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Mirador told me!!.. his psychic you know...oh and his also oversexed so ask him about that astral Dungen. He's probably got one going already with he's mates   []

[I AM]

Hello Links Shadow
What can I say.. you inspired me []
I AM
Incarnated amidst madness
Anonymously maintained innocence
Manifested intelligent adaption
Mirrored ironical acceptance
Achieved miraculous innovations
Involving adult minds

hello Alchimiste
LoL your last bio had me in stitches,  alas I think I'm to borning to spice up. But you my dear Alchimiste are a deep river of paradox that twist and weaves through many delightful valleys.
who's smurking  now LoL []

Hello Nay
I guess thats why we have a laugh every now and then, the bond between artist as we see life. []
I tried uploading one project but it wouldn't go through. So I will have to utilize my other passion, namely writing which is ironic because I cannot spell to save myself.I love the idea of painting pictures on the canvas of the mind but that is more of a private love affair, poems and short storys. I suppose my angle in art has always been from a fantasy view. How the grass hopper would see the world or how the morning mist would changed and swirl if a fae danced apone the dew. I've used oils and water colour and a novice to be sure. Over the couple of years, yes it takes me that long to do anything I've combind all my vices into one. Alas it was the one project that I wanted to share with you and couldn't upload. I would like to discrib it as a living 5 dimensional scuplure. I may go into detail another time, enought  ranting  about what I like. So your scanners on the blinck too LoL I look forward to seeing your work when able.
Maybe when Adrian and Bruce start the e Book you could have an E Gallary link, of cause you will have special open days for obe only. []
Take care Nay []

[] LoL no I'm not really... hang on... they are nice though...I might be back soon when I make up my mind  []

[] yippy I'm going for GOLD STAR'S []

Hello Alchimiste
I read the thread you linked to and can see you know much of the magic path for want of a better expression. I see things from a different view I'm not saying it is better than anyone else's teaching's or deep studies. I was not taught anything that I've posted it has come by way of knowing within myself and personal experience I've  compared it others beliefs for testing and found it rings true for me. I do not ask anyone else to believe me, and in turn I am not subjected to believing others.
The magic path is not for me but self examination and personal experiences lead me on my path. In my post I experienced many spiritual revelations that were mind alone, personal. The fact that the Bible words were of great help in explaining my experiences as is this link and many other sign post along the way  http://www.mythsdreamssymbols.com/shadow.html gives me a clearer footing as I walk my path to evolve spiritualy. you have your way as do all people, I hope it leads you all to were you want to go. I'm not religious but believe in what I've experienced with the Holy Spirit, my choice and I'm happy with it. []

I would like however to know how you came about this theory

Quote# in reply to your question on whether someone filled with the holy spirit can be possessed or not..............I would say no it would not be possible, depending upon the level of the holy spirits presence.(that is how much of the body is in resonance with the holy spirit)
To be invested by the holy spirit is a rebirth of the being on a cellular level, the old cells are transformed by the high vibratory quality of the Holy spirit that causes the body cells to resonate in harmony with itself and thus raise the vibratory frequence of the body.

Are you yourself Spirit filled to draw this conclusion on personal experience,  and if so you cannot conclued that your theory binds every Spirit filled person. Apart from that good luck in what ever you believe.

Hello Mustardseed
I just wanted to clarify my view on this

Quote# The Holy Spirit cannot habitate a body at the same time as a demon or other spiritual entity.

we are warned in the Bible to walk in the Spirit so that evil can not touch us so to speak, so I fill this could still happen to some degree in that we might do something against our better judgment and later wonder why we did it at all hence the term "I don't know what possessed me to do that". I haven't seen head spining possessions like the movies only the presence of 'bad vibes' and the fruits their of within ppl. I maybe naive in this as you have had much more experience than me in this area but I believe once joined with God in Christ through the Holy Spirit no one can separate that bond connection , marriage. If we do wrong we answer to the Lord but we cannot be seperated by 'man' because the Lord is faithful and he cannot deny himself, in marriage the two become one. Again I think it depends on the term possession or demons, for me it is the shadow ego that manifest itself until we deal with it but I might be really wrong about that. I am after all basing it on my own self examination and the neg's that wonder the lower astral levels are either a combination of astral projections of ppls shadow ego or disembodied soles that have not one the battle in life over their shadow ego. If that makes sence then everyone has their shadow ego and are dealing with it and these shadow egos might be attached to other astral dwelling  shadow ego's hence possession.
In conclusion everyone has their shadow ego, Spirit filled or not everyone. I even think Jesus had his shadow ego which ppl call satan.
I will give you a very personal example of what the Lord showed me only months after been Spirit filled. I  awoke from sleep OOB standing in my backyard naked I was surrounded by bright light I was painful conscious of the fact that the Lord was watching me but I had no control over my actions my shadow was in control and mainifested itself lustfuly. Then my consciousness was seperated from my physical form and I could see  my shadow form in first person view, in this state I was mentaly seperate from  it but I senced it moods, psychi again I had no control as it moved away from the light and over the fence.The experience ended there  but I was shocked by the hole ordeal for years and you all are the first to know of it happening. I've come to realize I was possessed by my shadow the Lord showed me the beast within that I must overcome, the evil in all men even the Spirit Filled .    
Let me know what you all think about this I know it's pretty heavy reading and I hope I explained it clearly.

