knowledge we do not de-evolve. So if we are in a cave grunting or sitting at McDonalds chatting about Astral Projection it does not change who we may be when we look in a mirror.

Along with your suggestions, Tisha, I think a good preparation for OBEs is to work on your mind. Unless you are already good at keeping your mind clear, you need to work on this as it will really help when you try to project. I know that when I do not meditate for awhile my mind gets really ... cluttered I guess would be a good way to say it. It is like being mentally out of shape. Working on keeping a clear mind and your concentration will do one a world of good when it comes to OBEs.

quote:That means put away those videos, Squeek! How important are videos compared to OBE anyway? Or TV for that matter?

Who is to say what is more important? All are tools. It depends on how we use the tools. I need to play some video games or watch some tv every now and then just to relax. I find that one can try too hard to project. I usually have the most success when I am not even trying to project. So a good little break of doing something not at all related to projection or metaphysics can do one a lot of good. Of coarse, if one is wanting to project but finds themself always playing or watching something else instead of practicing then that can be a bad thing.

Whenever I take a break from projecting it usually takes me about 2 weeks of practicing for about an hour each day to be able to project again. So yes, you will be able to project again soon, Tisha. This time you atleast know that you can do it and how. []

Wow, cainam_nazier, you are only 26? I thought you were much older. I guess you just come off as mature and wise.

You can't write?? Your posts are always well written. Maybe you are just too hard on yourself. Maybe you just need to discipline yourself to stay committed to whatever it is you want to write, if that is what you want to do.

Good luck with your career search. []

Have you tried using search? I might be mistaken but I think there was atleast one post on IAC awhile back. Sorry, but I do not know anything about them.

Just think how nice your bank account looks the day before you pay those bills.

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Earth and Mars are going to be the closest to each other than they have been in about 60,000 years later this month. Maybe that is it.

There are many techniques that work. The thing is not all of them work best for each person. Look around the forum for several different methods and try them all out. Go with whatever feels right to you. No one can tell you what will work best for you. You just have to practice and find out what works for yourself.

quote:Going from a Lucid Dream to OBE is a lot easier.

This is only easy if one can easily lucid dream. I have a problem with lucid dreaming. Rarely can I get much lucidity in my dreams and it is even more rare that I realize I am dreaming. So this will probably never work for me and others. Though I do know of some that this method is best for.

There is one method that I have not seen mentioned and that I usually use more by accident than intent but can sometimes be the best way. You lay down, relax, and try to get your body to go to sleep. Once your body is well relax, slowly let your mind drift, but you must be aware of how far it is from slipping off to sleep. Whenever you feel your mind get close to slipping off to sleep, jerk it back awake, but only your mind. You want your body to go to sleep so try not to think about your physical body. Usually after a few times of jerking your mind awake you will find yourself out of body.
As you can probably imagine I sort of discovered this by accident one time when I was trying to project but I was tired and my mind kept drifting off. I would catch it before it would go to sleep, and one time when I brought it back I was out of body. I think the good thing about this method is that you avoid experiencing the exit sensations which can be distracting and sometimes make one too excited to project.

I do not understand what you mean. Do you mean is it possible to have an instant projection? Like I am sitting here and think, "I will project now" and *bam* I am in the astral. Or do you mean to consciously leave your body without going to sleep and projecting through dreams?

I know it is possible to relax, get into a light trance and be able to leave. I also am pretty sure that it is possible to have an instant projection, but it may be difficult to get to that point. My first project (before I knew anything about projecting) happened pretty instantly and while I was awake sitting in a classroom. If it can happen once, I think it can happen again, though I have not been able to do it yet which I think is mostly because of myself and not anything else holding me back from doing it.

It does not seem that you can upload pictures. You have to link it. To do that you have to have your picture uploaded on another location that allows you to link it from there. Then you put the pictures URL where it indicates on your profile.

Yes, many thanks to Adrian. You do a great job and it is appreciated.

I do science and art. I am a drafter, so I draw technical, engineering drawings. Actually alot of it is 3D modeling now, but I still got to make it pretty and understandable on the print.

Are you implying that you know the meaning of life?

Sorry if I was not clear, but I did not mean name brand honey. I was talking about the name brands that are mentioned above like Gatorade, Colgate, Coke, etc. Does it have to be the name brand or will any toothpaste, etc work?

Another question, how do you know if your honey is unpasturized or not? I looked at my honey at home and all I could find on it was that it is 100% pure honey. It did not have anything about being pasturized or not.

And thank you for the links, Links.

Thank you for the info, ASunnieSpirit.

I do not remember the exact wording but I think this is close:

"History is a group of lies agreed upon." - Napoleon

Everyone has their opinin and will thus shape facts to agree with their opinions. This can happen consciously or subconsciously but it happens reguardless.

It is my thoughts that you do not leave your body, but merely move your consiousness or become aware of other planes. You already exist on the astral, mental, etc planes but you are not aware of those planes until you learn to focus your consciousness there. That is what I think anyway.

quote: The world (Earth) will end when our sun swells up and devours it in about another 5 billion years, so we got plenty of time to enjoy life right now.

The Earth will no longer be able to support life long before the Sun devours it, though. But that will not happen for a really long time either, though I cannot recall that time frome right now. But yes, we have plenty of time to enjoy life right now. And plenty once we are gone from Earth.

I have heard some great things about honey. I watched a show awhile back that said that the Egpytians used it to treat wounds. So I would say that if bacteria has not adapted to it in several thousand years they aren't going to.

Question: Do I have to use the name brand? I am cheap and like to buy generic.

What is a drop earring? Sorry, I don't know. What is it you are wanting? To wear a symbol to show that you look beyond the physical? I am not sure. Most symbols go with belief systems. I am not sure of one that is associated with astral projection. Maybe someone else will know. You could probably find something that represents a chakra, but I do not know if you are into energy work. Just get a shirt that says, "I would rather be Astral Projecting". []

quote:First off, yes time is only relative to ones own perspective. Further an object in motion can not be frozen in any one instance of time. No matter how small the frame of time the object in question travels some distance in that time frame.

So in essance time itself can never be static. It can not be seperated in to static increaments and arranged in order.


Does that make sence to everyone?

That makes sense to me.