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Well, I got more than one idea, here they are, and remember, they are but mere suggestions, although good ones if you ask me, lol!

Supplements...

1000 mg of M.S.M. daily in two or more doses (Walmart or GNC make great ones)

1000 mg of Glucosamine or Chondroitan Sulfate daily in two or more doses (GNC, Walmart make great ones)

A good Multi-Mineral pill (GNC, Twinlab make great ones)

A good Multi-Vitamin pill (GNC, Twinlab, Walmart, and Walgreens make great ones)

A great multi-spectrum anti-oxidant pill. ( believe it or not, Walmart has the best one I could find)

As far as books go...

Pavel Tsatsouline's books, "Relax Into Stretch" for muscles and "Super Joints" for joints are great to start in improving muscle AND joint mobility AND longevity.

And lots of milk.

[}:)] Ha ha ha!  Arnold, hmmm... I'm am one of his biggest fans.  As an actor and personality he's great, as someone who overcame his defeciencies a succeeded, a great inspiration, but as Governor...?[?]  I don't know, I'll say a prayer for you guys to all the powers that be that you get the best governor you deserve, and I do mean a good one.[]

As soon as my leg heals up it is back to Kung Fu San Soo for me.  

 Jason, great attitude to have, and you CAN become more flexible, stronger, have greater mobility and gain it slowly and steadily as you age to a certain extent.  In fact, p.m. me your email address if you want and I'll email you a package of free, whole body exercises that would compliment your yoga.

Nagual, I've seen some damn good Tai Chi fighters over the years, you are SO very right, it's not just for Grandpa and Grandma, it was originally intented to be an "all-around" martial art.  One that helped with your spiritual health, be a great from of exercise to help you stay strong and limber and still be able to handle someone or someone(s) coming at you with weapons, grapplers, boxers, etc... kind of what the "mixed" martial artist is seeking nowadays was already accomplished in Tai Chi, unfortunately, there isn't near enough qualified Tai Chi (Tai Chi as a martial art) teachers out there in the west.

[P.R.T. Routine]

P.R.T. Routine
Do this once or twice a day, it's effects on relieving stress are cumulative
This is simple to learn {1-2 tries and you got it}, quick to do {15 minutes, no more} and it WORKS wonders on built up stress and anxiety that accumulates during your day, thus allowing you to handle stress and unforseen events with a calmer, cooler head.

Right hand and forearm
make a fist
release

Right upper arm
bend the arm and "show off your muscles"
release

Left hand and forearm
make a fist
release

Left upper arm
bend the arm and tighten the muscles
release

Forehead
raise your eyebrows
relax your face

Eyes and cheeks
squeeze the eyes
relax

Mouth and jaw
clench your teeth and pull the corners of the mouth back
relax

Shoulder and neck
a little pre-training first: lock your hands behind the neck and push back the head against this resistance (the head does not alter its position) - got the idea? That's how this should feel:
pull up your shoulders and press your head back against their resistance (horizontally - not like when you look up)
let your shoulders hang, relax

Chest and back
breathe in deeply and hold your breath pressing the shoulders together at the back at the same time
let your shoulders hang, breathe normally

Belly
tighten the abdominal muscles (or draw in the belly)
release

Right hand thigh
shovel the right foot forward against resistance (while it keeps its position)
release

Right hand calf
lift up the right heel (be careful not to cramp)
release

Right foot
crook the toes
release

Left hand thigh
shovel your left food forward
relax

Left hand calf
lift up the left heel
release

Left foot
crook the toes
okay: done

[Might I suggest a completely free thing to do?]

That's great Jason that you are as aware of your medical situation as you are.  Some people are completely lost, and mostly not of their own volition.  As far as drugs go, some people respond well, some bad, and some not at all.  At least you have one successful piece to unravelling your solution.  Might I suggest a completely free thing to do?  It's easy to learn and once mastered (takes two or three times to get it down pat for some) it only takes you 15 minutes or less of your day to do.  It's something you do daily and it's protective effects against stress and anxiety are cumulative.  It's not a cure-all, you'll definately have to do more, and what that "more" is is completely up to you.  But it is a great addition to your arsenal of techniques.  It is P.R.T.  or Progressive Relaxation Technique.  I will list the P.R.T. technique for all in my post "Physical Exercises To Supplement Spiritual Health".  Look for it there. It's easy, it's quick and best of all, it WORKS!

 Mustardseed, at the end of the day it will be hard work and a patient, realistic approach that wins out over 'fluffy-clouded feelings of good will' and mindless platitudes.  Don't be ticked off because I shot holes in your theory, that's not my main goal, it's just a side project...[}:)] But next time you go into an A.A. meeting, tell me if they don't set you straight about the rules of attendance.  It's because of the 'Anonymous' nature of those groups that most of them would rather protect the privacy of it's regular members and tell those who were merely interested to check out their 'newcomer's' meetings.

