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quote:Originally posted by G3MM4

You talk about forgiveness? They say that in order to forgive others, you need to forgive yourself first. Everyone has done bad things, made mistakes. This includes you. I get the impression that you're angry at others and at yourself. Why? If I'm wrong about that, then feel free to correct me.

I am angry at others a lot of the time. But in my mind, you can always be angry at a person and never forgive them. I dont know your age G3, but imagined if someone murdered your mother or father or kid if you had one. What if this persons intentions were quite eveil and all they wanted to do was kill people. How the hell could you forgive them for that, You can't. Not everyone can change. Some say they change and are a better person and that everything they did is in the past, but if you do somthing like Timmothy McVauge did in the Oklahoma Bombings, there is no way you can ever forgive some one 100%

quote:Originally posted by astralpwka

Is the panic attack caused because you are trying at night time, or does it matter? I don't panic at all in the early mornings, only when first going to bed (if then, anymore). It mighht be something as simple as facing your fears, or preventing thoughts while trying to trance.

Are you falling asleep sitting up? Try different positions. If you are lying down, try propping an arm up at the elbow, so it falls over and smacks you if you doze. This is the method I use, until I feel exit symptoms (though sometimes even exit symptons can trick you into falling asleep).

I usually try to project during the night. I also had my panic attack at night too. I think my sub-concuis was freaking out a bit to be honest. I lay down on my bed when I try to project. I have never tried any other positions but will probaly give it a try

It's kind of funny but when I first started to search for out of the ordiniary ideas, I googled anime and Dbz. Yeah.... I know.

It did intrigue me by watching these shows that it could be possible to do more things with your body. I was like "Wouldn't it be cool to fly and to TK and do ki blast." It may be a kiddish idea but those were just my starting point to explore astral and metapyschial things.

I am very glad I did this though. I don't have too much fun in life, and this his kind of stuff as helped out my self confidence and know that I have no limits and can do anything If I put my mind to it. Even flying!

quote:Originally posted by beavis

Screw bush and kerry. I've never voted for someone I hate and I'm not about to start now. When usa destroys itsself, I put the blame on those who vote against somebody but not for somebody, and take no blame myself.

I totally agree with you. Too bad that our society has been brainwashed and mislead

quote:Originally posted by beavis

Its outrageous there are less than 1000 candidates for usa president! 2^10 = 1024 so if there were about 1000, you could choose on 10 different things (that have only 2 options). What kind of screwed up country thinks its free while only having 1 choice every 4 years?

It sucks man. I don't think that it will ever change. I mean the other closest party in popularity is the Libertarians and they have never came close to the presidency. I can name like only 7 poltical parties. Its just that their voice is never heard by the public and the other two parties dont usually want them too be heard. Money money money

quote:Originally posted by Rastus

The illuminati collapsed a few years ago, victim of the Internet.  Look at Enron, that was the result of the Illuminati, but it wouldn't have been public if they were still in power???

For all practical purposes, Bush and Kerry are the same thing, placeholders(although Kerry won't win, so you will have to wait until Hillary gets in in 2008, but she's the same as any of them, in fact what she doesn't do will be the catalyst for 2012).  Remnents of the old ways.  Look to the 2012 election to see some 'new' blood.

What is "Illuminati"??

I hate to say it, but, i agree that Kerry probaly won't win. He's really not taking a stand or being agressive. I say vote Nadar. He's definitly better than Bush or Kerry. But lots of people say they will be throwing their vote away to vote Nadar even though they feel he's the canadite. Well if everyone didnt think this way and we didn't have this crummy two party system, then I wouldnt be suprised to see him in office

quote:Originally posted by darkheaven

http://www.trans4mind.com/Mars_Records/Download/download.html
thanks,

well, the US population is somewhere at 250-300 Mil (don't know for sure, but that is not important for what i'm trying () to say)
half of them 125-150 sends negative thoughts to him.
10.000 of them are "Black Mages", 100 of them are ticked on him, 10 whants him dead, 2 make a ritual for him to die...

and i shall not speak about how many people on this planet hate BUSH

(this was just an example)

i think that public important personalities are protected, i know that the leader Karma influences the grup...

