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Hi Daytona, I reckon you were already projecting and went back to the physical, experiencing sleep paralysis, body still asleep and you awake. I believe Lucid dreams is AP, but dream induced by becoming aware that you are dreaming. 

Hi Jessica, yes you were certainly 'oob', but in the real time zone, or 'etheric plane' that is close to the physical. You will probably next time fly out through the roof and be in the astral! (This is a more traditional way of looking at the differences of experience)
Good luck,
djed 

On second thoughts I think there is a different 'feel' in OOBE, I feel more serious, and interact with more people: in LD it is more lighthearted and just enjoying flying around. But that might be just me.
Cheers djed 

I would tend to agree with Xanth, in that the Lucid dream state is the same as Astral projection, its just the way you got to a LD is from your dream, just suddenly knowing you are dreaming and have volition: whereas AP you have entered the astral plain directly by a trance state or other method. In OOBE you first exit to the Real Time zone or etheric plain.
cheers djed

Hi 4ever, if you still cant get thru the ceiling you probably need to do some meditation or other ways to build up energy in your energy centres (chakras). Try the library for books on Astral travel etc. the dewey code is 1.339 in most libraries. Cheers djed

Maybe you should try not being a vegan for a while and see how it goes. Whenever i try being a vegetarian I become very sensitive and spacy.
Try eating fish one day and chicken the next and work yourself up to fillet steak and you might feel a little more physical.
I know the Sc.Ph is a serious illness and you probably talk to your doctor about these symptoms/experiences. Ask him about diet.
God Bless and good luck.
djed

Hi Killa, I believe anyone who stays in RTZ needs more preperation, that is more stored psychic energy from deep relaxing regular meditation and more sleep, interspersed with exercise. I find it hard to stay longer in RTZ , I just am pulled up through the ceiling and then fly away.
Try for lucid dream starts and you will already be out of RTZ. Good luck
Cheers, djed 

Thats the reason I try and use the same comfortable place, that my subconcious knows and why I no longer go on fairground rides in case I 'projected' where I need  to hold on to the bar!  Because I often go into a lucid dream when I dream of falling, rollerskating or even swimming!
Cheers djed

[KNOW]

As you feel you are seperating from your body and lifting out , KNOW that you can just take off and fly up through the ceiling and through the roof and feel the freedom you get. Then you can go looking around the town or countryside until the time you want to get back to your body and you will just automatically return and wake up.

You dont need to fear anything in Astral travel.
Cheers, djed 

[' Active!!']

I would have to say ' Active!!'
When I take off and fly I try to FEEL all the joy of flying and any BLISS that is on offer!
This is the attraction of the extension of consciousness, for me, to experience stuff that we cant experience in normal life. Go places we have never been to before, its science fiction made REAL!
Cheers djed 

I thought RTZ was a musical group, and of course it is. But also it is a term ' Real Time Zone' that is being used to explain the first stages of projecting for most people, where you are just floating around your bedroom or venturing outside in your neighborhood.

Here is quite a good description written by someone else.

When you find yourself out of body from using an Astral Projection technique, you might find yourself in the real-time zone. It can be described as a dimension that lies more close to our own reality. It's not a strange place like some of the other astral dimensions can exhibit.

When you begin to explore your surroundings you may find that it looks almost the same as your physical world. But you may find that some things don't add up. You may find furniture in your house that does not belong there, and other things might be missing or have changed places, this is called reality fluctuations. This is nothing to worry about so don't pay too much attention to this.

Since this place is so close to our physical world you can explore every aspect of it. You can go anywhere simply by the power of your thoughts. Fly up into the air and through the clouds, you can go even further out and observe our planet from orbit. There is really not limit to where you can go; you can break any speed barriers since the speed of thought is infinite! Just be sure you have learned to control your astral body or otherwise you might blast yourself out from the solar system or even further out.


Staying in the Real-time zone can be difficult if you are new to Astral Projection. You should try some energy building techniques before you begin your Astral Projection attempts. This will increase the energy to your real-time body and will increase your available time there. (acknowledgements to  Karl Sewon)

Hi CK, as soon as you know you are in paralysis dont try to wake up or project, go in the opposite direction, feel heavy, sink into the bed and go back to sleep. When you are ready to project you will either feel vibrations or know you can project, then desire to roll over (you dont actually roll over in the physical, but in to the astral.)
Everyone goes into sleep paralysis when they sleep, otherwise they would be thrashing there arms and legs when dreaming of walking or running etc. We are just not aware we are paralysed except people like you who are coming partially out of sleep.
Hope this makes sense, good luck!
Cheers djed 

Hi, yes there are different types of astral projections, these type you have shared are close to the physical. If you want to get on another level have the desire to fly and take off. You then can go exploring which is great seeing lovely countryside. You can be in a place far from where you live. You can be in towns you don't recognise with different kinds of architecture.
Thanks for sharing.
Cheers djed   

We had to have our cat put down, he had diabetes: At this time I was regularly astral travelling / OOB, Lucid and flying dreams and had experienced many different types of planes, but this night I projected and was in darkness lying on a concrete floor and 'Dallas" (thats the cat's name), was there beside me and acknowledged me. I stroked him and said sorry for the times I hadn't been very kind and he was purring. It was so real. But for my part I was unable to move very well and could'nt stand up. Then I woke up and lay in bed for some time thinking about the  experiance.

Cheers, djed.

Hi I'm djed ; As has already been mentioned, the yogic teachings are 'the stimulation of the chakras causes the kundalini to flow'. There are special meditational techniques for this. What then happens there is a kind of cleansing and a freeing up of the natural life force.
My first natural oobs occured without vibrations, the vibrations came later through practising meditation and yoga.

cheers, djed