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The AlphaOmega, I couldn't have put it better.

Projektr, sort of. The only things I recalled, after writing it down, was the fact that the room was dark - the man had khaki pants on, I was sitting on my bed listening carefully, and that I was shocked. But I don't remember a word he said. =(

Although, I get the feeling that if I actually remembered what he told me in the first place, I would most likely have a severe belief system crash.

Good point, Runlola.

Yeah, so do I. I thought everyone could see them?

Hmm...

I feel your agony. There have been many times when I would wake up and think, "Gee. I got to get this down FAST!!", only to lose all memory of what it was i was trying to write down in the first place, in a split-second.

It is frustrating. This happened to me a month or two ago. Some man kneeled beside me and started telling me these "extremely profound" things about EVERYTHING. Then when I woke up, all I could remember were my feelings and the mood at the time.

I guess, sometimes it's better not to remember. Maybe were not meant to remember it at the time. But then again, maybe it will come back to you. There are times when I forget my dreams upon awakening yet within 5 hours I will remember it. And then, theres those times where you start thinking about something and then it reminds you of something in a dream/experience, and BAM what do you know? You just remembered it. Although, if none of that happens, I suggest you write each experience down with an insane amount of details. Really dig deep into that mind of yours and you may bump into something interesting. If you cant remember what the person said who was reading the poetry, explain how you felt in great detail. This tends to help.

And the loud sigh thing is strange. I think that up to you to figure out though. A month (?) ago I woke up in the middle of the night to hear a mans voice say "Hurry Up". Who knows what it means.

Welp. That's all I got. Take care, and if you feel like it - share some more of those experiences. I'm all ears!

This post in the Permanent Topics section contained a great tip that got me into a pre-OBE state for the first time. I'm confident that I would have had an OBE had I not gotten so excited.

Before going to bed I did some affirmations and thought about a few of Monroe's stories to get myself into a positive mindset.

I hadn't felt strong vibrations before, they really caught me off guard.  

One variable which may have helped this technique was a lack of sleep the previous night. I have no idea whether it will work consistently.

OK first off. I totally forgot about that triangle method. I read it a long time ago, as in before I was a member of this forum. About a week ago I was trying to explain to someone my method of focusing inwards. The best way I could describe it as was by focusing your attention on the ringing noise as well as the blackness behind your eyes. Eventually, at least for me, there would be this shift, like suddenly the blackness became more... prominent and I was less aware of my physical environment. Had I known, or remembered, about that triangle method... well it just would've been much easier. Then all I'd have to do was give the the link. Thanks for bringing that up!!  (although... i think the triangle method may be a little different as far as terms go)

Just like you, there are times when I like to get in the right state of mind before practicing. So I'll do some affirmations here and there and even some reading to..."get the sparks flying". (lol that was so cheesy) Kind of funny (and cool) to see others start their...sessions the same way.
And yes, sometimes those vibrations can be a bit startling.  :scared2:

Anyway, you should definitely try the method a couple more times to see if it is indeed the cause of your success. Good luck!!

James, you raise an interesting point -- and question. If the point of living multiple lives is to learn and grow, then why do we not clearly remember each prior life? If you were learning math and each new day you forgot the previous day's lesson, how could you possibly learn?!  :confused:

Well, I'm learning and I don't know anything about my past/multiple lives. Although I like your analogy, in this case, maybe you should revise it.  

MM. Wasn't there already a post about this?

BTW: I honestly do not know what it is.

Look at this post for more info on this wonderful place "  Throw out our Hi-Fi" by Gandolf.  I would post the link but I am having trouble finding it.  The void is between the "astral" (subconscious) and the after life (f3).

You spelt Gandalf's name wrong. That's probably why you couldn't find it. Here is the URL:

http://www.astralpulse.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=158278&highlight=throw+hifi#158278

Knightlight, It makes me feel great to know, people such as yourself, have gone through similar things. As far as being on a whirlwind path goes- I definitely agree with you. That's exactly what happened. It's still difficult to piece the whole thing together - it was such a scattered experience.  :eyecrazy:

Selski, When I saw the # 3, it looked as if someone was tracing over it repeatedly, as if it was trying to be emphasized. But what gets me is the fact that we both thought it was backwards, when it clearly wasn't. It's just strange. (And for some reason, I feel like this explains something but...   I just can't put my finger on it :think:)

Kodemaster, where on EARTH did you discover those websites?! lol

cardio- I wasn't exactly trying to get out of body. In fact, I don't think I was even close. As I said earlier, my body was awake while I experienced the vibrations.

