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www.actionlove.com

This site shares some of the downfalls of masturbation (with ejaculation, and potentially without ejaculation)

Also...

www.universal-tao.com

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Right after the man told me that i was like conscious that I was sleeping in my bed, when all of a sudden to my left, I felt someone there. Right after I felt this presence, I felt that I had come out of my body..It felt really really really wierd, like if another part of me was out. Oh, by the way, I had like 2 consciousnesses, 1 of them was of my physical body, and the other was of this other thing I was experiencing...

http://www.newagereseller.com/jonas/cgi-bin/yabb/YaBB.cgi?board=general;action=display;num=1084458221


I`m pretty sure I continued the previous dream, but I have no memory of how I got `out` of body or whether there was such an event. I do remember being fully lucid by the time I stared up in the sky, while aware of the dogs with me in bed...

http://www.astralpulse.com/forums/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=12082

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Mind-split effects???

Thanks for sharing MajorTom. []

You could also just set another deadline. []

Cheers.

Hey. It's great to be welcome AntiGravity. [] Cool name...

http://www.timeanddate.com/

Either, and, both. []

I was saying we can practice trance and energy working to help meet the original goal for no later than Saturday the 22nd/23rd. I already have marked on my calendar success by 21st, which is Friday of next week here. I'll do a lot of energy working and meditation from now until Wednesday in preparation (while still trying to get out during this period), and then REALLY try for Friday the 21st, letting the buildup of preparation carry me out (if I don't start getting out before then).

12 May 2004

Hey all. I'm very excited.

I am getting closer to an experience. The last few nights, doing the waking up and then going back to sleep, I got some good dreams. This morning, earlier this morning, I had two instances of something holding tightly to my hand, which I went to shake off and realize I was squishing it due to how I was laying. I was in partial paralysis I'd say. And later, in a second practice for the day, going back to sleep again, I was in definite paralysis after some dream sequences. I sat up one time, but the rest I was too afraid for the dream was that someone was breaking into the house. I was reacting to the dream rather than pushing the projection. I am closer though. Thanks again for all your help.



We can also continue again for those who want to go the next week's Friday or Saturday (29 or 30 of May), or who want to wait and do a full week of trance and energy working for the 29 or 30. We can make it every Friday/Saturday for as long as it feels good. It can be a marker in our life, a period of time where we really try to get out, no matter what else is going on, no matter if we practiced all week or none at all. The regularity and 'appointment' of it in itself should help us get out.

Take care. Thoughts, concerns?

Cezyl

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nitetravler!

THANK YOU SO MUCH for sharing this link:

http://www.actionlove.com

THANK YOU Man.

Cezyl

Hey all. I'm very excited. []

I am getting closer to an experience. The last few nights, doing the waking up and then going back to sleep, I got some good dreams. This morning, earlier this morning, I had two instances of something holding tightly to my hand, which I went to shake off and realize I was squishing it due to how I was laying. I was in partial paralysis I'd say. And later, in a second practice for the day, going back to sleep again, I was in definite paralysis after some dream sequences. I sat up one time, but the rest I was too afraid for the dream was that someone was breaking into the house. I was reacting to the dream rather than pushing the projection. I am closer though. Thanks again for all your help. []

Cezyl

One good thing about this is perhaps we can take the pressure off some. In the success stories in the article Robert Bruce suggested to someone that they focus mainly on energy work and trance meditation for a week or two before trying again. The 22nd being Saturday of next week, perhaps we can make the majority of practices from today through Tuesday the 18th or Wednesday the 19th energy work and trance, to prepare for our successes at the end of next week. THen start seriously practicing to get out by Wednesday.

Just a thought. I'll most likely continue trying to get out the entire time, but focus more attention on trance and energy work till like Wednesday. What do you think?

Hey AntiGravity.

Thank for such a helpful topic. I'll join in. By the 22nd. I'll see how it goes. []

Cheers.