I posed the question about wouldn't people such as Pres. Bush be vulnarable to psychic attacks a few weeks ago? The answer is yes. I am sure a lot of psychics have tryed to put thoughts in his head or controll him mentally.

With that being said, there must be some psychis protecting a lot of people with high celebirty stature. Most lileky really powerful ones at that. I mean think about how many people hate Bush. I am sure that some pyschis who are on his side must be protecting him. Most of the psychis and people protecting world leaders and such are probaly doing it involuntarily. I dont think that most people would accept people protecting them mentally.

Asain, the people protecting these people have to have hsome sort of high astral power or psychic abilities. Otherwise a few 100s of people such as myself, only doing metapysics for a short time, could take over the president.

quote:Originally posted by Rastus

And who chose to let Hitler happen?  Every world leader during the 30's.  Old system ,old energy.  The decision was made not to proceed at that point and Hitler was the result, then Stalin.  Took anotehr 50 years to counteract Stalin, then BAM, the shift occured and the Soviet Union fell.

New energy is here, and this isn't our fathers planet anymore.  Never has the phrase "Just Do it" truer.

Still, what happened happened. And what if if Hitler was stopped before he commited suicide? The fact that he was attempting mass murder is still wrong and dont see how you could forgive him for it.

Still, even if you have done something horrible in your past, there is no way to cover it up. Look at Hitler. I don't think many people could ever love or care with him. You say "what if he didn't". The fact is that he did cause the Holocaust and you can hate him for that. Even if Hitler changer 100% and became good, most people wouldnt forgive him.

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quote:Originally posted by Rastus

It's your thread, your allowed to be off topic [:I]

Wow, your said volumes in 1 paragraph, were you channelling your higher self.  Did your really read what your wrote?  You answered your own questions.

It's just not me to be all quiet and "goody goody". I will say whats on my mind even if I offend people.  There is discourse and there is offense.  Offending people is a form of attack if you do it callously.  About 1/3 of my repsonces on here/PM's/Email/IRC are deleated and re-written.  Sometimes it's a completely different thought train.  I could easily 'light you up' with scorn and ridicule, but what's the point?  What I want to do is get you well, off the AD's and onto your true path.  If you know your going to offend someone, that shows your thinking not thinking about 'the big picture'.

As I feel it's their own fault to get angry at me.  You make someone angry and it's their fault?  It takes two people to be angry, even if it's unintentional.  I do things to specifically not make people angry in some situations, because it's the prudent thing to do.

I should me no concern to them unless i am psychically doing somthing to harm someone. Although I have never got into a physical fight, I would be up for one If it was for a worthy cause or somthing meaning full to me.  So only physchically harming someone is provocation?  And is that intentional or unintentional?  Yes, you can cause someone a lot of aggrevation unintentionally, so does that justify them metaphysically grump-slapping you for it?  Physical altercations aren't any different than physchic, you just bleed differently.

You know the saying "Try to be like Jesus". Never do that. No one is perfect.  Be like Jesus, means to emulate.  To aspire to the higher ideals.  You have just said you reject Ascension and enlightenment because it's not possible.  Yes, no one is perfect, but you can try to be.  Besides, you assume Jesus was perfect, he wasn't.  He had doubts and fears just like other men.

No one never has unclear thoughts. You can't love everyone. Even if you hate their actions and not the person you still are having negativity towards that person.  I have been angry 3 times in the last 3 months.  That's pretty good, down from being angry 24/7/365.  You want to be enlightened?  Learn to love everyone and everything.  If your not then don't.  An enlightened person can see good in everyone, even some of the more controversial personalities on AstralPulse!  If you think depression is bad now, wait until gets really bad.

No one never has unclear thoughts. You can't love everyone. Even if you hate their actions and not the person you still are having negativity towards that person.  People strive for pure thoughts.  Being in the flesh it's difficult to do all the time, but it's part of the Ascension, to try.  You can love everyone.  Have you tried it?  Standing there in the face of someones anger, responding with love?  Actually it makes them madder sometimes, but that's temporary, it does affect them.  I can disaprove os someones actions and not hate them.  You keep using hate.  Do you understand where the emotion comes from?  Tell your ego to get lost, thre is no need to hate someone.