Hello Neg Removal5
I'm a Spirit filled Christain But have in recent year's been weakened by my own personal faults mainly smoking and the odd beer. When I received the Holy Spirit the desire to smoke or the addiction was taken away by my request, I asked this before I received the Holy Spirit as a confirmation of the lords power within me. I hope that makes sence it was a gift of sorts. I did restart smoking again from my own "free will" after year's of been free from it, stupid I know and now I'm fighting the addiction and giving up smoking to grow strong in the Spirit again. (Addiction is not free will.)
I'm telling you this for a reason, I'll explain later bear with me.
I read a book on obe, in it the author describes coming home from one of her obe travels to find her husban asleep after drinking heavily, as was his habit. She  found a neg deeply attached to him and after much effort fought it from him but it said "it would be back because it was invited ". This alone makes me question my own addiction, have 'I invited a neg too' as smoking is no longer my free will and I'm fighting it. I guess I'm saying IMO Spirit Filled ppl can be oppressed, weakened even possessed. Having said that it depends on what one thinks of in these terms. I don't see satan as the horned monster most Christians believe, my view is some what unconventional. I have posted it else were on the forums.
I have not come across many neg's while AP/obe...I came close  I think but moved away from the area. I have while in lucid dreams battled human forms and also once fought a succub (sp) after returning from obe. But how can all this help your friend. While in my spiritualy weakened state I still know the power of the Lord and surround and myself with his light perhaps this is why I haven't seen that many neg's around while obe. But I do know when I'm near someone in the physical with, shell we say a bad vibe connected to them and funny enough they sence me too.
So if you fill I can help in some way I will with my limited knowledge. Goingslow made an excellent suggestion and I have some myself but I will wait for your reply.
Take care Neg Removal5

Hello Windameir
I'm a newbie around here.  Welcome back and I look forward to catching up with you on the forums []

Hello Ronaldo
Here's a few tips for your success in finding Elvis in the astral
First fill up on Mac Donalds then get confortable
State your intent eg " I want to meet the King Elvis Presley"

followed by the mantra " Ahuh..Ahuh" repeat this until you fill the vibrations, your hips may start thrusting and legs wobbling but go with it and last but not least stay off his blue swayed shoes.
Your going to Graceland  my friend []

Hello Kodemaster
Great topic I don't see why it couldn't be done, they have pictures of ppl's aura's and I can see aura's myself. Maybe some of these orbs in pictures are really ppl obe travelling in sleep, unaware ?
Makes you think dosn't it []

Hello Alezunde
The online book by Robert Peterson has touched on this. lol sorry about the pun [] In one obe he had  found it very hard to go through his window, later in the physical he noticed a battery torch on the window ledge. Could it be that electromagnetic fields transcend the physical, bridge the gap and maybe be manipulated in the astral ?
If that is so then I'd like to hear from ppl that AP/obe from lying on a electric blanket!!!
sorry if this is off track

Hello Neg Removal5
I haven't  read all of the drama that has unfolded with your threads, I kind of lost interest after reading half your orginal post and then seeing them repeated I didn't bother  reading at all, I'm sorry because I thought it was all a bit humorous and have posted in regards to it. But now your plight has touched me you mentioned your friend needs help! I can't help but think if you mentioned this earlyer it would have saved us all alot of grief and anger. Maybe you did I'm not sure but if you did it was obscured by anger.... by all concerned. Your request for idea's are noble but repetitve posting unwise when ppl don't know the reason, hopfuly now they do..."your friend needs help" I hope we all can put aside anger and help this person in trouble , not with repetitive posting and not with angery replys but with  open honest help in one forum .