You said, "What a crock. You sound like a pompous doctor or health care official allright. Nevertheless he asked me as well as everyone here and that was my opinion. I have seen people like you , doctors and shrinks keep people in bondage for years its your buissness as you said."

 No, you're ego ain't fragile.  Do you distrust a rational alternative to the mindless platitudes that often accompany most people in this situation?  At the end of the day, I never see people like you at the patient's side, I see them, with their bag of clothes, and their bus pass and their broken promises they recieved from way-too-many 'part-time' feel-good, new age healers.  And in the quiet of the evening I or someone like me takes them in, we figure out what they can get from social assistance, etc... figure out where they're going to sleep, where they're going to eat, the real things they need first and foremost.  Then we worry about treatment.

And in case you're reading comprehension went the way of so many people in this under-educated country... I didn't say I relied on a traditional approach to healing.  I never said WHERE I stood on that issue at all!  In fact, I applauded one person for suggesting the Holosync CD's, I'm all in favour of spiritual clensing and healing.  As long as it's backed up with some practical treatments.  You may recall that in my post I stated that I had MYSELF been through a similiar situation in the past.  And I forgot to mention how I wasted many a year and many a dollar trying to "cure" myself with hokey, hogwash and bullsh*t new-age cures, only to find out that most of them were at best, a supplement to traditional counceling .....at best.  I also should say I strongly disaprove of most medications since blinding yourself to your problem takes you further away from a solution.  I don't class the folks here as new-age B.S.'ers but if I were you I'd brush up on my reading comprehension skills next time you reply to my posts.

Jason, I wish you the best of luck in your search for healing.

Interesting, how long have you been using it and what success have you had?

[while you are in this incarnation and this body anyways...)]

quote:Originally posted by themadness

I agree with you Ghost. I think one reason we're overweight is that, for the most part, Americans don't have physically demanding jobs and don't eat correctly.

But we often overlook the physical aspect because we place other things above it on our priority lists... Spiritual development, a nice car, a nice house, family, and so on. If we want to change that I think we need to talk about how a strong physical self is conducive to spiritual and mental development. Most people would agree that wasting your mind on excessive drugs or television isn't helpful to spiritual development. You just have to explain that wasting your body on idleness and junk food is exactly the same thing.

Glad to see some response to this post of mine and I agree with you, that society doesn't make it VERY easy at all to get into descent physical shape.  But that doesn't mean it can't be done and if one is to succeed spiritually, then one should (while you are in this incarnation and this body anyways...) treat it like a temple.  I'm not suggesting you go out with the intent of looking as built as the next Arnold or the next Zena warrior princess (although a strong woman always turned me on...[][] LOL! )
But some yoga, pilates, oxycise or Charles Atlas never hurt anyone, besides, wouldn't you want to learn as many things in this life as you could before getting on to the next?  And since you can't live forever, and they don't have a "rejuvenator pill" handy, the next best thing to that is physical exercise and fresh air.

I'm not trying to pick on anyone here, I'm not trying to go out of my way to point out flaws, but it is a serious issue (even if you don't think it is...[}:)] ) And I was only attempting to throw this out for folks to start thinking about.

 Is she Catholic or Anglican?  Exorcisms are still done in those church's especially the Catholic church and even some Protestant churches offer that service.  God speed and good luck in your battle, keep us posted eh'?

Jenadots... God's speed in your healing.  I had swollen glands on my sides up near my lymph nodes as well along my side on my rib cage, mine just seemed to fade away mostly (after the doctor told me NOTHING was wrong).  So I am glad you found a good healer and a swift one at that.  Take care and keep us posted on your healing.  Good luck!

Since it's this thread has been up awhile how has your son recovered? It's sad and disheartening to hear of how your little son suffered so I'll say a prayer for his good recovery and yours.

 Done, done and double done...how's she doing lately?  Any signs of recovery?

[....................However...it IS actually supposed to work, so I am curious.]

....................However...it IS actually supposed to work, so I am curious.

[A holistic way of introducing your loved one(s) to the fine art of the golden shower.]

A holistic way of introducing your loved one(s) to the fine art of the golden shower.....[}:)]

[][)][}:)][][)][}:)][][)][}:)][][)][}:)]

Curious Girl stated,#1.)- "WTF??? I never said that we were nagging, harassing or anything!"