If we we all perfect than I would kill myself.  Your not so you don't have to consider that option.  And why would you want to?  Do you have to have the adversity of imperfect life to live?

It is good to be a really good and nice person but its bad to be perfect. End of that. You should never think that your better than everyone in the world
 Yes it's hard to be perfect.  Who said you had to be perfect?  Perfect by what standard?  Whose Idea of perfection?  What's wrong with just being a good person?  What's wrong with trying your honest best?  Am I better than everyone in the world?  Hardly.  Am I better than some people in the world?  No.  No one is 'better' than anyone else.  To be 'better' you have to have some standard rating system, and there isn't any on the other side of the Veil.  No soul is more or less than another.  So why would it be different in the flesh?

Angry yet?

Depression is a state of mind.  Specifically it's an imbalance in your energy body.  But getting healed is useless if the core image remains, it will simply re-establish itself.  To truly beat depression you have to change your core image.  Enlightenment goes a long way in doing that.

Yeah I really didn't look at what I wrote. Or what I am saying?

I just found this website about 2 months ago and thought that it would help me be a better person. I also want to go to the astral and see what its like, get better at TK and TP, just to really get better at some of these abilitites. I'm just really intriged by this kinda stuff. And openminded.

Again I don't know what I'm saying have the  time. I wrote this post less then 24 hours ago and dont remember have of it. That is a big problem for me, Memory. I am good with stuff like telephone numbers and dates, but when it comes to movies and Tv shows and books, I can only remember a key partt of what happens. Thats it. unless i read or watch the piece over and over again. I've seen one of my favorite movies, Independence Day, about 30 times and could not really tell you what happens. I would say that the earth got invaded by aliens and the aliens started to reak havoc on the earth. I can't go into detail. I cant remeber it well. Unless i watch or read the piece over again. If i constantly repeat myslef i generally remember better.

Why did I just type that statement? Well, because memory problems is a part of my every day life and happens when I do almost anything. Like I said, I dont remember what I said really in this post. But if i read it throughly, then some of it comes back too mind.

Is their any type of energy work or medication that can help with this??

Rastus, as for loving every one, that is impossible. Are you saying that you can forgive the Hi-jackers from 9/11 for what they did? Yeah they were doing what they belived but they still caused millions of casualites. You can't love them for that. And if you can't fully love someone then that just makes the statement "LOVE" oblivious.

As for asecnion, I fully 100% belive it. But their is no thing as 100% perfect. You can be a great person, be very enlightened and ascend, but you are not perfect. And never will be. You can try the best you can, but you can't. And you shouldnt. You can be very highly asceneded and be say 90% evil at heart. Its a different kind of ascension but it still is ascension

[Ground Ground Ground!!!]

quote:Originally posted by Rastus

You have a huge advantage:  You study metaphysics.  Depression is mostly your mind holding onto past 'wrongs'.  Add a smidgeon of self-induced problems, and some Ego out of control anxiety and Voila'.

Acknowledge you past, then let it go.  Don't forget it, or you may have to repeat the lessons.  Meditate and center. Ground Ground Ground!!!  Live in the NOW.  Healers can help, but without fundamental changes in yourself, you will relapse.  Change your diet (eat healthy, try a Wiccan Diet regime if your not keen on Vegan), Excercise, and Stop the Destructive Habits!!!

It is that simple if you finally decide to do it.  The AD's help you be lucid enough and in control of your mind to do this.  For me, Effexor helped, or was it the journey through hell with mirtazapine?  Either way it took a few weeks to be Well.  Throw in a week in the northern Michigan forests for meditation, that helped as much as anything, very calming up there.

I wish I could take a while off and just travel through forests and find out more about myself but I am still in high school and there is limited things I can do.

I'm not destructive psychially but am definitly mentally. But I know how to be respectfu.. I'm not gonna curse and to random stupid things much in say a nursing home or another peaceful atmosphere. But when with friends or frusterated I definitly can be really random and cause some havoic. Its mostly harmless and fun but we can definitly offend people.