Thank you for sharing Mattew. []  How do you know this?

Thanks MajorTom. Someday I hope to meet with you out-of-body. []

Cezyl

Thank you all for sharing! []

Hey MAGUS89.

I don't think your physically body could actually grab you while you are out. Perhaps you should practice more of their awareness exercises so you see clearly what is going on, minus any reality fluctuations. That must have been very creepy.

Cezyl

Thank you all for your sharing... []

Hey Zangatese. I have experienced several times that when in paralysis you can just relax and move, and you will be moving nonphysically.

Do you know how many hours you sleep before waking up?

Cube. Please tell me about this breathing thing. When in paralysis you PHYSICALLY take deep breaths and this helps you out, by building energy? Would you please expound on this???

Thank you Zangatese for sharing the potency of going to project after waking up. I often get the best and most vivid dreams while snoozing in the morning.

quote:Originally posted by clandestino

Yes, its a scary thing to examine, that emotion of "no-one needs me". But when you examine it Objectively, you realise everyone's in the same boat at the end of the day !

Yep. I so realize that now man. Thank you so much for sharing. It's a horizontal thing, not a vertical thing.

Take care.

Cezyl

Thank you for your post my friend. I'm learning to be lighter on myself. I forgive myself, which allows me to better forgive others for things they've done that I feel wronged me.  

Cezyl

Interesting thought MajorTom. If we let down all our walls, I guess we'd be the Source, beyond words or explanations, but everything. Interesting concept. As I overcome more and more fear I can let down more, and hence GROW more, and become more 'one'.

It is interesting the thought Thelou. It is interesting the find that WITHOUT EXPECTATION you progressed. This relates to what Sanaya Roman and Duane Packer teach in their books, focus on the ESSENCE of the goal, and allow it to take the form it must take. I must be more aware of this.

When you had this meditation experience, what did you do, technique wise? Did you all use your own meditation techniques and just end up in the same place? And did you have the feeling that you left your body? This seems more like what we term a 'phasing' experience. Very neat.

Cezyl

I certainly did. I am working on a reply right now. I would have replied earlier but I wanted to read it again first. It touches the very core of me...

Cezyl

Hey friend...

You know me better than perhaps anyone else on this planet. Thank you for your kind words and encouragement. I'm resettling myself 'in my skin' and coming too. I see more clearly who I am, and what I stand for. Thank you all for your help in encouragement...

thelou... Thank you so much for your advice and encouragement. [] I feel a certain resonance with you that says you truly understand...

Cezyl

[Cezyl]

Thank you friend. []

Cezyl

[Cezyl]

Here, here jilola and MajorTom... []

It is interesting how Moen and those who follow him percieve a disc, and Robert Monroe if I remember right percieved some kind of wall, behind which were the different personalities/lives. I remember in one of Moen's books, with his group explorations, several of them were at the same structure, at the same time, and one percieved a hall lined with doors and the other a conglomeration of wires and things. It was something like that. Interesting...

"Expectation affects. Will effects." jilola

"Drop expectation. Release the will." Cezyl

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Thanks for replying coral1. It's good to know I am not the only one who has run into this. I shall endeavor too to project with a clear mind, and just view reality, however it stands...

Cezyl

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Anyone else with anything???

[Cezyl]

Thank you for understanding Nay and MajorTom. []

Cezyl

If you all haven't heard, I'm mastering this thing by June 30, 2004!!! Mwahaahaaa!!!

[Cezyl]

OBE- Ballabene session with delta CD and affirmations

Journal E1
Session A22
5/2/2004 12:54 AM

I am ready for practice. I masturbated earlier and am very free of sexual desire and loose. My energy is clear and clean. I feel almost a floaty feeling. I was listening to some Stuart Wilde clips, which is always good, and I am bucked up to get out. I have some inspiration and support:

"I wish u luck! Oh, here my Oversoul says hi and wishes u luck as well lol..."
Caca

From a friend and his higher self, which is always good. I'll run with that for all it's worth.  I'll go clean my teeth so that is not on my mind, and I'll practice like the dickens. I have all night, and I can get at least three sessions in. Elongated session...

