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We should start advancing and follow the morals of theses books, cause now people are killing the great teachings of other beliefs but at the same time promote there beliefs which teaches the same morals as the others that they are attacking. You can see this when you look at sites such as "answering Islam" and "answering Christainity" etc. They have totally missed the point of there own teachings and hurting other peoples religions so they can convert them to there's. I think this hole "word of God" concept has destroyed our culture and will always cause harm to the human race In the near future.

basically the morals to all religions is:
1: be humble
2: non-violent
3: forgiveness 
4: love all beings

And the most importent one
5: be close to your personal god who is in secret.

And yet only the inner peace groups follow this concept while the religious groups are defending and attacking others beliefs. Pretty depressing huh

Ps:
I'm learning so much while on this truth seeking journey =^_^=

 

    

3. Why did god make mary have his son come out a virgin, which was also himself, and god was the parent of himself, send himself on a suicide mission. (clarify if god isnt jesus)
This is a touchy subject that many don't like, but Mary was 'made' a virgin officially because that is how the OT prophecies were translated.  In the OT, the messiah was supposed to be the son of a young woman (almah).  Unfortunately, it was translated to beulah (virgin) and when Jesus was seen to be the messiah (Mary was married and had more children, according to the bible) they 'assigned' virginship to Mary, and the rest is history. 

wouldn't that exsposed the writers? Altho they didn't really claim to be with Jesus in his lifetime. I knew Jesus had brothers and one of them was his follower (James?) but I saw a program on the lost text where it said that Joseph already had kids before he met Mary. (James?) is jesus' older step brother.

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I wouldn't say god is a Trinity cause a Trinity is 3 persons into 1 such as brama-shiva-Vishnu in hindusim.

*my opuion of the interperation*

When we look at the concept of "god the father the son and holy spirit" we see that theses arnt seprate beings.

Holy spirit: (wisdom)
"The Lord brought me forth as the first of his works,
before his deeds of old; I was formed long ages ago,
at the very beginning, when the world came to be. (Proverbs 8:22, 23 NIV)

This is the feminine side of god (god is a mixed gender)

Son: (word)
In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. He was with God in the beginning. Through him all things were made; [bold] without him nothing was made that has been made[/bold]. In him was life, and that life was the light of all mankind. (John 1:1-4 NIV)

"the word" is what created everything:
And God said, "Let there be light," and there was light. (Genesis 1:3 NIV)

Same with Braman with the word "Om" which created everything.

Holy spirit: (wisdom)
like the force which guides you and give you wisdom and knowledge, plus powers which comes later on In the Saga of the bible.

With Jesus being a god is very Hindu-ish cause brama incarnates himselfs once in awhile and this is why there are many gods in Hinduism, but Hindu's only belive in one god. One of my fav quotes I saw once: "there is no god but god" and for the Hebrew god to manifest himself into Jesus is just like Vishnu incarnating to Krishna.  

Maby the Jehovah's witness are right when there bible says:
"In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was a God"
Plus Jesus prays to god but if he is also god then there are 2 gods! This is where the bible messes up badly and that's why the Jews reject the NT cause the OT god is the ONLY god and there is no other besides him.

The bible is also missing alot of books that were pose to be apart of the saga. but sadly the goverment wernt intrested in the storys and used it to control the masses. It would be epic to have all the lost text into the bible so we can see the great master peace unfolds itself.
It's a shame people see the book as something you must belive in and not something you can just sit and injoy it like any other books out in the world.

Thank you ^^
iv been looking into Hinduism and it's very intresting. So far I watched a movie based on Rama and I watched a 3D animation of little Krishna which is fun to watch.

He posted that it's from the Urantia book.
http://www.urantia.org/urantia-book

thanks =]
something new to look into. Bit sceptic on the " claims to have been presented by celestial beings as a revelation to our planet, Urantia."

"To fear the Lord is to hate evil;
I hate pride and arrogance,
evil behavior and perverse speech." (Proverbs 8:13 NIV)

all the inner peace groups/religions follows this.

What book are you useing? Gnostic?

I'm trying to find a link or book that has Krishna's life while on earth. Is it in one of the Vedas? Iv read the Gita and it doesn't really go into his life as a child etc

I was just thinking about the consciousness and subconsciousness and I think we got it wrong. In the dictionary it stated:

the totality of mental processes of which the individual is not aware; unreportable mental activities.

This sounds very much like our normal state where we think we are our thoughts. We are always lost in thought and never in the present moment.

Here's what consciousness means:

the state of being conscious; awareness of one's own existence, sensations, thoughts, surroundings, etc.

Our thoughts should be the subconsciousness not our "Being". And when we stop the voices in the head and stay present we are fully consciousness and aware of our surroundings.      

