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No...if that is the end that is prophesized than its going to be interesting long before than...anything that has been a mystery will no longer be. And that cannot help but have serious consequences..But the end has been expected sooo many times. I live just to enjoy helping people find spirit. If i can just help one person it was worth it. and certainly i am no guru but we help each other to learn no matter how far on the path or what has been obtained or indeed lost. Ahhh almost forgot..thank you for the words   

I am sure astral projection will take you where you need to go...At the least it will open up your senses to be able to have the "download".

I dont think i posted up here yet about this...While in the service we used to run and run and umm run some more...I never went out of body but i used to seperate my mental capacities form my body just to keep the pain away...Its an exhilerating experiance...
Working out will help you with lucidity...Mind, body, spirit...dont ignore one to make gains elsewhere.
It will help your energy flow in unused joints and muscles...and it will make you more sensitive to energy.

The link i put is a Tibetan forum and has worked wonders for me...But hey we are all differant.

No problem man...My first awake out of body experiance occured while i was reading the art of dreaming. It has opened many doors for me. Ive posted about the experiance at obe discussions.

In the older cultures it was differant. Many time confronting the ego was not so hard. Determining karma levels was much easier. There was no where near the "evil" so near and present as now. Mind body and spirit must be a perfect pyramid. And now its so much fast food and materialism and wrong sex acts that spirit is lost to the overbearing manipulation of us through television, school, and of course governing policies. Trying to dwell on this plane and understand spirit is truly a worthy task. I applaud anyone that gives it an effort. I make it my life and can finally see how negative our spirit is affected by the above and other crap......We truly live in a wonderful world but its contents are fallen very far. 

For the purpose of re-approaching the topic. Being able to see after your eyes are closed is approaching an out of body experiance...Many times in training and after i spend time inbetween the sleep and awake state...this twilight state is great practice and will result in seeing through the shut eye often enough. Fire as it is a pure form of energy is hard to see threw because after you are in the dream state your360°
vision and seeing threw things is a result of  seeing energy.

Naps and the morning are great times. It sounds to me like you just need to have Intent. Keep yourself in that state beyond the minute or two. You will after a bit be able too work your way into a dream of whatever you thought about while in the "twilight". Or just fall asleep with intent to have your concious self there. Its tough. If you really want to get down to it. Read The art of dreaming by Carlos Castaneda. I feel that you may be in a good spot for that book. It will help with the reality and help you to see that there are more physical worlds like our own. And also dream worlds. All it takes is a slight movement of the assemblage point and you will slip from one reality to the next. But trust me each one is as real as the one you go to work or school in.

I do understand you. We are illusion to an extent...Because what we SEE is only part of the story. Most dont see the big picture. But as practitioners of the arts that is our job. To see through the veil of school and the lies.

Thank you peacful warrior. We do agree on some things...

As with most occult writing though it will be hard for me to prove anything. I can only swear to you that as a traveler i can see the energy of everything. And of course if you can see auras that is nothing but energy you are witnessing.
Let me find more my friend. Im going to take it that you are not a dreamer? dreamer being obe, ld, or remote viewing?
So i have showed that the soul is energy and you already know that water is and wind and gases and electricity. What is it that you say is not energy? Just the Physical vehicle that we reside in while on earth? If that is so you know that we are 95% water? And even science can show you water is not but energy....You know in many cases science does believe all is energy as well? 

Here is another link showing our energy. And at the end it mentions that a debate still between science and us that we are literally energy. http://www.7gen.com/chi-prana-the-human-energy-field-and-the-universal-energy-field

again you have to understand much of what pagans (myself included) study and believe is negated by science or as nothing more than a joke. For instance most of what you read in myth is true. The day and age that it was written in is during the persecution of many "witches" and so they hid the true meanings of things in myth. Is it fact? not as far as science is concerned. But as a traveler i know that much of myth has been prooven to be true. Can i prove it? Nope. I only have my belief and that is unfaltering. I know that much of my belief can only be proven as a traveler. But i do know that the world as we know it to be is SO much more.

You are coming back to yourself with no memory of where you were except for the last little bit of the experiance. Its pretty common until you practice your recall more...Spend some more time while in the twilight zone between falling asleep and waking up study the experiances and if you can when you wake up dont move at all. Than try and picture what just happened with more clarity. 

Yes...The majority that say they are christian i think really dont even know what it is...Its just so popular to be that its what they say. And you are right the ones who go tho church have a motive. And really have to be there because its popular or they are worried what everone else would think. Again there are christians who are just what they say too for them i have nothing but respect..It really is a hard path.

http://www.meditationiseasy.com/app/energy.htm

Heres enough to keep you busy for a long while...search though and dont just rest on what i like.
http://swamij.com/index.htm

We are not an illusion we exist...just realize that everything around us (the world as we know it) is nothing like what we think...Including ourself.

Look i KNOW atoms are more than photons.....And i know that science can prove that you can hang an elephant off a cliff by tieing its tail to a flower also. But they cannot prove many things as of yet and are wrong about a good many things also. We are all energy...im done with you now...

Uhhh ok you hang out at a place like this and dont care about spirituality...looser dont tell me to stfu...
DONT waste my time with responses like that. If you dont care than just keep your hole shut.

Meditation and continued dream work...

Religion is the human way of trying to help people understand spirituality...You can see that it was meant to have good purpose..but now its all about what every DAMN thing is about...MATERIALISM and money.

No matter what you will have the YIN and the Yang of it...Its to be expected.

    Yes why yes it does...And some Absinthe too. Lol havent had that since i was in the service   wooo good stuff.

The shaman uses these and calls them Ally...we use them and get arrested and tossed in jail...But than i can choose to drink until i cant remember my name and as long as i dont drive...im good to go.

Gnostic= Knowledge. I am a seeker of true knowledge. If it includes a religion so be it. religions will be the end of all of us but hey we made um up in the first place so a guess we have to live with it. 

Not that i know of. the warrior soul is very much appreciated in all his books though...as is the sorcerer.

Sorry bryn i have yet to read anything on the toltec path except the Castaneda books.

Very nice....I appreciate anyone "sensitive" enough to feel the energy in themself. And especially the manipulation there of while in meditation. 

LOL i have no need to prove anything that i have seen for myself...Silly boy.

It is SO simple though. If you are science or if you are the occult its as easy as everything that exists is in motion correct? Even a plastic bottle? Whats motion ENERGY, Whats light? ENERGY, WHATS frequency, sound, vibration? ENERGY. The human is simply made up of light. In each of our atoms in the body is a photon...a point of light...AGAIN light is energy. Energy is never able to ever be completely disolved from existance it just changes form or shape RIght? As with water, as with gases, and electricity everything. Including US we are never gone...we die and our soul lives FOREVER, our physical body is taken into the earth and reused in whatever.

If you were an traveler you would already know this. You can see it.

Each of us is the supreme being. Thats why it is warned biblically to never worship other humans and idles...we all have a perfect bit of god in us. Even god has said as much.