#2.)- "there are smokers who think about others, and there are smokers who don't. many smokers i have known usually consider others. my dad doesn't... and if he notices that we're bothered by it, if we end up coughing or whatever, he either gets annoyed or ignores it. some smokers get really snippy and defensive very easily, and he is one. you are jumping to conclusions about what we have been doing. we have been FAR from aggressive, hints at him quiting are only mentioned once in a while, and we always try to state things in a way that is polite and careful of his feelings"

Curious girl, it is you have over-reacted and I cite your comments towards me as indicators that you may not realize just how combative you are.  I'm not trying to paint you or your mom out as evil, or bad, or bullies.  What I am attempting to do is point out that despite everything you THINK you know about your dad's situation, that because of the situation he is in now, you can do NO right.  It's one of those damned-if-you-do and damned-if-you-don't situations.  In your father's situation, he probably is over sensitized to most things right now, and it wouldn't matter what you did, only that it would appear as an unwanted intrusion on his affairs and feel quite agitating to him 99% of the time.

I and friends of mine have been there before, it's easy to spot once you go through and the attitude you display towards me is quite indicitive of the attitude you must avoid with him.  Yes, ask him, or try to see it through his eyes.  I know you don't want to hear this... but if he's reacting in the manner you describe, then he is not seeing your help as benignly as you think it is given.

Quote#3.)-"if my mom or i try to talk to him about it, he just gets angry and defensive"

You also need to understand that no-one EVER quit smoking or quit do anything for very long at the behest of another.  This is not a road you can walk with him.  He must do part of the road alone, the first couple of stretches.  Just stand on the side lines and support him, even when, no, scratch that, ESPECIALLY when he fails.  This isn't Jenny Jones, it's real life and it calls for a real persperctive.

[Some of the information out there is sketchy at best... but here's some links, titles, and names of authors and books, etc to start your very own search on this subject. There's more out there to be sure, but each journey starts with a single step...]

Some of the information out there is sketchy at best... but here's some links, titles, and names of authors and books, etc to start your very own search on this subject.  There's more out there to be sure, but each journey starts with a single step...

A G-Jo Website

•   http://www.g-jo.com

A G-Jo Book on Amazon

•   The Natural Healer's Acupressure Handbook: Basic G-Jo
by Michael Blate, Barry Sultanoff


A EFT Website
•   http://www.emofree.com/

A great book on therapeutic touch
•   "Tapping The Healer Within" (Using Thought Field Therapy to instantly conquer your fears, anxieties and emotional distress)
-Roger J. Callahan  PH. D (with Richard Trubo)

I will get right on it...(up, up, and....AWAY! [] )

Jason, speaking as someone who overcame what you are suffering and knowing that my brother is just now recently doing the same in Western Canada... my heart goes out to you.

 In response to some of the posters...

 Passionate Fool, yes, Jason should get off the meds but there is a way and a method to doing that, it could take a couple of years or more and offering advice without a plan is just plain ill-advised, if well-meaning.  Good suggestion though.

 Mustardseed... I don't know where you went to AA but the last I heard, they don't allow outsiders to just "pop" into their meetings and listen unless they are alchoholics too.  As far as terminating his internet connection and getting rid of his T.V. that would be ill-advised and foolhardy especially since most folks suffering from extreme anxiety have the internet and T.V. as one of their FEW remaining connections to society.  What do you hope to accomplish with Jason?  Cure him via isolation?  Thrusting him into situations like debates and public speaking classes without knowing how severe his anxiety goes?  Irresponsible.  I get paid to work with people just like Jason, just like I used to be and as well-meaning as this is for you, it won't work, bottom line.

Sahlyn... great call, I was going to suggest that as a safe way to start.  And knowing what some "meds" are priced at back home in Canada, it can't be that much more expensive than a month or two's supply of meds to get him started.


 Jason, without knowing the specifics of what "exact" condition you're suffering (and I wouldn't share it online, (maybe P.M. it if you feel secure with that, if not, so be it) that information as it is fairly sensitive.
 Is it a chemical imbalance disorder?  Or is it a side-effect of another larger psychological issue?  Are you suffering from any addiction-related ailments?  

 I could ask much more, but without knowing more, I am leery to give more advice and as such it would be irresponsible and unethical to give advice as such without knowing more.  But I will tell you this, it is possible to lead a normal, medication free lifestyle for most people suffering with your affliction.  However the strategy you use to combat it and rectify your situation must be as thorough as the commitment to healing.  I hear your frustration, and know from experiance, what you are "probably" going through (I say probably because all our journeys are a little to a lot different in this life).