I haven't heard about intracranial sounds. I'll have to look into it.

lol, I agree.

I think he meant while in an OBE.

Yeah. I realized that towards the end of my first post. :shifty:

[Immediate consciousness]

"Frankly, IMO this approach is more mystical than the old-fashioned one; the old fashioned one should be called esoteric instead of mystical."
How so?

Dictionary.com definition of Mysticism:Immediate consciousness of the transcendent or ultimate reality or God.
The experience of such communion as described by mystics.
A belief in the existence of realities beyond perceptual or intellectual apprehension that are central to being and directly accessible by subjective experience.
As you can see this refers to direct communion with transcendence, completely subjective, without needing anything outside of self.  To me phasing is the perfect act of doing this. You go inward to gain the experience.
esoteric- means foreign, outside of.  In other words, going out of yourself to achieve the experience or knowledge.
OK?

Thanks for the clarification.

Eh. I don't understand. Are you asking advice on how to stay lucid during a dream or HOW to get lucid??

If so, here's whats worked for me:

Affirming that you will become lucid during your dreams and writing down all your dreams down every single day. As far as staying lucid goes... I've heard about starring at an object/spot for a long time and even. Ah i forgot the second one. Why don't you try checking out some lucid dreaming sites. I'm sure they have a lot of methods there.

Hope this helps!

Well, Friday night my friend Abby suggested we try to meet at this marketplace we used to go to. I decided it wasn't a bad idea.

It was 1:05 AM when I slipped in bed. Before I went to sleep I decided I would do a little reading. I looked over the notes I printed out earlier on lucid dreaming and my old dream journal entries. Eventually, I started to get tired so – I retired. Because I had previously spoken to Abby about meeting her at the marketplace, I figured I would do a little meditation first and then start the phasing process.  

I started off by pretending I was walking to the marketplace. I really tried to focus on the sensations associated with walking while at the same time visualizing my surroundings. Suddenly, everything became real. I recall seeing Abby sitting at the table in front of the marketplace waiting for me.  I couldn't believe how smooth and quick the transition was. It truly shocked me to see just how real everything was. As soon as I realized the shift had taken place, the scenario vanished and I found myself moving in an upwards motion. I was snapped back to my room.  

I find myself in my bed, faced downwards feeling the usual symptoms of a traditional OBE. In the blackness I saw a number "3" etched in pinkish-yellow light. I think to myself, "its backwards" (it wan't).  As I twirl in midair, I remember my mission to meet with Abby. I tried to get back to her but with no luck. Instead, I ended up being pulled upwards, through the ceiling and into the sky.

I wake up and think it's over. The lights are on and I pick up my i-pod. I decide to listen to it while I go back to sleep. I put on a Tool song. Soon, I start to feel strange sensations. My eyes are vibrating and moving back and forth, much like they would during REM sleep. My brain feels funny and my wrists are bulging. I soon find that my thoughts are creating my reality. Quickly, the realization that I was enduring a false-awakening dawns on me. Yet, I still wondered how the music sounded so real.

I must have lost a little lucidity here because when I went downstairs, I thought about getting a pen and paper to write down my experience down. When I reached the bottom floor, the house was lot bigger than usual. I saw my dad sleeping on the couch. He was non-responsive and I covered him with a blanket. For some reason, I had a strange desire to rearrange the (unfamiliar) chairs in the living room. The "dream" shifted and I soon found myself in Reno, Nevada.  

I was in some sort of dark building, on the first floor. I think it was an airport/cafeteria. It was nighttime. Suddenly, I'm looking at a bird's eye view of the town. It looks European. The "dream" shifts and I end up getting off of a bus. Two lesbian girls greet me, in which they ask me of my sexual orientation. I say I am straight.

I then start to tell them that I know I am in dream and that (struggling to find words) it's "not true". The girl to my left nods her head and looks down. Together, we leave the chubby lesbian girl (who also liked me) and walk to a bus waiting station and sit on a wooden bench. There is a roof overhead so the area is shaded. A bus comes by and splashes us with mud. I cover my face before it's too late. Playfully, the bus comes by again and tries to splash us. (Didn't work that time.)