I've been practicing awareness also...

1:19 AM
I cleaned (brushed and flossed) my teeth with as much awareness as I can muster. (I'm practicing awareness, as per would have been the first week of the Mysticweb investigation course.) I then looked over my previous entry of last night with my three practice sessions. I aim to build on that. I shall sit with my delta frequencies CD and affirmation combined, alarm set for 5 AM, and hopefully I'll wake up again at 8 AM to practice again. Remember to practice upon waking. I shall also go straight to the rocking, no cheating this time...
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9:42 AM
Very good session, although it didn't seem like it at the time. Earlier (yesterday before practice) I took some time to watch porn and masturbate, and I wondered if this would interrupt my practices. This thought may have been detrimental, for I went along fine. I sat and started to do the meditation, with my delta frequencies Brain Sync CD and my mantra/affirmation "I can easily out-of-body into here-now travel, just as easily as, or more easily than, I astral travel". I sat and listened to this for a while, about 8 minutes to be exact, and then I had to go use the restroom. I stopped the delta frequencies CD and went and 'rested', and took the time to ponder my situation. I further convinced myself that I can do it, and I have friends and support (Caca and his Oversoul gave me a heads up... Mwahaahaaa!!!) and overall I bucked myself up internally. I went back and put on the frequencies and meditated for 8 more minutes, a total of 16 minutes of meditation just like last time. This time it was different through, for nearly as soon as I sat down the vibrations came. Just like I read in Jay-Sinn's journal, the vibrations are coming faster and faster each time I practice, and they are coming with less and less effort.
I lay down and relaxed with the arm-up technique. Ok, I was partially cheating, but it worked. :> I figured my physical arm my fall down leaving my nonphysical arm up, like has happened before.  I also figured I can still do the Ballabene 'rock' thing without any interference.
I had my arm up and was relaxing into sleep, and feeling the vibrations and such. They were still light, but they were there... I then started the rock technique, even while my arm was up at the elbow. I tested what would happen if my arm fell, making sure no debris or anything was in the way of its fall. I was comfortable that it was fall OK, and just plop down on the carpet. I started the rock thing and had some sensations, but I felt that I needed to be back on my stomach, to relieve pressure from my back.
I turned to my stomach and started to relax and feel my energy in an upward direction from my feet as Ballabene suggests. I eventually fell asleep, and woke up at 5 AM as per my alarm...

6 AM Practice: I woke up at 6 AM, even though my alarm came on at 5. I'm sure the fact that I turned the thing down (volume) before going to sleep had an effect. For some reason I wanted to make sure I didn't receive a shock when it came on, or to wake the neighbors in the neighboring apartment. I turned it down even lower than usual, and it was not effective in waking me up right away.
I drearily got up at about 6 AM and turned off the music/alarm, and lay back down and relaxed, and did something more interesting. I focused on my heartbeat, deciding to count them to at least 1000, and I also rocked with the count. So for every two beats of my heart I rocked once. 1... 2... (in my imagination and tactile feel rocking to the right)... 3... 4... (in my imagination and tactile feel rocking to the left)... and so on. I got to like 30 I'd say before falling asleep, but this crossover combo of techniques worked well. I felt like I was hitting it with a double whammy!