I found this idea intresting and thought I'll share ^_^

Mind you there are others that say similar thing but it's mostly "unconsciousness" vs "consciousness"    


Note:
I think I just misunderstood the meaning of subconsciousness but i already posted the topic -_-

Thank you for the replys ^^
I have a better understanding now

Yea from a being (spiritual type) teaching humans. We see alot of this going on in the new age movement today.

deceiving spirits and things taught by demons.

in my understanding and from what iv read in older cultures. The demon is just our egos so that one would be human teachings. The "spirits" are non human but loves to teach and guide us.
When iv read the verses it reminded me of what's going on now but I haven't heard any type of being that teachs things like, not marrying or food you shouldn't eat etc. 

Does anyone know any type of Being that fits the description:

The Spirit clearly says that in later times some will abandon the faith and follow deceiving spirits and things taught by demons. Such teachings come through hypocritical liars, 

whose consciences have been seared as with a hot iron. They forbid people to marry and order them to abstain from certain foods, 

which God created to be received with thanksgiving by those who believe and who know the truth. 
For everything God created is good, and nothing is to be rejected if it is received with thanksgiving, (1 Timothy 4:1-4 NIV)

I can't think of any being that is being channeled that does any of this or teach it. Well the only ones I saw only teach that we are one and part of source (nothing new) 

It would of made more sence if the tree story said "tree of Duality" insted of "tree of knowing good and evil" That way all can agree that everything is an illusion of our ego's.

This image just came in from Nasa's own SOHO LASCO, it was seen Oct 24/2011. It seems like we have our own little "helpers in the skys". The narrator needs to get a personality though, lol. Enjoy! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aVDGFz7IQPE&feature=related

I'm little sceptic. I just want the goverment to tell the truth for once in there life =/

Oops I didn't see this thread and replied to a super old one ^^;
I feel bizarre for a few days even though I knew nothing about this prediction! Like I have sudden power which wants to explode! And very determined to learn astral projection even though I'd stopped writing my dreams like a year ago due to my dreams becoming more appealing than the real world.. but I must now! Even if it's nothing, I welcome this motivation!

welcome to astral pulse sennyo ^__^

I agree that something is going on worldwide which is called "awakeing" so maby that is what you are experiencing. Are you like getting urges to seek something but don't know what?

God is everywhere.It is all depend upon you people how you take him.He is only the one who create this world and give sense to you people so that you can come to know him existence.Everyone who has sense and believe he can see God.Read out the Holy Quran.It is give you more clear view about this.

http://www.teachingquran.com/Quran-Recitation/

intresting that you support pantheism since Allah is pose to be seprate from the humans. Same thing with Yahweh (even they say god is everywhere)

There is no god but god 

I feel sorry for the people who make videos and show evidence of what's to come, cause now all the YouTube trolls will laugh and attack the uploader and stuff. If nothing happens next year, the trolls and prolly half the world will make jokes on the 2012'ers which may make them very depressed and no doubt   suicidal. Plus the knowing that they were being brainwashed and did all theses things to
improve themselves just so they can level up safer for the 5th dimention. That's one of my worrys for theses people cause they look so happy and joyful and full of hope... Take that away from them will be really bad.

It's a nice day with blue sky ^__^ nothing has changed so far and the trolls are still running lose on YouTube. No darkness ither but maby later and it's only 1:19pm uk time so who knows~
now we only got 11/11/11 and 21st dec 2012 to go!

This is gonna be awesome! Ryan1337 and I are staying up til midnight like a bunch of 12 year olds at a sleepover. LOL

IMO nothing is going to happen. But it would make things so much easier if we all just jumped out of our physical bodies and lived with no pain or worries for an eternity!

Lol my thoughts are fun to type because they sound so ridiculous.

Cheers,
T

lol even if something was to happen it won't trigger on the exact 12am, It's not a new year thingy lol.
From the looks of it, 2 things are predicted for the 28th:
1:3 day darkness.
2: unity consciousness.

And then there's 2012 dec where all "evil" ends plus something is pose to happen on 11:11:11 which is next month o_O

Even better, meditate as though the world will end today. Not only it stops you thinking of the future but also keeps you in the present moment ^_^
may the Now be with you~

Tbh I'm much more with my true "silentselve" and I do know that worldwide are haven the same
experience. So if anything, it's us finding our trueselves. When I started the truth seeking movement (which everyone goes through before they relize who they truly are) your always find evidence and proof for almost everything you look at. One of the famous quotes people use is from Jesus "seek and you will find". Probblum with this is that we are forever seeking and always finding lol. But when you seek within, then you will find and you no longer need to seek it cause it's already there. It also says that the kingdom of god is within us, or as the Gnostics puts it "within you and outside of you".

It's shocking and amazing that all the long it's us who has the key to a new world but we're to busy looking for signs outwards and forever looking.  


