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Oh boy this is too cool. [8D]

quote: Nay Said:  Please, will you stop picking apart my words and trying to find hidden meanings in EVERYTHING..

Isn't that what we are ALL here for?

No? Well I guess that line didn't work as accurately as before now with this.

What I mean is, I think we ARE here (not limited to just being on these forums) to find hidden meanings in EVERYTHING..

Just a thought, just a thought, albeit another one for you to take it as you will take it.

quote:I think alot of people love to make mountains out of moles hills, for the sake of entertainment

Isn't that what we are all here for Nay?

quote:Nay said:*shakes head* I knew this was going to be a big whiner thread.. and here I am wasting my energy on this..and NOT talking about my OOBE's...man..this has got to stop.

What if 'whining' wasn't seen as 'bad'?

To balance this post (just for the integration of more perspectives): what if the opression of this whining had a purpose.

A subjective purpose can be for us to invent. And beleive me, if we as individuals don't invent a purpose I am sure 'karma' would invent an objective purpose for us justly so, and that 'karma' is also not limited to happening if we as individuals don't invent a subjective purpose.

Internalize this if you want, and relate it to all situations if you want.

Just some thoughts for ya. Take it any way you like.

quote:Nay said: It is interesting that noone had a complaint about me and my ways, until a few months ago, because they didn't like the ways of the forums.

Yes, with the social conditioning of some moderators, they have agreed to make a *forum* as an entity to ALSO be opressive.

It is still opression. And I am not getting specific as to what KIND of opression it is, because it is deep, I really thought about this But you all can figure it out for yourselves.

The last page was good. I read it. Though I don't remember much besides the fact that Mikel, Palehorse and I posted what I thought were *very* informative posts at the end for all to learn. I know that the thread ended right after my last posting, and I was very pleased with it. I thought my words would be and introduction to a 'higher' perspective for some people consisting of 'higher' truth to view the topic Mikel Palehorse and I were discussing (right just at the end).

And this is not me just being self-ish, but neither self-less. Like I said I was just extremely pleased with our (the people I mentioned) last posts and I thought PLENTY would benefit from the information.

But anyways...I am just expressing my thoughts on the matter. If the thread is to remain deleted then I accept it as a being. If not, I accept it as being also.

Wasn't so "dark" to me. [^]

I saw it this morning too bro!! That thing was REALLY BRIGHT in my purplish-reddish looking nitesky.

You should see the pics I posted in Oazaki's thread. Real nice, and weird looking too...

WOW! VERY BIG OBJECT SHOWS UP NEXT TO SUN! *PIC*
http://www.rumormillnews.com/cgi-bin/forum.cgi?read=51405

METEORITE REPORTED IN SOUTHERN WESTERN AUSTRALIA
http://www.surfingtheapocalypse.net/cgi-bin/forum.cgi?read=5374

Well he says hes making the program, and that he will post it up on select websites also so that people can DL the decoding program.

I felt like I needed to post the following here as I thought it is a very important message here...

SOME THOUGHTS ON THE CONSTITUTION

Dear RMN Readers and Agents,

My heart is a bit heavy this evening as I ponder the status of our Constitution.

We have people running this country, who are, at heart Leninists. Hillary Clinton being one that comes to mind. In her talk to folks in San Francisco yesterday, she spoke of taking money from the rich to give to the less advantaged. As if it were HER money to deal with. She is just the latest reminder of the scum that is running this nation. I mention her only as she is a higher profile than most, and the news of her visit to Frisco is still fresh in the news. Their are multitudes just as bad, or worse, in our government. The Berkley Baby's of the 60's.

I am beginning to wonder if this country can possibly wake up in time to preserve itself.

We have "judges" who legislate from the bench; as if they were God Himself, undermining literally thousands of manhours in finally getting a particular law overturned, or finally passed; only to have these damn judges totally null and void the voice of the people. The court I am mostly referring to is the 9th federal court out of San Francisco. the people take it like a cheap whore...

President Lincoln had a few words to say on the Constitution, that stick in my heart. "If the policy of the government upon vital questions affecting the whole people is to be irrevocably fixed by decisions of the Supreme court... the people will have CEASED TO BE THEIR OWN RULERS". (Emphasis mine to make a point)

The courts are mandating racial quotas, protecting child pornography in some cases, most certainly trying to redefine marriage; declared Pledge of Allegiance and the display of the Decalogue unconstitutional. Despite what people may think on these issues; these issues should be for the people to decide. Not 9 NWO demigods!!! They don't want these issues to come to a vote, because if mainstream America actually voted on these NWO objectives, they would be soundly defeated.

America, we have ceased to be our own rulers! And what is the saddest part of this; is that damn few people seem to care! We are, as a nation, led here and there, and the national direction is pointed by truly minority factions. Mainstream America is NOT being heard, but ALSO mainstream America is NOT letting their voice be heard. They are allowing a few RABID sheepdogs to lead the entire flock of sheep to their immediate peril! Sorry, but it angers me to a great extent. The apathy of the electorate is rampant. It stinketh of rotting flesh.

Let me try to remind AMERICA, that is exactly what the NWO WANTS! APATHY, a total feeling of "my voice doesnt matter", "my vote doesnt matter".... and sadly too many Americans are in this state of mind. It is going to require some people getting off their dead arses, and getting involved, or else we can get ready to see the REPUBLIC vanish! The greatest experiment in history of mankind on personal freedoms will go the way of the do-do bird.

Abraham Lincoln also stated, "DON'T INTERFERE WITH ANYTHING IN THE CONSTITUTION. THAT MUST BE MAINTAINED, FOR IT IS THE ONLY SAFEGUARD OF OUR LIBERTIES." Here we NOW have elected officials who can NOT wait to change it... and believe it or not, do away with it! The Constitution is MORE VALID, MORE IMPORTANT, MORE NEEDED, in todays world than ever before in the history of our country. Those speaking of doing away with it, or drastically changing it... are YES... TRAITORS TO THIS COUNTRY!!!

America has slept while communist and socialist elements have become the elected, "they" persued these positions, as they knew they could destroy this nation by being in these positions. The common man in this country has allowed his land to become taken over. Ruled by despots, with a thirst for power, and total control.