8 AM Practice: I woke up naturally at 8:30 AM, which makes since for I start 30 minutes later than yesterday, starting at 1:30 AM this time rather than 1 o' clock. I decided to go straight for the Ballabene method, and I started feeling my energy from the feet up, just feeling the energy in my feet, and how it flowed, and then in my feet and calves together, and on up my legs. Then pornographic images started to flash before my eyes. It was like a snapshot of a frame every half a second, over and over. I kept 'blanking' it out of my mind, thinking 'aw crap, the porn is interfering with my practices.' That's the idea I had, BUT IT WAS WORKING. Crap!
I blanked these images out about 3 times total, and then I had the feeling that was starting to run down my ear. I was lying on my stomach, head facing to the right, my arms like hugging the floor (I lie on a blanket, and with my arms to my side they are on the carpet). I felt SO comfortable, as if the floor and the universe bent to accommodate the shape of my body. But this damn wax kept feeling like it was running into my right ear, so I cleaned my ear out, and decided to turn to my left side. I though against it since I had that position SO comfortable, but I thought to go ahead with it since every time I put my head to the right I felt wax running in my ear.
I turned to place my face to the left, and as often happens when my face is to the left my legs cross up, so that my left leg is on the back of my right leg, or vice versa. It was comfortable also, but not as comfortable as before, and I just saw it as a challenge to relax regardless of position.
I started to relax into sleep I think, I at least relaxed, and I kept thinking that maybe I should go back to the old position. I may have already started the energy feel again. But I went to moving my left arm, thinking to get more comfortable (did inner prompt me in that way into adding the 'movement' factor, Mwahaahaaa!), and the partial paralysis was there! It felt like I was trying to get my arm unstuck out of mud or some other thick clinging substance. I was like MAN; I was there! I was still in trance, so it wasn't exactly like that, but in relation to bursts of excitement while still in trance, that was at the top of the heap. The porn snapshots WERE the imagery. It was just porn snapshots because I was recently watching porn. And there goes the paralysis.
I was a bit anxious that I'd gotten so far and didn't do anything with it. But in a way I did (you always do), for I know next time that the imagery could be anything. I remember reading in Journeys Out of the Body that Robert Monroe used to see football players going though plays. And I also learned that it's very easy to get into the state when waking up in the morning. I got that idea from Ballabene, as he said he did his energy meditations in the morning. And Mysticweb and Samuel Aun Weor teach to wake up in the morning and not move to remember dreams and stuff easier. I find that you can move. Just stay in the state and you'll be fine. And the easiest and most efficient way to get morning meditation in is to do it right as you wake up. Mwahaa!!
I got a bit restless but still tried to relax for a while. Eventually I had to get up to use the restroom, and ended there. I am father along than before!!!

**I shall continue this practice as I have it. I have a good pattern that I can fit into my work schedule, just as it stands! The only change will be my early morning weekends...
**The imagery can be ANYTHING. It can most likely be what you had your attention on in the hours before practice/sleep.
**The energy-feel of Ballabene works, though it doesn't seem like it at the time. It's a 'silent' trance inducer. It may not seem like it is working, but it is...

Cezyl

[Cezyl]

Session A21

4/30/2004 11:14 PM

I am about to practice. I'll first take another stretch of my physical body, and then listen to my delta frequency CD and OBE affirmation combined. I'll do this as long as I can. Then I'll lie down and focus on the heart, or whatever else comes to mind...



12:52 AM

I just made the post about the Ballabene stepping directly out method. I shall go into that, and start with my delta frequencies meditation, with my continued mantra of success playing in the background. I shall give it all I've got. I'll focus on my energies with the arm-up, and bring on the separation and release!



8:34 AM

I started at about 1 AM. I had a good practice session, very long, very nice. I started by reading over Ballabene's pages, or my favorite of his pages actually, which I 'happened' to find right away when looking over his site in the Internet Archive. I love that site. And I love that description of the technique he used. I was happy and hyped up.

I say down as per my now usual, with my delta frequencies from Brain Sync Sound Sleep CD. I added my eternal loop mantra/affirmation saying "I can easily out-of-body into here-now travel, just as easily as, or more easily than I astrally travel". I was letting that affirmation penetrate me. I know now that it is some internal blockage I have to projection that must be washed away, and I feel that this affirmation is doing it. I'm learning, and It's getting easier for me. Even as I write this journal the affirmation is playing softly in my ears, and I feel it working inside my being.

