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First I was simply visualizing an overlapping blackboard in my immediate field of view and I was writing my daughters name in the over lapping area of to the left.

Then I moved on and physically turned my head to the left and fixed my focus in that direction and then I slowly moved my head back to facing forward. Once my head was facing forward I felt like I was still looking to the left which left me disassociated with my physical body.

Then I felt the energy wave across my body and felt slightly out of phase and that's when I sat up out of body.

I am not really sure what happened with you, it sounds like something happened, but it's unfamiliar.

When I go into sleep paralysis it feels like a wave of something passes over my body and i am left feeling like I am buried in concrete. When you feel this it's unmistakable. You will not be able to move your physical body regardless of how hard you try.

Please continue posted your progress, I am very interested in your results.

Best Regards

David

Psan, Indeed!,

I actually purchased both the saltcube.com videos and then the new lucidology-102. The timer has worked for me as well.

You should consider buying lucidology-102, it's worth the 35 dollars.

Best Regards

David

Did he like take an pre adoption name or what? That is strange.

Hi SoulsNirvana,

Welcome aboard!

I used to call myself a Christian because I was brainwashed from 0 to 18 years of age in a Catholic school. I always found the teachings odd and contradictory. I spent from age 18 to age 32 trying to fit my observations and experiences into the various "religions / belief systems".

I started experimenting with AP 3 months ago and after my first journey out of my body I finally woke up and realized that 32 years of spiritual development had been flushed down the toilet.

Religion exist to:

a) Make money
b) Gain power over others
c) Guide people who can't think for themselves
d) Attempt to understand life / universe / existence.
e) Make people feel better.

Religions lack in the ability to provide any proof and rely of faith while astral projection can be experienced first hand and allows one to form their own opinion of existence. Christianity specifically uses fear to force people into submission and is based on century old writings. The truth (if there ever was any) has been lost in interpretation.

I could go on for hours but I will stop here. You're best option (in my opinion) is to throw all religions in the trash. Don't waste this time around.

Best regards

David

I thought his name was Matt Jones?

Just in case someone happens across this thread, my blog URL has changed to http://www.malleablelight.net

Hi Lawnmower Man,

Welcome back to the forum!

You know, I have never read anywhere about or experienced a shaking bed on re-entry. I would just consider my self lucky and go with it.

Do you think you would be able to record the shaking on video?

Best Regards

David

Here's my latest progress.

My goal 2 days ago was simple. I was to go to bed at 9 PM and then wake up around 2 - 5 AM and begin listening to the saltcube rhythm napping timer ramp with a 4 minute base. The track is 2 hours and 12 minutes and can be found in the new Vol. 2 saltcude series at lucidology.com. My plan was to use these timers to have a series of OBEs so that I can get used to astral projection and how it feels. The new series builds on the previous series and is very complex and advanced for my level. Having a series of short OBEs might not be profound but I have plently of time for that and I think I should be taking baby steps at this point.

I actually got in bed around 9:30 PM and then automatically woke up at 2 AM after setting the intent. I started the timer and then struggled for what seemed like an hour trying to block out distractions. I then decided to use some of the advanced visualization techniques that I watched in the new series last night and within minutes I felt a wave of energy surge through me really quickly. This energy didn't feel like vibrations at all, it was similar to goose bumps.

I wasn't sure if I was free from the physical so I sat up in bed and looked down at the pillow to see if I was still laying on it and to my delight I was! It was the classic OBE, I was sitting up in bed looking at my sleeping body with my physical body and astral body overlapping at the hip. The most incredible part of this was the fact that I could hear my physical body breathing and I was not controlling it at all. It was the most amazing thing ever. I literally sat and stared at my body sleeping for at least 5 minutes. This kind of goes against the "don't think about your body" scenario that pulls you back in.

I finally decided to move away from the bed and by simply thinking about it I was instantly standing by the door leading out of the room. I started walking down the hall and for the first time I had the urge to look down at my astral arm. It was solid black, like looking off into space. I then reached out and touched the wall and expected my arm to pass through it but it didn't, instead I felt the texture of the wall moving across my hand as I moved.

I continued downstairs and when I got there it was not my current living room, it was the living room of my ex-girlfriend's old rental house from 2001. I got kinda ticked at that point because she was a total grump that hung me out to dry in 2003 when I went into the hospital. I decided that I needed to leave.

I remembered that there are people in waking life who want validations so I tried to focus on their faces one at a time but I was not able to go anywhere. I gave up and started looking for a door out of there and sure enough, the same door that was there in 2001 was right there waiting on me. I could see very bright light bursting through the cracks around the door and I knew that if I opened it, I would be blinded. I started walking towards the door and the room started getting darker. I commanded clarity and awareness but the experience faded out and I woke up.