There was man named Edward Hale who was the Chaplain of the Senate. He had some words that ALL AMERICANS NEED TO REFLECT ON.

"I AM ONLY ONE, BUT I AM ONE.

I CAN'T DO EVERYTHING, BUT I CAN DO SOMETHING.

AND WHAT I CAN DO, BY THE GRACE OF GOD, I OUGHT TO DO."

America, you better wake the (insert FAVORITE expletive here) up! your Republic is dying before your eyes! Are you going to come to its aid, or allow it die? The electorate gets what it deserves! TAKE BACK YOUR NATION!

Make a important decision in your life, if NOT for yourselves, HOW ABOUT YOUR CHILDREN, AND THEIR CHILDREN? Get involved. Make a difference. This nation truly balances on a razors edge... more so than at any time in history. I have not millions like SOROS, to make a difference. I do not advocate violence, as these things need to be done legally. BUT, I do advocate involvement! A Democratic REPUBLIC is only effective as its electorate allows it to be, THAT IS YOU COMMON MAN AND WOMAN!

Keep doing NOTHING, and you will find the freedoms you grew up with gone! We will be living in a police state! DO NOT allow the NWO to take things over.

That is why I write for RMN.. In hope and prayer, that somehow, someday the old cliche', "THE PEN IS MIGHTIER THAN THE SWORD", will prevail. Please spread the word, get involved, and make sure you vote. Granted, we may be once again choosing the lesser of two evils, but vote. Give it serious reflection, and concentration. A grassroots third party is so desperately needed in this nation! GET RID OF TWEEDLE-DUM AND TWEEDLE-DEE!

PRAVDASEEKER

Hillary:WE'RE GOING TO TAKE THINGS AWAY FROM YOU FOR THE COMMON GOOD
http://www.rumormillnews.com/cgi-bin/forum.cgi?read=51374

[}:)]

THE RESURRECTION OF THE BLOKE
http://www.surfingtheapocalypse.net/cgi-bin/forum.cgi?read=5305

Yes he's back! and this time with some more explanations for his whole plan to release information in the safest way possible for him.

AUSSIE BLOKE BACK WITH MORE DATA: Part 1/2
http://www.surfingtheapocalypse.net/cgi-bin/forum.cgi?read=5275

AUSSIE BLOKE BACK WITH MORE DATA: Part 2/2
http://www.surfingtheapocalypse.net/cgi-bin/forum.cgi?read=5276

So apparently if you have been following this, supposedly Aussie Bloke  gave the wrong dates the first round because he wanted debunkers to debunk him, thus giving him less of a chance to catch him. NOW he SAYS he is going to post REAL information except by a way of a decoding program that he is currently in the making of and will be ready to realease tomorrow to decode his posts, and he will email some people passwords for the decoding program he has made so that only a restricted amount of people will know, thus less of a chance to catch him, and also so that whoever has the information will hold some responsibility of the information given.... I have not followed the story completely, and really I don't care for NOW until he supposedly does give the information tomorrow.

We will see if he is right....

In OTHER important news:

VENUS GOES DIRECT, LOVE IS BACK IN TOWN

After 44 days of being retrograde, Venus will go direct again on June 29th at 7:15 p.m. EST.

With the exception of the Sun and the Moon, all of the planets in our Solar System periodically go retrograde, which means that from our perspective here on earth the heavenly body in question appears to be going in reverse on its orbital pattern. Of course no planet ever actually goes in reverse, rather what happens is that when the earth passes another planet the same optical illusion occurs as when an express train passes a local and one of the trains appears to be sliding backwards.

When a planet is retrograde, it is commonly believed that the archetypal energy associated with that particular sphere will be muted or blocked in some way.

While the energy of Venus is associated with love, abundance, beauty, and popularity, the Ancient Adepts warned that on her lower octave Venus could also represent a very negative interpretation of the aforementioned qualities.

The word for Venus in the Qabalah is NVGH or "Nogah" with a numerical value of 64. This is very interesting because the sum of the Hebrew words for woman (ChVH which equals 19) and man (ADM which equals 45) also equal 64, therefore illustrating that the energy of Venus represents the coming together of opposites to form a fruitful, unified whole. When this natural coming together is exploited or approached from a lower perspective, shallowness, perversion, and a self-serving agenda are often the result.

Currently the planetary spheres of Uranus, Neptune, and Pluto are also retrograde, yet with these slower moving planets the retrograde effect becomes more recognizable over an extended period of time rather than on an immediate basis. Because Venus is one of the swifter moving planets and her energy is about beauty and abundance, qualities associated with many of the illusions driving our current society, this recent retrograde period has been a particularly disconcerting one for many people.

On a mass level, the legal wrangling that has surrounded the U.S. release of Michael Moore's current film "Fahrenheit 9/11" is a perfect example of the weakened and muted vibrations of Venus causing something in her domain to stall. The fact that Neptune which rules Cinema has also been retrograde only adds to the dilemma. However, because Venus is now going direct, look for "Fahrenheit 911" to connect with a mass audience and reap significant profits.

On a personal level, the current Venus retrograde has been in my 9th House (philosophy, travel, and publishing) square to my natal Mars. The results have been some relationship difficulties which have caused me to re-examine the thinking I bring to my inter-personal associations, as well as a temporary impasse relating to the promotion of my new book.

There was a great deal written about the Venus transit over the Sun this past June 8th , however, because it happened during a retrograde period I believe that the real affects of this conjunction will not be fully felt until the redirected Venus goes back over the same spot (17 degrees Gemini) this coming July 20-21. At that time, the Lady of Love will be in sextile to Mars in Leo providing fruitful fireworks indeed as love in an air sign fuels the fire of passion. Venus will also be square to Jupiter in Virgo during that period, so be careful not to overdo or expect too much.

In short, if the last few weeks have seemed a little lonelier than usual, or the purse strings have been drawn a little tighter, take heart, Lady Love is coming back.

