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It could be an illusion too.

What you read about ki should be real, and about the jing and mana stuff I am really not sure.
There are some trash sites of influenced ppl from Dragonball (Z, GT) that think that what they see in the TV is real.
You sure can't make a Kamehameha or at least not a really visible one.
All the things you read about the power level sensing (with numbers) and those articles of Skullkid and from "The teachings of ki" they are real liars.
If you want to make good ki/jing ball you must learn first to control your ki well, I suggest you the N.E.W article http://www.astralpulse.com/downloads/downloads.htm
Good luck!

Congratulations!!!

I tryed many articles on OBE and AP, But it didn't really help me, I listened to the radio interview with Robert Bruce and it was just informations.
I just need the right way to project.

Ok it was really amazing, I like it!

But I don't think of getting prouves, facts and formulas to improve it as truth.
We are quite experienced in energies here so we belive in it.
we have just a lifetime so forget the logics, you'll never find logicness in this subject so let's enjoy until the end of our life!

I am not a proffessional and sure not a master, but I might help you
very much cuz I helped many people so I think I can help you.
You can PM me if you got any question or problem.

Yes, I see auras when I want and sometimes even if I don't mean to do it.
Sometimes I see walls in the colour green, that's right, I think it's the way to see real ki cuz I know that positive energy (ki) is green.
If you see red colours it's negative and blue means negative beeing recycled to positive.
So the idea is that you are using your third eye to see another dimention, I can see the third dimention in some pictures.

If you mastered the ki flame technique and it's really powerful, then it will be visible really like light coming out your body.
ppl would see it.

What do you mean by that?
Do you mean an online master? Or someone that you can meet?
And in what art exactly?

Take him to a kung fu Master or to some energy art's masters and they will prove it to him just with one hit, believe me
After asking this kung fu master to show me a fa jing I really felt his energy burning my air in my stomach.
Ask a kung fu master to hit him with a Fa jing and your friend will understand the power of energy!

Absolutely!
You don't have to prouve anything to your friend. He can continue going to the wrong way but you know that your belief is right!
If he want's some prouves so let him try by himself, let him work hard.
Ki is absolutely paid in the end.

Yes it's not something special.
When you see someone on a netral background then when you lose your focus on him you'll start to see the background colour on him and he will like "dissapear" and his aura will stay.
It happens to me a lot when I am not focused.

It wasn't a demonstration, it was a competition.
After this hit they started to show this part few more times because it was a perfect knock out victory with one hit.

quote:Originally posted by Nate

 anybody ever had a similar expereince? taaaa!!

-Nate

And yes, I had many experiences like this one, and I can read and understand my dreams and they really tell logic facts that happen in the world.

Understand that you are creating the dream by yourself and your mind, in some religious theories it can tell you something important and I believe in it.
You created in your mind this face that you saw, it could be someone you already know that you have some feelings to him. You can fear him, love him, hate him etc.. or a movie that you saw.
If you don't recognize this face then I suggest you to go to a psycholog or someone that reads dreams.

oh so that's the rope methode?
Do you know other good methodes for Astral projection or regular OBE?

quote:Originally posted by kakkarot

To anyone reading this and thinking that you too can send your friends tumbling down a hallway with a "quick flick of the wrist" (or something like that) note the differences between the "dbz ki sites" and the guy who demonstrated for mistic-idan: the "dbz ki sites" are full of kids who have no self control, no self awareness, no great skill in the martial arts, no great skill in energy sensing, and no great skill in energy manipulation, whereas the demonstrator has likely been training for many years as opposed to the few weeks or few months of the kids on the "dbz ki sites".

Mistic: how long has the demonstrator been training for?


although, it is interesting that the master used a full punch and that the "victim" moved back so far. did he specifically say that he was showing you fa jing, or just a generic punch with energy thrown into it, or something else? Admittedly, I've not studied IN DEPTH into it, but what I have found out about it is rather different from that kind of demonstration.

~kakkarot

I don't know exactly how long the master trained but I know he was very powerful.
And he didn't use a fist/punch, he used just his finger that was full of energy and screamed like I dunno.
There was a little flash when he "hit" his rival with his finger and then it looked kinda like an explosion and the rival just "flew" 3 meters apart him.

If your auric vision is really good that you might see spirits or negs/demons in their astral.
Usually you can see regular spirits and ghosts, if you are not sure about what you are seeing so do this: in the next time you'll see a wierd shade in nowhere then try to look at it and see its forn and see if it's moving.
If yes then it might be a spirit.

What is the rope methode?
Can it help me to astral project?

I think you are right. But not exactly, because that the Fa-Jing that I saw was very fatal! And we really could see the energy surrounding his finger and blasting, we saw a little flash of light before  the rival flew 3 meters apart the master (after getting the hit).

Xane, do you feel like when you are very excited and then you get an electric shock??
If yes then it's natural, I have it too.

Yesterday I went to a kung fu master and he showed me the Fa jing.
It was like a regular punch but a little different, it just made me a little strange feeling in my body.

Anyways it's not the Fa jing that I heard about. I heard that it's a hit with much power than that and much energy manipulation then that.

What do you say guys?

What I was always doing was wearing a ribbon on my brow and putting the quartz inside it, but it falled me every time while I was sleeping so I didn't feel any special charge.
I thought that it must be on the third eye location for it will work.
I personally care just about the third eye, I want to increase energy in it, so what do you suggest me to do with the crystal for it will stay on my brow while I am sleeping?

My methode of changing the colour of my eyes is not connected to energy stuff at all.
I just make a movement in a special way, it's a technique that a part of it makes your blood flow very fast and your body gets red, your muscles get stronger and you are getting fired up.
When the blood reaches a certain level of hotness in your head, it makes your eyes change their thon of colour.

quote:Originally posted by Latina_diva

Hi Mistic and Smooth,

I have heard that it i hard to accomplish an OBE for many people. However I am very positive that it can be done.  You will nee lots of patience and practice. This is what I recommend you do.

Got to sleep, set your alarm maybe 4 hrs later. Once you wake up Start working on it. Your body will be tired and in a state of Relaxation. After that, Roll your eyes in the back of your head, like trying to look in the back of your head. Concentrate and and keep pushing back. Imaging you ar lifting and Floating, go toward the darkness. You will feel a little numb but go with that.  After a while you will see how your will start to feel vibration starting on your feet. Well, hope this helps. Let me know if I can be on any additional help.

Don't give up, there is a whole new world outside our bodies.

Lorena

Thanks a lot Lorena. I will try it.
Nut I read that rolling the eyes is bad if you want to AP, Iread you have to relax your eyes too and try to see behind them with the astral eyes.