Can you send it as a rote while I am out of body?

Hi Tayesin,

"I don't think we've met." I am reading your book right now, I'm just 20 pages into it and like it so far. I would have to agree with your whole philosophy about throwing away the chains of society and letting yourself be open to experiencing things outside the box.

I made a quote a few weeks ago, "My religion, if any, is not of faith but of direct fluctuating experience." I think that the biggest cause of stunted spiritual growth, social turmoil and war are differing religious views and beliefs. The sad part about it is that normally the beliefs that people follow are just another persons opinion and not even something they have thought much about.

So it is quite ironic that followers of popular established beliefs cast judgments on other people's unorthodox beliefs because there may not be any immediate evidence to support it but at the very same time, the "opinion" that they follow has no real concrete evidence in observable physical reality either.

I will continue reading and will provide feedback.

Best Regards

David

Yeah, I requested the book and never received it. I didn't give my physical address so please send it to the e-mail address that I provided.

When I reach out it's with my mind. It's similar to moving the physical arm or anything else, you just do it. Don't think about how, just make it so.

Hi allskillage,

Welcome to the forum!

I wish I had started my spiritual journey when I was your age . Kids these days are so far ahead of me. Anyway I guess that's just the way it goes.

To answer you question about astral projection being the answer to life, it's my belief that consciousness projects itself in many different forms to experiences many different dimensions. One of these dimensions happens to be your physical dimension. Remember that this is my viewpoint and others including yourself may disagree totally and that's a good thing.

Here's the best technique I have found for projecting so far, I am copying and pasting from another post I responded too earlier.

a) Don't try at the beginning of your night. Try between 3 and 4 AM. Set the intent that you will wake up at that time.
b) When you wake direct your focus to the fact that you are awake and then get comfortable.
c) Start noticing your breathing and start feeling yourself becoming heavy. On each breath out pause at the end of the exhale and watch your body fall asleep and you continue to feel yourself getting heavy. This may take several cycles of breathing in and out.
d) You will feel your body become paralyzed. This is because you body is sleeping while your mind is not.
e) Stay calm and with your mind reach out 2 to 3 feet in front of you and direct energy into your body and you will feel vibrations enter your body.
f) Stay calm and with your mind get up out of bed and walk away from your physical body.

I would advise for you to try this technique over and over for at least a month before trying anything else.

Hope this helps.

David

Hi jimmy979,

Welcome to the forum!

I actually started trying to project about 3 months ago so my memory is still fresh on what works for me . The following technique seems to work best.

a) Don't try at the beginning of your night. Try between 3 and 4 AM. Set the intent that you will wake up at that time.
b) When you wake direct your focus to the fact that you are awake and then get comfortable.
c) Start noticing your breathing and start feeling yourself becoming heavy. On each breath out pause at the end of the exhale and watch your body fall asleep and you continue to feel yourself getting heavy. This may take several cycles of breathing in and out.
d) You will feel your body become paralyzed. This is because you body is sleeping while your mind is not.
e) Stay calm and with your mind reach out 2 to 3 feet in front of you and direct energy into your body and you will feel vibrations enter your body.
f) Stay calm and with your mind get up out of bed and walk away from your physical body.

I would advise for you to try this technique over and over for at least a month before trying anything else.

Best regards

David

Hi stevj016,

I just wanted to point out that some of the books I mentioned above are not directly related to astral projection. I think we must consider other things too when trying to achieve our goals. I have listed books related to energy work and intention too.

Best Regards

David

My astral projection journey started about 3 months ago and I have radically changed myself since then.

I have an inner knowing that astral projection is valid so I am not looking for validation so much (Although I have tried to validate for other per their request).

What I am looking for is to go home and be part of the cosmic collective again. I astral project to prepare myself for the state between death and reincarnation and for graduation from earth. It's my belief that humans are in the process of evolving to purely spiritual beings and astral projection is part of that process.

So in other words, astral projection to me is much more than a cool trick and it's much more than us on this planet (IMHO).

Best regards

David

Hi oneironaught,

This happens to me a lot. What I do and it works every time is start yelling "AWARENESS AND CLARITY NOW!" over and over and site fades in. When I do this I can hear my voice each time.

Best Regards

David

I was actually an oddball and read Monroe's books in reverse . It's somewhat easier to see inconsistencies that way, although I have found only a few.

The terminology he used seemed to have evolved over time.