[8D]

Earthquake in Alaska and also Yellowstone (look at the last reply for that one): http://www.surfingtheapocalypse.net/cgi-bin/forum.cgi?read=5208

KFI NEWS DIRECTOR ADMITS STORY AIRED!!!!
http://www.surfingtheapocalypse.net/cgi-bin/forum.cgi?read=5240

HAM OPERATORS PRACTICE FOR THE BIG ONE (Preparing for emergency)
http://www.columbian.com/06272004/clark_co/160124.html

My take on the "electric" interaction between celestial objects is that, I think he really means there is an energetic interaction going on between the celestial objects. After all, electricity is another form of energy.

Introducing the energetic equation of our universe this way could explain what most would call "paranormal" things, and also more importantly how Astrology works.

LARGE METEOR OBSERVED OVER SOUTH EAST TEXAS
http://www.surfingtheapocalypse.net/cgi-bin/forum.cgi?read=5187

Doomsday: The Electrical Connection
http://www.surfingtheapocalypse.net/cgi-bin/forum.cgi?read=5235

BUSH CAN HOLD CITIZENS WITHOUT CHARGES
http://www.surfingtheapocalypse.net/cgi-bin/forum.cgi?read=5228

[The Cosmic Bombardment Continues]

taken from surfingtheapocalypse:
 
The Cosmic Bombardment Continues
   By Michael Goodspeed
   http://www.thunderbolts.info

   With the ongoing controversy surrounding mysterious disappearing media accounts of fireballs, meteors, asteroids, and "crashed planes", it will be interesting to see if ANYONE in the international or American media picks up this report, issued hours ago in New Zealand.#65533;

   I repeat - some incredibly strange and intense celestial activity is going on - and it is NOT BEING REPORTED by the large majority of media. Again, the question is, WHY?

   From: http://xtramsn.co.nz/news/0,,3882-3469666,00.html
   Today In New Zealand News
   Residents Report Meteor
   27/06/2004 12:07 PM
   NewstalkZB
   A South Island radio station is being swamped with reports of a meteor strike in the Mackenzie Country.

   People from Christchurch to Timaru say they saw a bright light streaking across the sky around 9.30 on Saturday night.

   Port FM announcer James Valentine says he has taken dozens of calls describing the dramatic end of the meteor's journey.

   He says it exploded before it hit the ground, and flames and debris were seen in the sky.

   James Valentine says a consensus is building around the idea the meteor crashed to earth somewhere near Twizel.

   (END REPORT).

!!!

Let's put this together.

The aliens (Draco Reptilians) have "infiltrated" many aspects of the structures of power. Mainly, the governments, military, and I definately think NSA also, especially because in the tape the guy says "there's alot of (?) areas in this world that they could be in moving the population to NOW Art! They want the major population centers wiped out, so that the few that are left will be more easily controllable *cuts off, and then you hear crying*."

I definately think this guy on the tape is telling the truth. The fact that their system "blew up", suggests that the aliens have enough power to knock a sattelite, and also blow up their equipment.

So obviously there is a connection here.

It's stunning information, and I have to admit that I got quite angry when I thought about the connection. Makes me wanna blow these aliens to peices.

They are the ones who manipulate people to put all these chemicals in foods, and contaminate it so that we will age much much faster, get diseases, die, etc etc. all for population control.

I was thinking about this earlier today as I was eating some taco bell. I always liked taco bell, but I think for some reason, since I fasted for the past 3 days my body is able to tell me if I should eat something or not. I ate the food but when it was in my stomach the food in their felt disgusting. I always knew that the meat in taco bell was pure crap, but I never really felt the crappiness as it sat in my stomach. It was truly disturbing, because I got flashes of images in my head that would represent mad cow disease, other parts of the cow which shouldn't be eaten, the smell and pictures of bloody semi-cooked ground meat.... it was disturbing! I felt all the "negative" energy from the meat. I literally forced myself to throw it all up and I told myself that I will never eat from taco bell AGAIN.

Things like this, along with the massive pollutants and chemicals released in our skies (chemtrails), putting flouride in all of our water, and maybe even chemicals we never even heard of, genetically engineered food which is NOT safe, are ALL done for population control.

This to me is taken as a direct offense against humankind, and whoever is doing this, it can be seen as indirect because the aliens themseleves are not the ones who mess up our food, they get their manipulatees to do it FOR them, so the INTENT is still directed towards harm against us. I choose to see it as a direct attack on us.

Thank ourselves and God and the laws of nature and karma that we have finally done something about this and are waiting for the physical changes to occur!

[RESEARCHERWORLD DEPOPULATION IS TOP NSA AGENDA]

This will stir things up a bit...

RESEARCHER
WORLD DEPOPULATION IS TOP NSA AGENDA

Warning:
Reading this material might induce significant anxiety or
depression. Individuals with a history of heart problems,
or who are being treated for depression, may find it
advisable not to read this report.

http://www.libertyforum.org/printthread.php?Cat=&Board=news_international&main=292710149&type=thread

quote:White House whose sole purpose is to reduce the world's population by 2 billion people through war, famine, disease and any other means necessary. This apparatus, which includes various levels of the government is determining U.S. foreign policy. In every political hotspot -- El Salvador, the so-called arc of crisis in the Persian Gulf, Latin America, Southeast Asia and in Africa- the goal of U.S. foreign policy is population reduction. The targeting agency for the operation is the National Security Council's Ad Hoc Group on Population Policy. Its policy-planning group is in the U.S. State Department's Office of Population Affairs, established in 1975 by Henry Kissinger. This group drafted the Carter administration's Global 2000 document, which calls for global population reduction, and the same apparatus is conducting the civil war in El Salvador as a conscious depopulation project.

"There is a single theme behind all our work-we must reduce population levels," said Thomas Ferguson, the Latin American case officer for the State Department's Office of Population Affairs (OPA). "Either they [governments] do it our way, through nice clean methods or they will get the kind of mess that we have in El Salvador, or in Iran, or in Beirut. Population is a political problem. Once population is out of control it requires authoritarian government, even fascism, to reduce it "The professionals," said Ferguson, "aren't interested in lowering population for humanitarian reasons. That sounds nice. We look at resources and environmental constraints. We look at our strategic needs, and we say that this country must lower its population-or else we will have trouble.

heheheh you screwed the whole page, lol.

