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ok wicked, thank you very much. Any idea if I can get it online as an article? . I'm a cheapass I know  LOL.

This is what I've found so far, cannot find that book by Lama Yeshe however .

http://lywa.rootr.com/

Others mind find the site here useful, theres free books on it by various Lama's etc.

This is the only article I can find on this. And yes sorry for bumping a real old thread but I really want to pick up this technique to add to my own repetoire and practice.

http://www.llewellynjournal.com/article/392

If anyone has got a more practical tutorial or article I'd love to read it, thank you

Is there any solid evidence it ever did?

I'm just seeing where the rabbit hole ends. I was analysing why I do energy stuff the other day. Mainly it gives me some kinda satisfaction and pleasure really. Plus being able to use to heal others-which was what I started with is real nice.  Finding that I could increase strength and resistance to disease for myself has added to this.
Yes I've started a Kundalini yoga class...though I raised loads of energy and heat in the first few minutes really-I've done the thing many times now. You know the heat/tingle/rush thing.  
I just like the sensations, and the occasional tears of joy thing that happens. You know when the heart and the crown start doing this real physical pulsing thing and you can touch everything at once ? Well it feels like it...that's lovely that is.
That's as spiritual as I profess to get because the "spiritual" stuff is too um..deep for me . 17 yrs I've done energy work for now, I continue because I just like it.
The psychic side effects would be icing on the cake I think. I don't think I believe that I could levitate or do most of the other stuff..since I don't feel I could do it, that limits this. I don't worry too much now though, I think I've got through the frustration at having no psychic gifts thing by now mostly...

Oh and I'm happy having it as one my main activities at the moment. I've not got much else on at this time for some reason . Maybe I'm meant to focus on it for a few months yet.  
As for final goals, I don't and won't accept a belief system to have such things...lets just see where it leads for me that is.

I have little trouble with an "entity" that created all, God/Deity/Source whatever label fits I guess.

I find it very hard to really listen to someone when they are extremely fundementalist in nature because I know that they certainly are unlikely to listen to anything outside of their box.

I gave up on all systematic religions years ago, now I only delve into their cultures a little to pick up specific techniques-such as kundalini yoga, tantra, taoist energy practice etc. Yes that makes me sound non spiritual pretty much-which is true. I do energy work and healing for several reasons-health, I like the feeling and I enjoy the feedback if a healing goes well.  So really I'm a technician I guess and I'm not paying an awful lot of attention to the rest of the stuff .  

That said I've had a few experiences involving tears of joy and crown strobing etc that convince that yes there is something greater. I don't believe I need anyone's belief system to get in touch with that being..well it's the other way around really isn't it. Allow myself to be touched by that Being, whenever it sees fit maybe? I guess that sounds less arrogant and fits my experience far better...

If the fundementalists God does exist-I'm positive something Creator like does though it might be everything-it does NOT logically follow that the Devil exists too. Sorry but that's not even an arguement on their part. It's just a statement.  I get annoyed with various fundementalist viewpoints that insist I must have "their" faith in order to touch what they would call God. In the politest way possible that's ****. .

That comes from the heart, I don't need other groups constructs to allow this to touch me. I just need to feel from the heart and soul. The other nonsense has become meaningless...sorry if this is quite strong and opinionated also but this is a personal truth for me and I'm not trying to convince anyone else that it must be true for them.  That would be wrong.

There is no judgement, only the one we create in our minds. Nothing wrong with attempting work that involveds apparent "rules" of reality that get further out there than convention normally acknowledges.

Any creator would be interested in the experience as the this creator is everything that exists anyway. That's the nearest I will come to pinning my beliefs to one place LOL. Because I won't say I'm dead sure, thats just the nearest feeling and intuition I have

Watch out folks that this fellows influence doesn't create a battle where there wasn't one before. Because that's what it feels like is happening, nice and subtle-or not that subtle but a fight is sort of slowly brewing here in pages 5 and 6.  Now that's clever influence...isn't it?

I found it surprising how easy the kundalini class was for me. Yes it showed me new moves and posture/breathing things to move energy up the body. However it was tooo easy, i was boiling in seconds.   It also proved that having screwed around with energy work for so long has paid off. None of this horrible stuff people talk about, just long very intense raises of energy that make my crown chakra do this pulsing thingy, like a tactile halo.

I can't see this stuff..but I ain't worried-I SURE can feel it .

LightWorker2012 why would anyone buy a pair if he can get them for free? I certainly won't.  His website DOES NOT inculcate trust at all. No way .  Can't be helped, he needs a far better and more professional design.

