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mm maybe it's hard because you're not familiar with how it feels. you could try achieving an OBE via indirect methods like using a technique when you wake up or through becoming conscious in a dream. i remember i started with listening to binaural beats and i just felt tingly. i wasn't really sure how i was supposed to feel so that wasn't really going anywhere. then i read up on the indirect methods of achieving on OBE and i was able to do it within weeks by becoming conscious in a dream. now that i was familiar with how it felt, ive been making much more exciting progress on achieving one consciously by simply remembering how it felt and just trying to give my body the same feelings while meditating, listening to binaural beats, etc.

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welcome! its cool cause im new to this too actually and last night, through music & meditation, i was able to achieve the vibrations you felt. ive obe'd from waking up and felt the vibrations but this is the first time ive achieved them consciously as well. usually my vision begins to turn to a bright white light and people have said that it's what my minds eye sees. did you experience anything with your vision?

Just adding my 2 cents lol the grays are a species called Zeta Reticulans from the star constellation Zeta Reticula

do you know this from experience? or have you read this online via zetatalk.com?

thanks all for the help and advice! i've been practicing and i believe i am able to reach that so called "trance state" through meditation; however, its hard for me to transition into an OBE. a recent upper respiratory infection has haulted my practice. just can't help but cough

Xanth, i've tried phasing and what's cool is that i am able to "notice" colors, patterns, and even a faint rainbow while closing my eyes. i actually started noticing that i can see many rainbows off of car headlights, streetlights, etc. so perhaps this is an example of becoming more aware? and when you use this method, what direction are you looking at with your eyes when theyre cloesd. i tend to focus on the middle area i guess you could say, as if looking straight, but when i relax my eyes they tend to look up a bit so i'm not sure if i should be relaxing my eyes or staring straight. not sure if it even matters so please clarify. finally, i don't quite understand the concept of a 180* phase shift so it'd be cool if you could help explain that a bit.

Now I'm confused again.  Are you speaking for She-Who-Must-Not-Be-Named?  Or are you, She-Who-Must-Not-Be-Named?    If they aren't aware of this stuff, then why would they be here in the first place?  And you making this post points out your identity, so if you don't want anyone to know, stop announcing yourself, silly.  

if youre talking to me, i have no idea what youre talking about.

yeah, he's not gonna know what you meant, did he ask you if you were on drugs?  

HAHA nah. would've been pretty funny if he did though. he just didn't really stop to think about what I was saying. he just kept jumped to his own conclusion even if I wasn't finished explaining -_-

but anywhos, does anyone have an answer as to what this could be? having told a friend who has random obe's, he claimed that he could see them too, he just never took the time to stop and focus on it. he also described them as many many snowflakes.

there were floaters actually but from how he explained it, it seemed like the random spots of color that pop up within your vision. i do see this from time to time but there is a distinct difference between that and the flow of colors that ive been seeing. i tried explaining it to him but he didnt quite understand what i meant when i said i could see it flowing through everything.

Whatever they are, first things first... get it checked out by an optometrist.  Make sure there is nothing physically wrong with your eyes before jumping to metaphysical reasons.

so i saw an optometrist and there isnt anything wrong with my eyes.

hello, i'm schockstuhh. i've kinda been on a quest to figure out the meaning behind life. a lot of stuff has happened over the years of my life and all i can say is that i'm almost COMPLETELY sure that everything happens for a reason. anywho, on with my experience:

about a month ago i started doing research on out of body experiences and astral projecting and about a week or two later i had my first experience! i hadn't been making that much progress but i was able to achieve some body numbness and "tingly" feelings from laying down and simply trying to leave my body. but one day i slept during the day and i woke up a few times and i heard a loud ringing in my ears and with my eyes closed, my vision would become bright white even though it was dark and i was under my blanket. the 3rd time this happened that day, i saw a girl singing in the middle of the white light and once i noticed what was going on, i tried "rolling" out of my body and i did so successfully after a few tries. my vision was really blurry and i was kinda confused as i looked down at my body and even touched it which was reaaaal weird haha. i felt like i was floating and i attempted to walk through my wall but i kinda just ran into it. this confused me even more so then i began to wake up and woke up back in my body.