I have not seen one meteor yet, maybe Florida just haven't got any just yet. Nor have I seen any of them UFO's and "Twinklers" other have been reporting. [] I feel left out.

There's some more news on Surfing the Apocalypse, and also RumorMillNews about that unreported newstory which we have the audio clip of. The reporter DENIES making that report...... now why would he do such a thing?

There is some silencing going on, certainly something fishy and I know that the government is behind it.

BTW have you guys heard about Sun Myun Moon being crowned as the Messiah by the government a couple weeks ago?

I know there are alot of stories about this, here is just one discussion going on in the abovetopsecret.com forums.

Sun Myung Moon, Anti-Christ, Messiah, or an attempt to cause prophecy to be fulfilled? : http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread61421/pg1

This whole thing could be added to the many signs that we see of the Earth Changes.

Goodnite everyone.

[ASTEROID (2004 MC) - EARTH FLY-BY - 6-29-4 (0.009 AU)]

ASTEROID (2004 MC) - EARTH FLY-BY - 6-29-4 (0.009 AU)
http://www.rumormillnews.com/cgi-bin/forum.cgi?read=51113

AUSSIE BLOKE'S DECODING ERRONEOUS-ORIGINAL DATA CORRECT
http://www.surfingtheapocalypse.net/cgi-bin/forum.cgi?read=4990

Message from the Elders
http://www.surfingtheapocalypse.net/cgi-bin/forum.cgi?read=4988

ODD THINGS IN HEAVEN AGAIN, SCORPIO FALLING DOWN!!

Dear RMN Readers and Agents,

My good friend Cliff and I have been noticing this for a while but neither of us discussed it. I noticed it myself over a month ago. But with all the FLACK over the moon posts, I decided to wait a while, if EVER to post it, but dang it, to heck with the opposition, here goes folks.

Cliff wrote to me asking any information that I had on the constellation Scorpio. NO impressions on his part, no implied anything on his part... just what I had been seeing myself. When he got my email, he replied saying it was EXACTLY what he has been seeing too!

I am posting this observation, it requires NO campass headings, no nuclear powered sextants or transits..lol. ALL that is needed is YOUR OWN TWO EYES!

I am also posting in spite of Cliffs strident demands for me to check it with a professional astronomer... lol.

Of course folks, it isnt just Scorpio, but Scorpio is the constellation noticed and EASILY seen by folks. In fact it is all the stars.

Right after dark, Scorpio is very easy to see in the southern sky. It is in a vertical, almost, position. With the "head"
and "claws" arranged in a aproximatley 45 degree angle. Tail, downward and slightly curving to the right...

As the evening progresses, Scorpio will lay down on right side by around midnight, and by the time it is ready to "set", it will almost totally INVERT itself, almost unrecognizeable, due to its being almost upside down!!! I KNOW everyone will say that's it! RMN has gone off the deep end!! BUT I CHALLENGE YOU ALL TO SEE FOR YOURSELF if you doubt ol CLiff and I!!

Dont get scared, or be afraid! I am NOT afraid, I am NOT fear mongering, ONLY telling you what we see from various places in this nation of ours! SOMETHING IS FISHY HERE FOLKS!!!

Constellations do NOT do this, or at least they didn't use to do this. This GOES hand in hand with the moon observations, and my posts of a month or so ago about planetary ecliptic appearing out of place also. WHY? It is because the EARTH has changed its orientation somehow!! It is the ONLY explanation folks. GO ahead call me crazy, I DONT CARE!!! See for yourselves!

We have had tons of posts on meteors, bolides, fireballs, etc. House sized chunks, CAR sized chunks... explosions off New Zealand, ALL verified by LOCAL news sources, but nothing national, or international.

Our elected officials were CAUGHT lying their arses off with the Seattle bolide and explosion, saying that it was all BS! Internet news carried stories of it ALL being a HOAX! Then, the things big brother use AGAINST us, PROVED BEYOND DOUBT, that they were the ones lying!!! UMpteen security cameras, caught it, the fireball and explosion, on video!!!! LOL!!

Stories are being suppressed big time folks, removed from the internet, etc. It is my true belief that ALL of the posts concerning the cosmos are inter-related. Moon posts, ecliptic posts, now constellation post, are tied to EARTH CHANGES!

The ENTIRE SOLAR SYSTEM IS IN TRANSITION!!

Please read the following.
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Interplanetary "Day After Tommorrow?"

The entire solar system - not just our one small planet -- is currently undergoing profound, never-before-seen physical changes. This paper will address and scientifically document a wide variety of significant examples, drawing from a host of published mainstream sources.

We will also outline a new scientific model that, for the first time, coherently explains these simultaneous interplanetary changes via a fundamental "new Physics" - a Physics that predicts"even greater anomalies to come"...

Here are some highlights:

The entire solar system - not just our one small planet -- is currently undergoing profound, never-before-seen physical changes. This paper will address and scientifically document a wide variety of significant examples, drawing from a host of published mainstream sources.

We will also outline a new scientific model that, for the first time, coherently explains these simultaneous interplanetary changes via a fundamental "new Physics" - a Physics that predicts "even greater anomalies to come"...

Here are some highlights:

Sun: More activity since 1940 than in previous 1150 years, combined

Mercury: Unexpected polar ice discovered, along with a suprisingly strong intrinsic magnetic field ... for a supposedly "dead" planet

Venus: 2500% increase in auroral brightness, and substantive global atmospheric changes in less than 30 years

Earth: Substantial and obvious world-wide weather and geophysical changes

Mars: "Global Warming," huge storms, disappearance of polar icecaps

Jupiter: Over 200% increase in brightness of surrounding plasma clouds

Saturn: Major decrease in equatorial jet stream velocities in only ~20 years, accompanied by surprising surge of X-rays from equator

Uranus: "Really big, big changes" in brightness, increased global cloud activity

Neptune: 40% increase in atmospheric brightness

Pluto: 300% increase in atmospheric pressure, even as Pluto recedes farther from the Sun

None of these statistics are from "fringe" scientists; they are all very, very real, and what you have just read is only the proverbial "tip of the iceberg."
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The above information is from Richard C. hoaglands website.. NOW here is a PROFESSIONAL ASTRONOMER stating FACTS folks!!! Go to bottom of following link to the 2004 archives and READ THIS article!! Just recently it was a 5 part series, NOW his site has been changed, and I dont know how to get to the other parts, or provide a link. I can NOT find anywhere on his site how to contact him, as I promised Useless Eater, and I WANT TO!!
WhiteRaven, you remember our discussion on this almost TWO weeks ago?? Need your help now in contacting certain people!! EMAIL ME!!

http://www.enterprisemission.com/

If the entire solar system is in transition, you can bet yer sweet bippy, Earth is affected also!!