It's just not me to be all quiet and "goody goody". I will say whats on my mind even if I offend people. As I feel it's their own fault to get angry at me. I should me no concern to them unless i am psychically doing somthing to harm someone. Although I have never got into a physical fight, I would be up for one If it was for a worthy cause or somthing meaning full to me. You know the saying "Try to be like Jesus". Never do that. No one is perfect. No one never has unclear thoughts. You can't love everyone. Even if you hate their actions and not the person you still are having negativity towards that person. If we we all perfect than I would kill myself. It is good to be a really good and nice person but its bad to be perfect. End of that. You should never think that your better than everyone in the world

Wow, that was totaly off topic

quote:Originally posted by Rastus

Mirtazapine very nearly did me in.  It is NOT an SSRI.  My eyes were so black with rage on that drug my wife didn't recognise me.  I had almost no metaphysical control, just raw emotions and power surges.

Time for another med change? 3 weeks is enough time to stabalise (4 days is standard for mirtazapine).  A 7-10 days to get off the zoloft, then week for the effects of mirtazapine to manifest.

Trick question:  What are you doing for your depression besides AD's?  You do realise AD's do nothing to cure you?  They just try and make you lucid.

Thats basically how I feel. Having tons of power surges I can't contol and no metapyshical control.

As for ADs, im just going by what my doctor and psycholigist told me. I'd assume that tehy wouldn't cure me, maybe just help me as a guide. As for the zoloft, it didnt do anything for me. It had no effect that i could notice what so ever.

Just out of curiosiy, if oijia boards can be so dangerous then why did the creator of the board make the game geared towards teens and kids?? It's just hard to belive that a kid's game could actually access a gateway to the spirt world. But why is this? I'm assuming how it's made or the intention of using it. JW because i haven't used an oijia board since i was like 9 and never thought it could posses such power

When did this start happening??? you could be really affected by 9/11 or someone you know may have gotten in a plane crash. Or maybe you are trying to face your fears.

quote:Originally posted by Logic

If you were aware that you were dreaming, while dreaming, you were lucid. Otherwise, you weren't. Motivation is the key to anything, don't wait for it to happen, you have to jump right into it.

Well if you remembered part of your dream, wouldnt you have to be lucid to do it??

Yeah, i would think if you tried to absorb lightni ng froma close distance then that probaly wouldnt be such a good Idea. I'd assume the energy would overwhelme your body unless you took the energy from the storm its' self and not the lightning directly.

quote:Originally posted by Empathic

yes is was and hopefully still is.  back near the beginning humans had the knowledge to pratically be gods we had many gifts including flight.  but know mostly everyone is like if i see it its real and nothing else so that wonderful knowledge has been lost and hopefully will be found soon.

I don't think it would be a good idea if all of this information was accepted in our society. It was probally be chaos and more people would be doing evil than good. Although I do hope that people who were ment to find it do find it.

quote:Originally posted by Wadit7x

The dark apprentice lives up to his name

Haha it's true. ............ Why would you say such a thing

quote:Originally posted by Seven

I can't comment on projecting into a storm because I can't project properly yet []

But it's true that you can get a lot of energy from being around a storm.  I can now feel the energy just before a storm comes (handy if I don't want to get wet! lol), then I make the most of the storm energy by drawing it in.  So far I've done it mainly from the safety of inside my flat/apartment which is not on ground level (sometimes outside, but safely), so I don't think it matters too much where you are as the energy is all around you, in the air, from the ground, etc.

In fact, as you start training your body to draw in energy, you should find that you don't need to really think about it, your body will start to draw the energy automatically, although you can draw more when you focus on it.  You only have to teach your body what to do, then it will start doing it naturally.

You say you have been doing energy work for a few months now - are you using NEW?  The technique to use if you are is Direct Sub-Naval Energy Raising - the one where you draw energy from your legs and arms together into the sub-naval (you'll probably find it comes in from every part of your body).

The main thing is to stay safe []  Your body will draw energy from the storm wherever you are []

Yeah I have been doing NEW for a few months. Now do you mean direct the energy from the storm to my navel area?? Could you some how harm yourself by doing that?