I do call £12.99 plus any postage etc expensive for magnets . Now if someone proves they work then maybe I'd feel different. But google around for miracle cures and stuff, and you'll see plenty of good reason for my own attitude.

Experience is king.

2020 would you mind clarifying your thoughts please big time.  Where are you coming from? Why? What is your conclusion. This might be called an "arguement" in critical thinking terms, or a discussion or essay . Those get appreciated here if they're decent and worthwhile writeups of a point of view. Thank you.

Channelled stuff has never made sense to me at all. Personal experience all the way me thinks. Saves me the heartache of trying to "decide" who to believe.

Nostic good post .

The ascension of each of the seven Kundalinis is slow and difficult.

Why are all these things made out to be so difficult as to be near impossible in reality for anyone? I'm sorry but there's something not right in that idea.  In other words I'm partly talking from past experiences myself here. Yes I've been playing with energy for 17 yrs including spinal energy work, so effort over time is probably a must for anything worthwhile.
However these ideas that try to claim that you have to have what looks like several lifetimes of all kinds of restraint and abstenation smack of control freakism to me.    Merits of the heart does sound like living the way someone is telling you to, just a lot more subtly.

Maybe the text shows the prejudices of the time?

overfien, thank you for sharing your information btw, I know I'm sounding critical. It's not of you , I know you are passing on the fruits of your own research and for that I am glad you share. Kundalini is something I am working on myself.

Someone needs to take that ***hole who is POSING as a champion of "truth" down. I mean legally/metaphorically..or make him "see" what kind of a **** he is.

Never been a communist thinker myself.  There' something I don't like in this service thing...but I can't quite put my finger on it

I proved to myself that mostly they're wrong .  Oh dear, you've quoted me in your sig ROLFMAO!.
Man that's soooo funny.

I start a class on Kundalini yoga tonight. But they will meet a very abrubt refusal if veganism/vegetarianism is requested. Because that's nonsense.  Eating good healthy whole food and paying attention is important perhaps, just not this religous narrowism that some practices insist up.
I say this because a number of times now I've had experiences that left me with tears of joy. That last one is written about in astral consciousness and THAT occurred within an hour of eating a large portion of luxory FISH pie and stuff.

LOL Tyciol. I'm starting a Kundalini yoga class tonight, but I hope it's not meant to be these complicated.  I simply do gold and white really and those only as a framework as really the visual stuff doesn't do it-it needs real tactile sensations and actions to get me going.  Is this visual stuff that vital RedCatherine?

If it is then good post .

Alright! I'd love Randi to read this and grow the BLEEP up. What  a Bleep bleep. He's not a real skeptic, he's a bitter waste of time. Stupid man.

Nice post

Yeah he said he would. Tyciol seems to me to be more skeptic-open but skeptic. Exactly who I would want to test them I reckon.

(don't confuse the energy that can rise through ida and pingala with kundalini though...)

And here's me thinking that's exactly what it is...once you clear and raise it through those channels you bring it up the center..

There is some moralistic stuff in your post there SirLeon. Please don't assume that the answers you have found must be true for all.  Our very beliefs *can* be our own prison.

Gman, that last is not an arguement .

I have had also the first proper experience I think for a while.  

I lay in my recliner chair in front of a real fire , trying to begin the NEW system on my feet, and going for the detail of wrapping every joint. Well it sent me to a drift really.

Firstly I had weird slighly unpleasent "buzz-tingle-rushes"  up to my head, strange noises-there was something making scratching noises in the corner to my left. The first time it was scary and unnerving, but I was able to think, so as I came out slightly I reminded myself to grap a weapon perhaps or project more energy.  Consequently I was able to repeat sliding into the "wierd noises" state about 4 or 5 times.  I can sort of recall now what that odd sensation feels like and repeat it to a degree.  

I later found myself projecting around the house and having multilayed dreams centred on a parody of my house. I was also unable to open my eyes-no problem I focussed on my third eye somewhat and I could sort of see .

This was the first time I have done anything in a crooked position .

I don't believe this idea of "God's" will. If the "Creator" was that bothered he/she would have stepped in long ago to make sure we understood. Since we have total free will-to me that implies what I felt the other day (detailed elsewhere) that ALL judgement lies within us...not in the hands of another.

The human body apparently can last between 3 and 6 weeks without food and still survive-as long as there is some water intake.  The consequences increase as the time goes on. So someone training up to 40 days doesn't surprise me, if they are slowing their metabolic rate down sufficiently etc then yes-deliberate training could take you to 6 weeks + though I don't think you'd be too healthy at the end.