And what we are seeing and posting on, is a result of these changes! SOMETHING is causing it all folks. MAJOR suppression going on on anything extra-terrestrial.. and I am not just talking ET's here!

I used to spend long nights, out camping with my buddy, with our backpacks, sleeping bags, 22 rifles; and several cans of BEENY WEENYS..lol. We watched the stars for hours!

I was a amatuer astronomer myself for several years.. had a great telescope.. 8" Newtonian, MEADE brand name. You could EVEN see some colors on Jupiter with it!!! All the reds were visible, in real time, no time exposure, just looking. The stars do move a little at night, in a circular pattern with Polaris, the North star as the seemable PIVOT POINT! But the constellations ARE NOT supposed to invert themselves almost, during a nights passing!!!

To those who say, OH YEAH RIGHT , GPS would not work if that was ongoing... I now remind folks that satellites CAN BE manuvered to a new orientation, and it ALL would work just fine again. I think I remember some posts about GPS not working a while back, some "outages" was this part of the reorganization of these space birds? Just letting you know, it CAN BE DONE FOLKS!

I gotta close this now, sorry. Up late, had a great post prepared, but LOST IT, by pushing the wrong dang puter button!

Forgive my typos and errors for now...

Got company coming tomorrow... and work begins in 5 hours, and not to sleep yet!! Alarm goes off in 4 hours..aRGGHHH....

CHECK IT OUT FOR YOURSELVES!!! I DARE YOU!!! LOL!

Will follow up on this later... more info... CLIFF, please add to, comment, or elaborate further..

I am very priveledged to be alive in this time of transition in our solar system. I am not afraid! RMN Readers can handle it... they are a cut above the day to day masses.. SEE for yourselves, PLEASE! Be NOT afraid... but be informed, and see it for yourselves! The elite have lied to us, the PTB, were caught red handed on the Seattle story, other agents have covered stories, one even said how stories were disappearing from the net... GEE, I WONDER WHY FOLKS!! Big brother strikes again!!

PRAVDASEEKER

The Apocalypse at Ground Zero
By Michael Goodspeed
http://www.clydelewis.com/

Just how deep down the rabbit hole can we go, Alice???

A person who read my report "More Coverups of Cosmic Impacts" has sent me the audio of the actual broadcast in question, from KFI 640 AM, on the Friday night, Saturday morning, of June 4th/5th.

The news reporter describes eyewitness reports of "fireballs," "planes going down," and a "possible crashed meteor."

The reporter further stated that authorities searched for crashed planes, but instead found evidence of a "crashed meteor."

AUDIO FILE: (June 5, 2004) http://www.surfingtheapocalypse.net/Audio/20040604_LA.mp3

The audio file will be played in full Saturday evening on the Ground Zero radio show in Portland, OR. To listen on the net, go to http://www.clydelewis.com/

According now to two independent eye witnesses...there was no further mention of this story on KFI...or ANY OTHER MEDIA in LA...or the rest of the US.

I think it would now be appropriate to put together all the pieces of an ongoing mystery we have witnessed over the last 4 weeks.

It began with a crashed meteor in Washington, on June 3rd, which made national headlines, (Link:) http://www.goanacortes.com/articles/2004/06/09/news/news14.txt,
which was reportedly the size of a baseball upon impact.

The following week, reports of a meteorite in New Zealand,(Link: http://www.inq7.net/brk/2004/jun/14/brkafp_2-1.htm), which crashed through a home and nearly killed a child sitting on a couch.

A week later, reports of a meteor-strike in Australia, which according to several published news reports, was the size of a HOUSE. http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/common/story_page/0,5744,9869458%255E421,00.html

Then on June 19th, a report from Missouri of a CAR-SIZED METEORITE, which received no coverage in the national media. http://freeinternetpress.com/article.pl?sid=04/06/20/0542230&mode=thread

June 20th, in Oklahoma, the Alva Review Courier runs a story which apparently can no longer be found on their site or anywhere else, of a FIREBALL which lit up the midnight sky. (Visit this link to see the article description on Google news, as well as a thumbnail pic of what appears to be a FIELD ALFAME WITH GLOWING FIRE. (http://news.google.com/news?hl=en&edition=us&ie=ascii&q=la+fireball)

Also on June 20th, in Seattle, WA, we have the report of an "unprecendented meteor shower" and multiple UFO sighting by Cliff Mickelson of Rumor Mill News. http://www.rumormillnews.com/cgi-bin/forum.cgi?read=50825

Congruent to all of this was the deployment of 93 PERCENT of the NAVAL FLEET for some mysterious "exercise."

Also congruent to this was the disappearance of 29,000 pelicans, abandoning nesting grounds, leaving their eggs behind. (Link: http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread59026/pg1)

I would be positively remiss if I did not mention that the original and terribly controversial SNOWBALL NET broadcast foretold of an "impact" event which would occur on approximately June 20th of this year.

This was followed by a series of public postings by a person calling himself Aussie Bloke, who contended that the last two weeks of June would witness a series of catastrophic impacts, leading to a social meltdown scenario, worthy of the imagination of William Cooper.

A group of people calling themselves The Monitors took credit for Aussie Bloke...then immediately apparently withdrew their hoaxing claim.

All the while, those of us in the alternative media, people like Theresa De Veto of Surfing the Apocalypse (http://www.surfingtheapocalypse.com/), talk show host Jeff Rense (http://www.rense.com/), and Clyde Lewis of Ground Zero Radio (http://www.clydelewis.com/) who have reported all the facts and implored people to keep an open mind, have been maligned as nutcases, conspiracy theorists, and doomsday alarmists.