Again, the dream shifts and I find myself on an "open roof bus" (thinking back on it now however, I think it was just a continuation of the dream – as I was still with the girl). The weather is rainy and to the left is a river. T here is a man (spanish) along with the girl and I. He tells me that I'm going to have to go on some wet rides at the theme park we were heading to. I say I'm not the bathing suit kind of girl and then ask, "What ever happened to bumper cars? Why can't we do something like that?" He decides that would be fine. Sadly for me, the dream changed before I got to ride the bumper cars.  

Anyway, I end up in this white house. There are duplicate homes within the home – although they are somewhat different in size. The house is all white. As I walk around, I see a sign on the pantry door which reads "Pan and Bread". I laugh to myself – for Pan in Spanish means the same thing as bread. In my room, I confront a large/medium mirror. I notice my pants are quite baggy. I then wake up (for real) at 3:05 AM.

I was "asleep" for approx. 2 hours.

If anyone's curious, I called my friend the next day to ask her what was her experience. She said she fell asleep but tried again in the morning when she woke up. She started feeling the vibes and focused on imagining the environment when she suddenly found herself at the marketplace sitting down at the table, watching me walk up to her. She said it was so exciting that she immediately woke up.

Questions, Comments or Concerns?

Do share.

I was trying to imagine what it was like for you today. That must have been eerie.

I guess I sympathize but at the same time, I completely agree with MajorTom. Cool Experience!!

The first hour or so upon awakening were spent testing reality and convincing myself I wasn't going to wake up again, consumed by the thought of that world, that reality.

Friday night started off with my first "true" phasing experience. From there, I had a lucid dream/s and a "lucid false awakening". By the time I woke up, I was so... used to the constant shifting of reality, that I had to make sure I wasn't dreaming again. I think for the first hour, I felt really strange. I can't describe it other than, just weird. Maybe this is the feeling your talking about...

It took me about 6 months before I finally "got out". And that was when I gave up.

I've noticed a lot of my progress has come from the simple act of writing my dreams down - and I mean all of them. Do you write them down?
If not, I suggest you give it a try for at least a month. Eventually, you'll find yourself lucid and who knows you just may go "OB"! At least, that's how it happened to me.

Best of luck!

I'm not sure but I remember watching this show a few months ago. This guy was trying to take a video of Area 51 off a mountain. He said that there used to be a mountain that was closer to Area 51 where people used to go to watch. Now however, if one were to get that close, the gov't would say you are trespassing (sp?).

If I had the time and energy ... I guess I could just drive there and find out for you. But that's just not gonna happen. One day though. One day lol.

OH. But as far as .. going there via OB or whatever, I guess you can give it a shot. I really don't see why you couldn't.

Thanks,  I'll check it out. I didn't even think I would get a reply...

Last night I was talking to a dream figure. I told her i was dreaming and when I did so, she simply looked down and nodded her head.

So, i dont know. She still stuck around for awhile though. Anyone think she was just a dream figure or real "person"?

"Frankly, IMO this approach is more mystical than the old-fashioned one; the old fashioned one should be called esoteric instead of mystical."

How so?

Ah. I forgot about Sigur Rós. Almost any song from from Ágætis Byrjun brings me back to the present moment. Right here. Right now.

[great]

Selski, you no longer believe suicide is an "appropriate" thing to do? OR...

Hi Leilah

I'm not sure now.  I know that because it was someone I knew, and because he told me not to "go down the same road", that will most definitely remain in my mind, therefore I don't think suicide will ever be an option for me personally, after having this experience.

However, Novice did bring up a good point, being that it may be that Jack thought suicide was in some way "inappropriate" and therefore based on his beliefs (and not mine), he doesn't feel 'worthy' to be in a place quite as nice as the one where we met.

I used to sit on the fence regarding suicide, then only in the last 6 months or so, I began accepting the belief that there is no stigma attached to it - it is just a personal choice amongst many that we make.  

Now I'm back on the fence    

What are your views?

Sarah

Eh. This is a toughie. For awhile, I was against suicide. I thought it was a waste of...experience. Lately however, I've come to the conclusion that it's simply another way of saying "It's time for me to leave". Because I haven't had any experiences-such as your recent one- to persuade me otherwise - I still think it's just one of the many routes possible in life.


"I tend to look at it like we all essentially commit suicide. "

PatternsComingToLife - As far as death goes, I 've always thought it was the person's decision to end their life - whether or not they knew it consciously. That's a great way of putting it.

Goodspeed..... have some pretty emotive songs. Great stuff : :thumbsup:

Definitely.