So I had the affirmation playing on one player, and the delta frequencies playing on the other. The mantra I have a bit lower than the frequencies. I was just listening to the mantra and the frequencies, no technique like counting or anything. Inner self that time guided me to just sit and wait. I let it permeate me, both the frequencies and the mantra. Then inner self prompted me to start counting. I was lazy at that point, and didn't want to do jack! But I went ahead as inner self said and started counting from 50-1. As soon as I started counting the vibrations started. I stoopped counting to experiment and the vibrations waned. I started counting again, the vibrations started. They were light, full body, but definitely the real vibes, not the mock vibes of alpha. And by simply counting I was able to start them. By the time I got to '49' they were there. I experimented with focusing more strongly on the numbers, and the vibrations came a bit more strongly, relative to my focus.

I started to strobe the vibes, even though I didn't even want to do that. Perhaps the frequencies, or just the trance, had me in a 'just want to sit here and do nothing' kind of mood. But I strobed them up and down my body a bit, and it worked, and I swirled them around a bit. I started to ponder the notion that soon I'll be able to project right there from this sitting position at my computer, directly from this meditation. "Every time I meditate I get father and deeper, in much less the time. Every time I meditate I get farther and deeper, in much less the time..."

I went and laid down after a while. It took about 13 minutes to get at the vibrations (I took a look at how long the delta frequencies had been playing.) It took 16 minutes before I laid down. A 16-minute long meditation session to start...

I lay down and decided to start on my back before turning to my stomach. I put my left arm up at the elbow (in case I fall asleep during relaxation) and started relaxing. I noticed that if I just mentally relaxed, the same vibrations I had from meditation came back. They were light, full-body, and I was again able to strobe them up and down, and move them around my body in a swirl. They were still light though.

The thought of perhaps projecting through vibrations like I did before, under the inspiration of Robert Monroe, caused me to go with playing with the vibrations rather than doing the rocking method of Ballabene. I turned to my stomach and proceeded to play with the vibrations, but I fell asleep. Luckily I set my alarm to wake me at 5 AM for another practice.



5 AM Practice: I woke up and AGAIN I DID NOT hit the snooze button. I'm getting there, into the groove, into the practice space, that 'zone', that's the word. I woke up, looked at the tme after turning the alarm off, and started to relax and focusing on the heart. I wanted to cheat myself out of the body, hopefully. Perhaps I didn't focus so well. Perhaps I need to practice those concentration exercises Mysticweb suggests, or some type or form of concentration practice, to foster that ability.



8 AM Practice: I woke up naturally at about 8 AM. I was about to get up but decided to practice again, remembering that Ballabene practiced his energy feeling exercise in the mornings. I relaxed and just started to feel my energy, and 'feel it flowing through and strengthening my body' as Ballabene suggests. Soon those same vibes came back. This time though I stayed with the program. I didn't strobe them or anything. I felt the vibrations for a while, and felt the energy flowing through me. I let them build as much as they can. After a few minutes they were still light. And then I started the rocking motion. I started to the left, as if I was about to turn to my left side, and then back to the right, as if I was about to turn to my right side. I kept going back in forth in my feeling control and my imagination, and as soon as I started doing this I started to have that 'difficultly breathing, loss of breath' feeling, and something unusual happened in my head. My head felt vacant, or under reverse-pressure or something. I'm not sure. And I felt some kind of suction or something in my body, like perhaps I was starting to rip my nonphysical body out. I'll continue with this practice. The affirmation is playing even as I type... Mwahaahaaa!



**Continue with the pattern. These nightly meditations at the same time with the delta frequencies are getting deeper and deeper each night.

**The rock has potential!

P.S.
During practice, out of sheer desperation perhaps, I asked help in getting out from any one, or any thing, that could help. This was very reassuring.


Cezyl