There are questions here that demand to be answered. A moronic few would prefer that the questions not even be asked. The time of their domain is coming to an end.

Michael Goodspeed
http://trueskeptic.com/

(Note: The report of the Meteors and UFO's by CliffMickelson was taken from a location 70 or so air miles southeast of Seattle, in the famous WA. UFO "Triangle," a region bounded by MT Rainer, MT. Adams, and the Yakima Valley. This area is known the world over for it's consistant and reoccurring anomalies.)

-CliffMickelson

JUSTICE DEPARTMENT DISPATCHING IMPACT TEAMS - 15 CITIES
http://www.surfingtheapocalypse.net/cgi-bin/forum.cgi?read=4963

Note:

I find this article to be strange. Calling these teams "impact teams" - especially in light of all the asteroid/meteor scares of late. And wouldn't you know it, MY city is the top of the list! WOW I did not know we had such a big problem here! Guess I should get out more.... or watch tv? NAH.

Theresa


U.S. tackling violent crime in 15 cities
Justice Department dispatching 'Impact Teams'
Thursday, June 24, 2004 Posted: 1:20 PM EDT (1720 GMT)

WASHINGTON (AP) -- The Justice Department is dispatching teams of federal agents to 15 cities struggling with violent crime problems despite a dropping U.S. crime rate, Attorney General John Ashcroft said Thursday.

Ashcroft told reporters that the effort would be targeted at "the hottest zones of criminal activity" in cities where high murder and violence rates persist despite a violent crime rate that is at a 30-year low nationwide, based on federal victimization statistics.

Tulsa, Oklahoma, which had a record 69 homicides committed in 2003, is one of the 15 cities receiving assistance.

The initiative also is aimed at reducing the traditional summer increase in murder and violent crime, he said. Firearms offenses are the main focus because they are often more readily proven in court than other crimes.

"We hope this will be successful early -- that this summer will be a different kind of summer," Ashcroft said.

Teams of agents from the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives; U.S. Marshals Service; FBI; and Drug Enforcement Administration will be assigned to each of the 15 cities for six months. A Justice Department prosecutor will handle cases of those charged.

Investigators will focus on prosecuting people for firearms violations, which often accompany gang activity, illegal drug organizations and organized crime groups. The 15 Violent Crime Impact Teams will use high-tech surveillance and other techniques to identify the worst offenders.

The ATF is leading the effort because of its expertise in gun crime investigations and ballistics, said ATF Director Carl Truscott.

(snip)

Other cities getting teams are Albuquerque, New Mexico; Baltimore; Chattanooga, Tennessee; Tampa, Florida; Miami; Richmond, Virginia; Greensboro, North Carolina; Pittsburgh; Las Vegas; Columbus, Ohio; Philadelphia; Los Angeles; Tucson, Arizona; and the Washington, D.C.-Northern Virginia region.

FULL ARTICLE: http://cnn.usnews.printthis.clickability.com/pt/cpt?action=cpt&title=CNN.com+-+U.S.+tackling+violent+crime+in+15%A0cities+-+Jun+24%2C+2004&expire=07%2F24%2F2004&urlID=10822669&fb=Y&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.cnn.com%2F2004%2FUS%2F06%2F24%2Fviolent.crime.cities.ap%2Findex.html&partnerID=2004
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15 cities. Can we be looking at what is the beginning of a Police State?

The fact that they are called "Impact Teams" makes me wonder.

I have already sent my message to the big news stations.

Here is what I wrote to them:

http://www.astralpulse.com/forums/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=12015

In this link you will find a thread from a forum discussion, which contains a huge collection of information news from around the internet which have made the TV screens and also news which have not. The Thread was started shortly after the movie "The Day After Tomorrow" was released, hence that is the name of the thread.

The news is about the recent number of unreported earthquakes, information about global warming situation, meteor showers, (and also unreported meteor showers which have not been announced by the media), unreported potentially hazardous meteors, recent unreported and reported UFO stories, and other unreported cosmic events. All the information is recent.

I URGE you to PLEASE read the information contained in the link, investigate, and decide on making a newstory about the situation we WILL be facing in the very near future (as near as tonite).

I am no activist, although, I do care about the lives on Earth, and I want to ensure that people are READY for what is to come.

Don't wait till there is a "security threat" to report this information. By that time there will be no time left for the people in America to secure themselves, and to prepare for what is to come on this here planet.

There WILL also be other people sending you the same link which I have provided to ensure coverage. I also WILL be sending this message out to ALL major news networks, to encourage more coverage.

Thanks, in advance.

http://www.astralpulse.com/forums/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=12015
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Anyone can use my message to send to your local news stations as long as it is not edited so dramatically that it has lost its impact and statement.

!!!!!!

*jumps up and spins around*

I'm down man, Im headed over to the big news station websites right now. []

Aussie Bloke Revived? http://www.truinsight.com/ (This website has alot of new info!)

I also found this : More Coverups of Cosmic Impacts?
By Michael Goodspeed
http://trueskeptic.com

In response to my recent article Why I Fear Toutatis (www.rense.com/general54/whyIfear.htm), I have received numerous emails from people who claim to have seen unusal fireballs and/or meteor activity in the United States over the past few weeks.

I also received a message from a resident of Los Angeles, who claims that he or she heard a report on an LA radio station of a "fireball" near LAX, which was described by witnesses as "appearing like an airplane falling from the sky, then exploding." This person also says that there were no reports of such an event anywhere in the media in the following days.

Here is the full email:

Hi Michael -

Just wanted to let you know, the friday night after
the explosion of the meteor over washington, I was
listening to the radio in LA.  It was 2:30 am and the
traffic update came on.  The announcer said
"Apparently a large explosion was seen over the
405/I-5 interchange near LAX.  Callers described the
fireball as appearing like an airplane falling from
the sky, then exploding.."  There was nothing about
this in the papers or anywhere else for that matter.
I was listening to 640am so go ahead and contact the
station to see if they have transcripts if you want
material evidence.
Just thought id let you know about that one.
Peace
TS

Shortly after receiving this message, I emailed the station (http://www.kfi640.com/main.html), asking for a transcript and/or verification of the alleged news report, but have not yet received a reply.