Neg Removal5 can you tell us what is troubling your friend and what have you or others tried to do to help so we can all have a heads up on how best to help.
Again I'm sorry for the pain you must have felt all this time with trying to find help .
sincerely Paul

It appears Mirador has entered the realms of "Dark Matter"
I believe it existes in the void  between he's ear's
bye bye Mirador

Hello Thing
Well done, experiencing obe sensations for the first time are very exciting thank you for telling us about them. Read more about it and maybe next time "let go" relax and enjoy the AP/obe. You  probably were at the door as it were to complet seperation, that would explain most of what you discribed. good luck

Mirador you should have add a PS to your post along the lines of this as a sugestion
PS
posted by one of the bigest Quacks and fear mongers [}:)]

Hello Grregis
Great post and experience, "Congratulations" []

Hello Nay
You cheeky girl....[] I saw your referels in the Mysticweb forums. I wonder if anyone could tell us if they change the pass words often every year or is it just this course that they are jumpy  about.
ps for those that are locked out astral pulse has the AP course in the library  hmmmm no cheating now you know you have to what a full week before learning new bow techniques [] lol sorry couldn't help myself[]
Take care Nay, be Good []

Hello Imogen
I can tell you what happened with me and if you read my other post about this  you will get an overall picture on my opinion. I will try and be brief so here we go.  "The revelation of Christ, one mans story"
I was told about Jesus while traverling. I didn't like Church's because of the hypocrisy I saw, but thought ok if you say you can prove your beliefs I'd see for myself. I went to a house meeting and watched, listened and read the Bible with an open mind to confirm or debate  what I found. The meeting was based on how they conducted the meetings in Pauls letters. Opening  prayer and songs then a scripture talk and then the "gifts" one person would speak in tongues then another would interperate as promted by the Holy Spirit. This was repeated three times usually by a different person so all can have a part in using the "gifts" then three ppl would prophyesy in turn and then they prayed for things like the sick and so on (no falling over here). It was all very orderly and confirmed in the Bible . So far so good I thought. So I made arrangments  to be Baptized as it was written in the Bible full immersion. The next sunday at the school were they held there meetings at, no big budget just basic  fellowship. The days leading up to Sunday I asked God several times 'into my life' and wondered about the "gifts" if I would have them too after the Baptism. Sunday came and the meeting was the same as the house meeting. At the end of the meeting I was sitting praying to the Lord for someone else's needs  when I received the Holy Spirit. It was like a flood of love, knowledge  and awareness of God filled my every being, the hollow void within me was ablaze with light. A tear touched my cheek with all the joy I felt. Then the ppl sitting next to looked at me and said " you received the Holy Spirit" I answered and said "I know".
I am a quite person by nature so didn't make a big show of speaking in tongues when I came up from the water's of Baptism. Later when alone I let all my sole and being converse with the Lord God by speaking in tongues. I didn't know the words I spoke but that is the hole point, my mind can't interfere with human faults, thinking. But I felt the power of the Holy Spirit in doing it and still do to this day when I speak in tongues. To farther confirm Gods presents within me and the fellowship, any questions I had I wouldn't ask other ppl but the Lord directly, privately then God would answer me directly in the "gifts" section of the weekly meetings. I have placed my hands on ppl in prayer and all have felt a power, nothing to do with me but It's the Holy Spirit that confirms it's presents, leaving no doubt in my mind. That said... religion, the Bible and church can still be influenced by man/woman leaving doubt for ppl to trust it (man ideal's on how to run things). I can't say or certain that the Bible has not been changed, all I know is that the Holy Spirit proves without doubt the love and power  of God in Christ IMO. []
Take care Imogen  

Hello Timeless
You could log on to the UK teen chats on msn and maybe throw some wording in there to gauge there reactions, phrasing and sentence formation. The only UK slag I can think of is "bollocks" but I'm geting old, lol so it might be dated.[]
All the best Timeless

Hello Nay
LOL I wouldn't question your innocence Nay. []
hmmm  this is just a passing thought but AP/obe'ers if so inclind have two bodys 'to get it on" []
but the psychics are voyeuristic by definintion  [:I] ohh I don't like where this is going ...lol

Hello Imogen
At lest your not alone with this problem, maybe use the search tool with 'tention' or simular wording for past replys on this topic/ problem. I have felt tugging of my arms and sometimes my entire body is encased in a tention like a shell. I guess you will have to try different why to relax eg when lying down have your palms up or face down, slightly bend your arms instead of forced straight, little things add up.
good luck Imogen

Hey everyone
I just wanted Mirador to expand on his post.To stand up for what he thinks, instead of the post and run away  mentality he has.
Here's an example and I'm only bring it up because everyone seems to ignore it  http://www.astralpulse.com/forums/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=5059
Mirador has made post that have been genuine and hopfuly helped. but when ppl post crap and no one questions it I get a little annoyed...
sorry Nay [] and everyone else that has there mood dampened by my replys to Mirador. The young and gullible, wise and searching ppl need to see both sides of ppl's post.
So  Mirador please don't scream and run away crying foul, and  truely I'm sorry for my harshness in replying but you can understand my reasoning I'm sure.

quote:Originally posted by Mirador

All my postings have been done with the sincere desire to contribute to the threads,

As I said your post speak for themself contradicting your opening line, are you a shamed of your posts that you now try and invoke sympathy. My questions still stands unanswered "what are you saying Mirador?"