"And when he was demanded of the Pharisees, when the kingdom of God should come, he answered them and said, The kingdom of God cometh not with observation: Neither shall they say, Lo here! or, lo there! for, behold, the kingdom of God is within you. (Luke 17:20, 21 KJV)

even people 2,000 years ago were looking for signs outwards.

What was supposed to happen on the 26/27?

http://www.astralpulse.com/forums/welcome_to_2012_and_the_transition_of_the_ages/september_26th_three_days_of_darkness-t34992.0.html

By September 26th, you will be able to see for yourself a massive celestial body in the sky that isnt' normally there that will eclipse our Sun for Three days.  It may provoke Solar Fares starting on the 11th that will continue for the next few months. No power, phone,TV,etc...
The 29th, VIRGO will be enacting REVELATION 12:1-2, Giving "Birth" to VENUS just before the RED DRAGON comes in, this act will last until Oct 3rd.

ON OCTOBER 16th ELENIN will be closest to Earth and the latest trajectory reports from NASA
                          report a close miss by this object.

According to the Temple of the Sun and its calculations, the MAYAN Calendar ends on October 28th, 2011, when we will be entering the "Comets" tail for three days.

It's like the twilight zone where everything get to weird and I can just picture the twilight theme playing in the background once theses familys relized the truth.

If nothing happens, it just shows that we focus more on the future then the present moment and that our "false self" is destroying us. I think if we all look into spiritual teachers such as alan watts and eckhart tolle (my fav teachers) etc we can easily create a better world right now. But we need theses teachings to go mainstream to spread it's truths.

Two Russian girls who found out they were accidentally switched at birth, have decided to stay with the families that raised them.

DNA testsrevealed they had been sent home from thematernity hospitalwith the wrong parents 12 years ago.
Anya andIrinawere born minutes apart in 1999 in the same ward and were accidentally given the wrong name tags.

They grew up within close distance of each other in the town of Kopeisk,eastern Russia, and were unaware of their true identities.
The case only came to light whenYuri Belyaeva, the ex-husband ofYuliya Belyaeva, refused to pay child support because his darker-skinned daughter, Irina, did not look like him.

The truth was revealed after two DNA tests showed that not only was he not biologically related to Irina, but neither was his ex-wife.

Once the mix up was uncovered, the local police tracked down the couple's real daughter,Anya, who had been raised by Irina'sbiological parentsacross town.

Yuliya filed a formal complaint against the hospital and the families are now suing the hospital for £99,900 in damages.

Yuliya told BBC News: "It was true. Their daughter, Anya, was blonde and looked just like me and my ex-husband. And our daughter was dark-skinned and had dark hair and looked like the other father. He's a Tajik, and she looked just like him."

"Suddenly my whole world turned upside down and inside out," she said, adding that: "As soon as I saw her, it was like looking at a copy of me as a child."

The girls have been brought up with very different religious backgrounds and traditions. Despite this the two families, both of which have been through divorces, are now trying to bond.

"It's terrible for both of them," Yuliya told the BBC. "They've grown up with one set of parents, now they've found out they have a different mother and father. Neither child wants to leave their home. Irina keeps saying to me: 'Mum, please don't give me away'. I comfort her by saying: 'I would never do anything against your wishes. Nothing has changed. I'm still your mother'."
Anya and Irina have decided to remain with their non-biological parents as neither of them want to leave their family.

http://uk.m.yahoo.com/w/ygo-frontpage/lp/story/uk/58139/coke.bp%3B_ylt=AgQ4J8Wsec0am9wvMf377yux.tw4%3B_ylu

What's the differnce between channeling and inner knowledge that the great masters reached?

"But the wisdom (Sophia) that is from above is first pure, then peaceable, gentle, [and] easy to be intreated, full of mercy and good fruits, without partiality, and without hypocrisy."
—James 3:17

as we see here, sophia is from above and isn't phyical. Alot of great masters meditate to reach that inner wisdom and knowledge. Is this the same catoagry or totally diffent?

Would you truly trust a complete stranger to enter your home? Channeling is a gamble imo, most of the time you dont really know who your allowing to enter your body/mind.

it depends on the belief systom on that person I guess. Spiritual people tend to speak to there higherselves or an alien who wants to teach. And then you get people who channel lower beings that causes trubble. I think it's based on who you are and what you do/belive. Maby theses people are channeling there
subconscious or something. There's only 1 consciousness which is us and we are only posessed if we are unconscious of the present moment (being in the past/future and acting like a daily robot etc)
   
Alot of spiritual teachings comes from a higher source ither it's from God/buddah/Jesus/Krishna/Tao/holy spirit/Sophia ect. It's all channeling one source which no doubt is based what your beliefs are. The religus channel'ers gets a spiritual being and others channel dead people or lower beings who are just anoying.