Interestingly, after reading this email, I did a word search on Google news for "LA fireball", and found a link to a story on a fireball in Oklahoma, published by the Alva Review Courier. The link, as it appears in Google, reads as follows:

Fireball Turns Midnight Sky Orange
Alva Review Courier, OK - Jun 20, 2004
By Helen Barrett. "I looked out the window, heard a big bang and saw a ball of orange fire," Jason Pritchard said of the lightning ...

(Link: http://news.mywebpal.com/news_tool_v2.cfm?pnpID=348&NewsID=555408&CategoryID=7227&show=localnews&om=1 )

Unfortunately, when I click on the link, I am taken to a blank page which reads, "No headlines entered." Then, when I did a word search for "fireball" on the website...I found ZERO matches. And then I searched the website's archives for June 20th for this story...and could not find it.

I then did a Google news word search for "fireball" and "oklahoma"...and found ZERO matches.

Hmmm...

If the original headline in the Alva Review Courier was correct...and the account of the LA radio report of a fireball explosion near LAX occurred as described by "TS"...

Why have these reports VANISHED and/or not appeared anywhere else?
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I realize that alot of things MIGHT be happening, because we have alot of "heresay" to back this up. I do not want that the "big one" that is supposed to send Florida under the waves of the Atlantic to hit us just yet. I have had a number of visions and dreams about a meteor hitting the atlantic and sending a tidal wave my way (Florida).

I hope there is a sign first though before it hits so that I may get out of Florida before it hits. I think it won't be happening anytime this month. Maybe next? I just hope I will be able to prepare myself, and also tell my freinds and family to prepare for it also, so that we may be safe.

I hope this "show" that will be happening this week, won't cause anything more than a some minor impacts here on Earth. At LEAST something that will WAKE THE IGORANT MASSES!! I'd rather have them without the deaths that they MIGHT come with but who knows whether that will happen or not. But I hope there will be at least some kind of disturbance that will make people question their authorities which provide them their "truth".

So we watch and we wait....... again.

I haven't seen any meteors myself, but then again, I haven't really stayed watching the skies for more than 4 minutes at a time, and only about twice a nite for the past couple nites. I'll watch it tonite though.

I did see a meteor once though, a very slow moving one, but it was a couple months ago when I was still in school. I saw it riding the bus to school. It was not big, very small. The only visible part was the tail.

Maybe I'll have better luck tonite? We'll see.

I saw this at Rumor Mill and looked interesting.
http://www.rumormillnews.com/cgi-bin/forum.cgi?read=51031

WATCH THE SKY TONIGHT! Scuttlebut and Other Strangeness

Posted By: Esclarmonde Date: Wednesday, 23 June 2004, 5:37 p.m.

On June 20, the date when Aussie Bloke said we could expect the Debris Cloud to manifest quite near Earth, SOHO closed its camera 'doors' presumably to protect the lens from damage. (Gee, I'm just sure it is a coincidence, aren't you?)

Spaceweather.com told us that the 'debris cloud' we are going through was left over from a comet that went by in the 1819: Comet P7 Pons-Winnecke. At least one layer of this debris cloud has been named: The June Bootids, due to its appearance in front of the Bootes Constellation.

However, there are several other 'debris rings' making their play towards the Earth right now. They all may come from the initial shock of Comet P7, or even P7 itself may have come from the shock of a Stellar Explosion that occurred around the time of Jesus birth. This Neutron explosion sent forth a shock wave of ionic particles which bumped against the Oort Cloud, creating both comets and smaller debris clouds, many which have an orbital affinity with the Planet Jupiter.

For instance, we also have the Phi Saggitarids; and, the June Aquilids, confirmed in 1968 by none other than Dr. Grant Gartrell!!!
http://users.lewiston.com/niemann/Meteors.html

The following link by a Japanese scientist gives an excellent summation (with pictures) of what might be happening with this rather large layered Debris Cloud which certainly appears to come FROM THE SOUTH. You'll notice the various rings of debris. Apparently each ring becomes its own group of asteroids.
http://kaicho.pobox.ne.jp/tenshow/meteor/7p2004/e1.htm

The following article suggests that everytime the Bootids have gone their course they appear to leave a 'circle' of debris, much like a toroid. Apparently we are due to go through as many as 4 of these layers of debris within the next few days:
http://www.space.com/spacewatch/bootid_meteors_040618.html

"In recent days, a different forecast for the June Bootids has been issued by Jerimie Vaubaillon of the Institut de Mécanique Céleste et de Calcul des Éphémérides, in Paris, France and Russians Sergey Dubrovsky and Sergey Shanov.

Their calculations suggest that the Earth will interact with a swarm of meteoroids that were ejected by Comet Pons-Winnecke at not just one, but several of its past visits to the Sun, most notably in 1819, 1825, 1830, 1836 and perhaps 1875. In addition, the predicted peak for this activity comes several days earlier than Rendtel's suggestion: Wednesday, June 23 at 11h GMT (7 a.m. EDT).

Western North America and the Pacific Ocean will still be in darkness at that time, and are favored with the best possible views. But should the activity last for many hours, then it could be worthwhile to carefully watch the sky from Tuesday night, the 22nd, on until the first light of dawn on Wednesday, the 23rd."

WE'LL SUMMARIZE WITH AUSSIE BLOKE'S ORIGINAL PREDICTIONS:
So before I go I will give you an appoximate date to expect the arrival of the cloud in full force: 18th-20th June.
Impact 1)24-25th
Impact 2)26th-27th "anomaly"....unknown effect but current estimates are not too encouraging. Diameter uncertain. mass uncertain. What IS known is this...it is composed mostly of a crystalline substance of unknown consistency. Some have speculated that it could be a chunk of diamond from the core of a gas giant...who knows. But it is weird and fast and coming this way. It is NOT a comet...NOR a planet...it is nothing like we have ever seen before. That is why we do not know what it will do if and when it hits us. Have a laugh now...I know you will..WE did at first too when we first detected it.
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The Bootids first show is tonight, the 23rd-24th; the second BIG Show happens to fall on June 27.
hmmm...
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SCUTTLEBUT HEARD ON E-STREET (being talked about and considered in various forums):

~~~~>We were 'barely missed' on the 20th by a large asteroid that would have pretty much changed all life on this planet as we know it. It passed within 75,000 miles of us. (The moon is about 250,000 miles from us, to give you an idea.) Think a lot of folks spent the evening of the 19th in their 'bunkers'.