[d. 1919]

Oh and btw,

Do a text search for Father Bo on this page.

http://www.interment.net/data/us/mo/pettis/highpoint.htm

Hoplins, T. Spencer, Father, b. 1850, d. 1923
Hughes, Charley, b. 1868, d. 1944
Hughes, James W., b. Mar 27 1883, d. May 13 1950
Hughes, Katherine L., God Bless Our Baby, b. Sept 6 1960, d. Oct 17 1906
Hughes, Myrta S., Mother 1855, d. 1934
Hughes, Sadie L., b. Mar 9 1891
Hughes, Sigal H., Father Bo 1862, d. 1919
Hughes, Therman T., b. Feb 8 1908, d. Oct 28 1937, WWII
Hughes, Virginia B., b. 1880, d. 1951
Hughes, Walter W., Son, b. 1924, d. 1940

Hi ancient_one,

This is one of the best OBEs I have read on here so far. This sounds to me like you were "Father Bo" in a previous life. Based on what I have read "not experienced" the space time illusion is strictly a physical thing. When you project you throw away those physical attributes and break the chains of time.

I remember reading Monroe's "Far Journeys" and he actually gets a glimpse of himself as a first timer on earth and I think it was on he 3rd or 4th incarnation that he actually chooses to be born back in time. You have to read his later book "Ultimate Journey" to realize this.

Just something to think about and congrats on the great experience.

Best Regards

David

Hi stevj016,

My suggestion is to read every book on the subject. I started learning astral projection 3 months ago and here is what I have read so far.

• Adventures Beyond the Body: How to Experience Out-of-Body Travel by William Buhlman
• Far Journeys by Robert Monroe
• Journeys Out of the Body by Robert Monroe
• Out-of-Body Experiences: the Vehram Energy System
• The Intention Experiment: Using Your Thoughts to Change Your Life and the World by Lynne McTaggart
• Ultimate Journey by Robert Monroe

Here are the books that I have bought and plan to read next.

• Astral Dynamics: A New Approach to Out-of-Body Experiences by Robert Bruce
• Our Ultimate Reality, Life, the Universe and Destiny of Mankind by Adrian P. Cooper
• Elegant Empowerment: Evolution of Consciousness by Peggy Phoenix
• Voyages into the Unknown (Exploring the Afterlife Series, Vol. 1) by Bruce Moen
• Voyage Beyond Doubt (Exploring the Afterlife Series , Vol 2) by Bruce Moen
• Voyages into the Afterlife (Exploring the Afterlife Series, Vol. 3) by Bruce Moen
• The Secret of the Soul: Using Out-of-Body Experiences to Understand Our True Nature by William L. Buhlman (Author)

The key to success is dedication, practice and immersion. Don't sell yourself short by picking one source of information and think you have found the know all end all.

Find people in your town that share the same interest and meet them and talk about astral projection. Read on the internet about it. Think about it all the time.

For me it's AP for the rest of this life and into the next.

Best Regards

David

No out of body for me last night, I could not get relaxed enough when I woke up and then sleep crept up on me.

I will try again tonight.

I remember having several lucid dreams about a year ago, before I was aware of astral projection and the likes. One in particular I found to be very amusing.

I was having a strange dream where I was standing on the side of a huge grassy hill. The section of the hill where I stood was about the size of two football fields, there was trees up the hill from me about 300 feet away and a castle in ruins about 100 feet from me in the opposite direction.

I was with several members of my family and I remember that huge asteroids started raining down from the sky and I thought on several occasions that I was a goner.

My only option was to get the hell out of dodge so I took off running up the hill and around the trees on the left side. As I passed by the trees the sky grew dark and I noticed that thousands of demons were behind me and closing in quick. I continued running and I noticed that they had caught up and were above the trees to my right and were on the grassy hill to my left. There were now millions of these creatures approaching and I was on the brink of panic when something clicked.

I realized that such overwhelming odds could not be real and then knew I WAS DREAMING. I suddenly felt empowered by this knowledge and simply thought to myself "Cast these demons into space!" and within less than a second I witnessed all of them flying off into the sky. I remember laughing to myself out loud in the dream about how pathetic they were and felt a sense of freedom saturating me. My waking thoughts were present and my analytical mind attached.

I took off flying and remember soaring over ancient towns for several minutes and then fell back into a normal dream state.

So what do you think? Was this like the prelude to my current journey for a deeper understanding or just a random event.

Best Regards

David

Lots of activity on this thread. I have not been trying the Vehram system lately because I have been slammed at work and my daughter keeps waking me up.

I was able to exit my body the first time I tried this technique however. Tonight I am going to hope and pray that I can sleep uninterrupted and I want to consciously think about each exhale taking me closer to paralysis and imagine my body becoming heavy like I did the first time.

I would like to say that when I succeeded the paralysis came before the vibrations. I could actually feel my body transition into sleep and become paralyzed. I then simply willed the energy into my body and I was able to exit.

I think that by reading all of these posts and then writing this, I have set the intent and that I will exit tonight. I will report tomorrow with the details.

Best regards

David