Good luck and keep me posted with p.m's on your situation.

quote:Originally posted by curiousgirl

is it possible to ask for people's help in giving strength to someone to quit smoking?  my dad is a chain-smoker.  he quit smoking for like 12 years, and then a few years ago he started again.  then he quit for a long while, and now recently he's started up yet again.  but now it's much much worse than before.  he smokes so much it's scary.  it almost seems like he's trying to commit suicide with smoking (i doubt that's what he's doing, but i'm just amazed at how many packs he goes through).  if my mom or i try to talk to him about it, he just gets angry and defensive, and says he'll try to quit soon.  but he just can't seem to do it.  and this is not only a health concern for him, but for everyone, because we're constantly inhaling his clouds of smoke, and he's not even considerate enough to smoke outside... he gets mad if we say anything about his smoking.

ANYWAY, is this simply just something he has to resolve completely on his own (which, from the looks of it means that we're all doomed) or is it possible to uh, send some energy to him to provide him with extra strength to quit?  i don't know much about this healing stuff, yet, so i don't know what is or isn't possible.  thanks!

 Speaking as an ex-smoker, you're going about this ALL WRONG!  Taking an advesarial or a guilt-trip approach to him is not going to win you any favours.  You only succeed in making this a combative situation.  Your father sounds like a fighter, and what do stubborn fighters do when faced with an attacker?  They dig in their heels and fight back.

My suggestions to you are as follows...

 a.)- Start to heal the rift between the two of you by telling him you're sorry for being an anti-smoking Nazi.  That is basically how most smokers view aggresive non-smokers such as yourself, relation or not.  Tell him how you feel in a CONSTRUCTIVE manner, but a friendly manner and basically ask him to forgive you for being too agressive but that you only did it because you love him.  

b.)- Then once you have made that concesion to him ask him to kindly respect you and your mother by smoking in one room of the house or using a smoke-away ashtray and a damn good air filter beside him where he smokes.  Remind him that it's only fair (do it nicely and in a mature manner) that he conceed this to you guys if you and your mother are going to lay off him.

c.)- Suggest something like EFT (Emotional Freedom Technique) combined with some hypnosis when and ONLY when he's ready to quitt.  Remind him that you'll be there to support him and if he fails, that's it's all-right, someday, you know he'll quitt.

I suggested what I did in the way that I did because honey, he ain't gonna quitt untill he's damn good and ready to.  That's the bottom line.  And despite what you may feel like doing, pushing him, nagging him, harrassing him, etc... ain't gonna help.  In fact, as you so clearly pointed out... he is smoking even MORE now.  But even though I suggest what I do to you, I would still get him to conceed you one little point and that is to confine his air-pollution to a smaller, more environmentally controlled area.

I wish you the best of luck, and my prayers are with you.[8]

[Have you talked to a medicine man yet? Might give you some insights? How about a good psychic or just O.B.E. the situation and do some psychic recon of your own?]

Have you talked to a medicine man yet?  Might give you some insights?  How about a good psychic or just O.B.E. the situation and do some psychic recon of your own?

[No, no, no... You know who you gonna call??? You are going to call ME...GhostRider!!!]

quote:Originally posted by URGO

HEH, if thy house is haunted, all you got to do is call the GhostbusterS!!!!!
Who ya gonna call? Ghostbusters! LOL!

 No, no, no... You know who you gonna call???  You are going to call ME...GhostRider!!! [)]  Ha ha ha! [] I'm from Texas, we know how to corral these stray spirits before they become too much of a problem...lol!  []

 Cool! [8D][][8D]  I'll tell you what, I'll send you the blank CD and you burn me a copy then. Thanks man![]

Then maybe a better question would've been on the differences on how the different technologies work.  I have holosync myself and I suspect that it's merely a difference as opposed to a superiority over either one product that is what is fundamentally important.

Since you seem well versed in TMI, what's it's strengths (besides cost) over holosync?

 I've done a search, conducted some thorough reading and this questions is NOT directly raised in topic form, unless for some strange reason the search engine on this site didn't show it to me (doubtful).  But... what I did find was good, it covered the topic 'fairly' well, albeit getting a direct answer would be terrific.  So to pay my 'respects' to the threads and posts about this topic that have previously showed up here at this site.  Here then are some links to help you, the reader get up to speed on this topic (in case you haven't already read them) before posting a response to my question above.

http://www.astralpulse.com/forums/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=2315&SearchTerms=Holosync,or,Hemisync

http://www.astralpulse.com/forums/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=5010

http://www.astralpulse.com/forums/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=4313&SearchTerms=Holosync,or,Hemisync

"There's a section at the site that touches on the difference between holosync and hemisync:

http://www.centerpointe.com/discussion/faq.cfm#23

So anyway, it is quite expensive, but if you have the money... I do recomend it."

~ sahlyn  (this is a quote by sahlyn)