~~~~>The real question at the moment is what are all the explosions going off in the ocean? Is it possible they are setting off Cold Fusion Nukes (no radiation) to dig big underwater trenches in an attempt to thwart tsunamis that might be caused by incoming asteroids?

A 6.1 Seismo reading off the coast of Florida (even though no quake) is the size of 25 Hiroshimas...or so. And the 6.9 registered in Venezuela on the 19th...is many times that. All very curious goings on.

~~~~>Did we say 'Cold Fusion Nukes'? Wasn't the beloved Dr. Eugene Mallove (murdered on May 14th) working on Cold Fusion? ...wondering...you don't suppose he thought this was a crazy idea, do you? One that might backfire?

There have been some larger than normal wave readings; and then there is that super typhoon that recently hit Japan.

~~~~>As for what just went across SOHO's screen...that was Mercury, which was behind the sun this time. Curiously, we are unable to watch its companion any longer. The Large 'shadowy' figure that showed up following behind it in early 2003. NASA changed the dif pics so the object would no longer be visible. However, the Cassiopeans said (back in the early 90's) that this was a 'stargate' and a 'base' of sorts used by the Zetas to enter our Solar System. Gee, and to think we have pictures of it...

Okay, we've stirred up enough trouble for one post...

E.

Got this from surfingtheapocalypse.com:

Surprise Meteor Shower Possible in June

By Joe Rao
SPACE.com's Night Sky Columnist, SPACE.com

Meteor enthusiasts will likely be out in force in the coming nights, hoping to catch a glimpse of an on-again, off-again meteor display. Special emphasis will be placed on two specific nights: June 22-23 and June 26-27.

Ironically, the month of June is usually not noteworthy for any major meteor showers.

Yet six years ago, during the final weekend of June 1998, sky watchers worldwide were caught off guard by an unexpected shower of bright meteors and fireballs.

From Japan, for instance, came reports of meteors that were visible even through heavily overcast skies. Reports from visual observers in other regions suggested that this surprise meteor display produced meteor rates of anywhere from 50 to 100 per hour and lasted more than half a day.

Similar bursts of June meteor activity were noted many decades ago, in 1916, 1921 and again in 1927. Because the meteors seemed to fan-out from a region of the sky near the northern border of the constellation of Bootes, the Herdsman, they became popularly known as the "June Bootids."


and here's the link to the article on Yahoo: http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=96&ncid=753&e=10&u=/space/20040618/sc_space/surprisemeteorshowerpossibleinjune

Here's more articles to the "house sized meteor" sighting: http://dailytelegraph.news.com.au/story.jsp?sectionid=1274&storyid=1491335
http://www.illawarramercury.com.au/articles/2004/06/18/1087245073053.html

And another article which was posted on Rense.com yesterday about Threat
From Taurid Meteors: http://rense.com/general53/filers61704.htm

Zetas?

I dunno about you but I wouldn't trust a Zeta more than I would trust myself. That is also not to say that I wouldn't let a Zeta help me, it's just that you have to be more cautious, I have read things that the Zetas might be more deceiving than you think, and I heard they might be part of the New World Order.

Anyways.. your advice is good. At times when I am alone, I live like it is going to happen, and at times that I am not I live like it is not going to happen.

It is a bit off-putting to have read so many clues, and so much "evidence" that events will be occuring, yet no "official" confirmation (through TV, radio broadcast or commercial news websites) at least for those who don't know of the Earth Changes.

Now why would some organization want to take control of planet Earth when is bound to be destroyed. Well on the surface of things I think it is the greed, and the fear of the events that are going to happen which are fueling their "need" to dominate planet Earth. They know that there are going to be Earth changes and they even made plans to stay in power over us even when and after these Earth changes occur, but I think our SPIRIT won't let this happen.

I KNOW that when these Earth changes occur, the humans (and perhaps help from other entities) won't let this continue. I have chosen to belevie in Oazaki's writings because they ring true in my Heart, and it is in consensus with what my Heart desires. The fulfillment of my Heart's desires is something I beleive myself to be able to attain with the power of "knowing".

This all is very subtle. But I think there is a purpose behind everything. The domination by this organization has let us work for our freedom, and has given us as a collective consciousness many many lessons. After all, as souls we all agreed to be here before we were born. We all agreed to experience this journey in these bodies, and these events, for the sake of experience, and we all came here to make the most of these experiences, and learn to experience ourselves experiencing what it is that we are experiencing and what we'd like to experience.

Remember?

I don't! LOL

But I seem to "know" it.

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Really? I didn't know.

It provides alot of links to articles that could be reguarded as "evidence", but confirmation? I don't think we will get "official" confirmation of an asteroid coming from our freindly government till like the day before it hits, or perhaps no "official" statement at all will be made by them.

Though, there is one link that leads to an article from National Geographic which states that there could be asteroids headed our way that could destroy cities very soon, and I think this article was written on May this year (correct me if I am wrong). The article is good for publicity, but though nobody seems to pay attention to it, or even care about it if they did. The mass media routinely glamourizes "human interest" topics like sports, entertainment, sex, and violence, yet they can't even at least give a minute to warn people of the the Earth changes that are headed our way. They do this to "keep life normal", so that there isn't any chaos. They could break the news in a more comforting way and spread the news the way we "spiritually aware" folks view the whole situation, but then again, certain government officials are greedy and want to ensure a spot for survival first than any others. Do they even care about human rights? I don't think so, especially when they are not even aware that some group of entities are using them as chess peices on the "chessboard" we know as Earth.

Ahh well, they will get whats comin though, we will see.