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I guess I am being a bit defensive btw Nay you arn't the only one I used to be abused by "real people". I remeber my dad would give me spelling lessons and I didnt say the Capital A in America He hit me upside the head. That is long past now and I'm sure it's the same for you(I hope). I'm only defensive about my age because I was honest in saying that I am 13 though there are still enough people who think that scince they are adults they can't learn things from us.

Also the reason why young people and old people cracks are different. Young people make fun of 80 year olds. Also they usually don't tell it to thier face. I am 13 and know that is young and I get told right here. Also Older people are more experienced(for the most part) therefore I've always seen that there word matters more in the eyes of the crowd.

lol Nay see now you are insulting my age again. Re read this part.

Does it give you a feeling of self worth in some way?
Does it give you a adrenaline rush to think one is after you?
Is it so un-cool to think happy thoughts these days??

You are saying that from thinking something you don't think we get a feeling of self worth what the hell Nay how would looking at a photograph and believing that it might actually be something give us a feeling of self worth. When did anyone say it was after us. And the truth is that today there arn't many happy thoughts to much war rapists, and sick sick people. Sure it's good to look at the good stuff sometimes but you have to look at the bad stuff to because that is what effects you the most.

lol what are you talking about???

I'm afraid thats just a afterimage(the picture) kinda like when you stare at a light for a while. If you move your eyes and the image follows then it is just a afterimage =)

Awww man to tired to read that whole thing sounds interesting though a haunting maybe if it were a possesin I could help I've studied some magic protection spells and could probably make a Artifact(probably).

Man Nay I am just now realizing what a closed mind you have you don't think outside the box. Your to logical. As Van once said did ki and astral projection ever seem real at first. What makes me mad Nay is that you either have little patience with people or if someone doesnt believe what you believe in you get mad at them. I mean that last post was pretty vicious maybe you should reread it. BTW apples and organes are both fruits =)

There is something underneathe its body it looks like gates or something it is deffinatley a real picture as in not a drawing but the "demon" is kinda blurred and hard to make out.

Alpha we have made extinct many of gods creatures and we can do the same to ourselves.

I'm not sure but I think I was the one who pioneered this topic to astral pulse a long long time ago. Here is my Idea. The Astral(demons) and the Physical(us) Will collide and the Astral will turn physical. I also believe this happened a long long time ago. Zi is the ruler of demons and wants to take the physical plane over. Soooo he attacks us but. Guess what no end of the world. Prophecies say that we win destroy Zi and everything goes back to normal. As in no more war. I imagine that there would be quite a few changes in landscape.

Well I guess so never mind []

No that would'nt work you half to be awake. Otherwise you can't stop your mind from drifting. As a matter of fact you mind has to drift to fall asleep

heheh I don't even need this question answered anymore But I'll leave it up for you guys to debate over. I have infact while completley awake saw a Astral try to become physical so I know now that this will happen Early Thank you for posting on this Idea.

No sleeping and meditation are nowhere close. When you meditate you are consious but do not think of anything(Maybe one thing). Meditation is not for energy it is dicsipline of the mind.

Mj is correct to much can be bad but if you can control it. CONTROL is what you want.(Not that bad stuff Goerge Bush has when someone assaults his country. *Bombs his own house*)

Might want to do your math on that one. So he was five years old when he was read. Keep in mind I do not think that there will ever be a end of the world I just think there will be a war against most of the Astral sometime soon. No end.

I believe in ETs to but demons are a completley different thing. What do you think you were sent here to do?

=) You need to read a bit slower and get your facts straight. People visit the Astral Everyday. She did not say there were 2 dragons left she said she met 2. The Gold wiped out the Ancients NOT Vise Versa. You need to look some stuff up before you go making accusations. The Demon War of 2012 is way out in the open many people believe it will happen and just as much do not. Also there is a post on energy Forum where you can argue about people being part demon how about not here ok =0=).

That may be true but do you want the astral taking our lives from us and living in our place. I don't. I was seriosly hoping that I was feeling stuff that wasn't really happening. Then again maybe I'm overestimating the demons. Either way I thought it might be good to prepare people for what is or might happen. I'm going to feel real stupid for getting so worked up about something that won't happen.

Well I think I know some people on that list lol. Anyway in the American culture many people think that if you are spiritual you are wierd So I try to keep it to myself. I still would'nt like to see a lot of people wiped out by a dragon. I don't like death.

Everything is originated from something so That is most likley where Final Fantasy 7 got that.

Hi Pai nice to see you finally got onto astral pulse. =). Maybe you can tell me more about Zi at school never heard of him.

Many things exist in the astral that is why I think that maybe the demensions did clash along time ago and stuff got left behind when they went seperate ways. That would be where our myths of dragons and monsters came into play. Also why there are people who are part demon.

As soon as someone metions the demon war of 2012 the whole post becomes a debate. Once again I do NOT want that. This post is for people who do believe that a demon war is going to happen. Please talk about that here not the other stuff.

I'm not sure how to imagine this in my mind but I have heard that our demensions astral and physical will collide and make the astral physical that is what most people are feeling... Sensing. BTW When I posted the "Is 2012 coming Early" Tisha what 2012 was refering to was the demon war. Yes these changes may be good. Demensions colliding merging. I think that will bring new creatures. I beleive maybe the demensions Astral and Physical may have collided a long time ago then seperated again. That is where mythology of dragons came into play Demon/Human ect..

Something really freaky has been happening. Every morning when I go out for my bus. I feel a presence Almost like I'm being whatched... I never ever get that feeling. Most of all I can't sense any life energy coming of anything.

I've heard of how the demensions are "Colliding". It's supposed to have all kinds of side affects.

Once again I say that I only want experiences and info on 2012 coming early. A long time ago I made a post on weather 2012 was real or not this is not it. I am trying to compile info on if it is coming early or not therefore I could careless if you don't believe or not I just want the people who do to post. Thank you for those who did post stuff that actually had to do with 2012 coming early.

Oh great now you've done it. You went and made me think. You know how many years of therapy it's going to take to get this pain to go away lol. What if you were to travel around the earth angainst its rotation how about that.