my questions:
is there a difference between astral projecting and out of body experiences?
i also want to start my quest to enlightenment and from what i've read, it requires mastery of AP and a lot of energy work. i need help finding somewhere to start. i've experimented with the "purple flame" meditation and i was able to get some "tingly" sensations from that and also numbness in my legs.
also what's the best position to practice in because i've only been able to find success while laying on my side but that's from waking up and i think the idea is to achieve an OBE while being conscious.

thanks!

Names?  Are you seriously going to deny that you are Runlola?  Come on, let's not do this, let's start out without deceptions and games.  I think I deserve that much.   And I think it's great that you are back and I look forward to having a more of a civil exchange of ideas and experiences than our first association. 

So, with that aside, do you see aura's without being in a meditative state?  I tried and tried, for a couple years in fact, and I just couldn't see them.  I'm sure they exist, I've just never known anyone to really see them whilst in the physical state.

I was told once by a man in the astral, that I wasn't hard to find because I was surrounded in purple.  I love purple.   

they exist because my family member can see them. they're young and aren't aware of any of this type of stuff.

Whatever they are, first things first... get it checked out by an optometrist.  Make sure there is nothing physically wrong with your eyes before jumping to metaphysical reasons.

^^ will do!

well i dont believe this is aura related, correct me if im wrong cause again im real new to this, because the colors that i see are like an infinite number of triangular flakes that seem to flow from the ground up. i could pick an individual flake and watch flow from the floor and across the ceiling. i can see it on almost everything too if i attempt to focus on it whether its daytime or nighttime. i specified that i had seen red, purple and blue, but last night i saw yellow flakes flowing through my white kitchen counter tile. also what is the minds eye, third eye, etc? does being more aware relate to opening your third eye?

can you see people's auras?

no, but months before i had knowledge of obe's and this site, i had learned that a family member of mine could see auras, and i attempted to learn to see them myself. from this i wasnt able to see auras around people but i did start to notice purple along grass, trees, the streets, etc. mainly as i was driving. i can see purple outlining street lights and such that apparently my friends cannot see. not sure if this holds any significance.

Oh my thanks for the replies! I actually thought it was my eyes playing tricks on me as well but just the other day, I was actually able to see the flow of colors quite clearly. For example, i can simply see it now without taking that much concentration and focus. I could stand face to face with the wall and still see the colors so i'm pretty sure that its not just my eyes playing tricks on me, though correct me if i'm wrong. I'm also completely unfamiliar with the "third eye", "mind's eye", etc.

@manwesulimo2004
the first time i was able to focus on these colors, i actually saw what appeared to be glittery specs on the air for a good minute. maybe i'm seeing what you've seen?

Hello, I'm pretty new to this forum. I had just started to attempt practicing and learning how to AP for a couple weeks now. I was actually successfully able to project once using techniques after awakening from sleep. A few days ago, i noticed that when i walked past a few rooms i was able to see what seemed to look like purple static in my peripheral vision that seemed to fill the doorways. Keep in mind that it was somewhat but not completely dark in my house. I wasn't completely sure what i was seeing so last night i spent some time trying to focus in on what i was seeing by laying on my back and staring at my ceiling and into the space above my body with the lights off at night. I started noticing what began to appear as spinning snowflakes of color but as i focused more intently, it changed into what seemed to be triangular shapes moving through my walls and ceilings at very fast speeds that what transition between green, red, and blue. Also, as this became easier to spot, i began to see bright specs that didn't seem to move accompanying what i had already been seeing. Does anyone know what i'm seeing? Also, if this post should be posted elsewhere, please let me know! Thanks