Yeah, i do draw energy from the earth all the time even without trying. But don't draw too much of the Earth's energy. We havre a limited supply

quote:Originally posted by The AlphaOmega

Yes, I know there is such a thing as a cult.  By Websters definition a cult is a following of a certain belief, so technically each religion is a cult.  When the word cult is used it's tendency is to mean evil.  I personally found no real evil in Mormonism, just confusion and a lack of skeptism.  And trust me, I've been around it as much as you.  I can understand your frustration with the church.  It's good that you are questioning their beliefs.  They find that hard to understand because most of them have never known questioning the church, they've been in it since birth, and they fear what they might find if they do question it.  You should remember however that the church is run by people, who are capable of getting things wrong.  Just because you hear someone in the church speak of going to hell if you're not Mormon doesn't mean that all mormons feel that way.  I've spoken with many that think quite the opposite.  Don't make the mistake of thinking everyone believs what one person says.  That goes for all religions.  I do remember the days when I was 16 and thought I knew it all and no one understood.  Be open minded to learning, because you have a lot to learn.

Yeah i'm more mad at the people who are at the head of the religon such as the presidents and bishiops. The ones setting the guidelines. It's just that some people take religon to the extreme and I think that is going a litte to far.

quote:Originally posted by Tayesin

Back to basics now.  Forget all the belief-system b/s and try something simple and effective.

Simply imagine White Light coming into you from above, you may feel a warming sensation at this point.  Let it fill you up and slowly build it up around you.. then just imagine the outer layer in your favourite colour.  The Shield is done.

You will quickly be able to establish this shield in a split second by your thought/intention, even when walking along the street or in conversation with others, etc.

The mirror method applies well to incoming thoughts from others.. you may feel a slight tensing in the brow chakra area (forehead), this tells you an energetic being is near and or wants to communicate.  If you do not wish to do so, imagine a mirror around your head, in your mind's eye see it reflecting the thoughts away.  That is all you need to do.

While some beings can still penetrate shields, it is a very rare thing for anyone when it does happen. Very few people will ever experience this.

Do not be afraid of it, if it happens it is because you are meant to experience it, and the being/neg is really helping you with your Fears and to grow stronger within yourself.  

Most belief-system attached people will disagree with this.

There are a couple of things to remember.....
1. Keep it Simple

2. You are in control of your energies and what you do with them.

3. Protection is necessary for the beginner, yet when you are Self-empowered you will not need to use it anymore.

4. Negs, etc, are only other beings who CHOOSE to use their portion of energy for darker purposes, they are not inherently evil because evil does not really exist outside of our own creations of belief-systems.

Love Always. []

Very insightful. Thanks for the advice. And I do also belive that the belief system stuff is bs.

Another thing Robert, thanks for the website links. Although the tri-pod website was a litt;e sketchy. the kid who owns the site is 13 and uses Dbz moves in his ki training. I think he overexagerated a bit but what do I know. Check out his "real" ki videos too

The noise was more of a high pitched screech. It was loud, but not lod enough so I would stop meditating. I was meditating earlier today and this time the pitch had more of a tone tto it. It was still loud but it was a bit more soothing and relaxing

quote:Originally posted by robertk4you

There is another similiar topic,somewhere in here,called levitation.In the past,they were many accounts of people flying in the air,like wizards,saints,or mediums.There are also few spiritual paths,to chose from,to gain psychic powers like levitation,teleportation,and much much more.Some people call it siddhi powers.Books explain,that once serpent fire is awaken at the base of our spine,and we join crown chakra,and unite with godness shiva,we may get some of this siddhis.This technique is kundalini yoga.There is also,i believe heart or throat chakra,which  is also related to levitation,once we meditate on these chakras.There are also mantras for levitation.Another example is Franz Bardon in his book called"Initiation into hermetics".He says,in order to levitate,we must decrease earth element,and increase air element.There are also many techniques of pranayama(breath of life).In this case,you have to choose the right pranayama mediation.There are also goetia spirits,once evoked,he may teach you,how to control the air around you and finally levitate.All above is just example,how many paths,there is.More you mediate and practise,better results.Visualization is the key.
Ps:I recommand this book ..... http://www.jzkpublishing.com/catalog/index.cfm/item/Fire2.4
and also check this page out:  http://home.xtra.co.nz/hosts/Wingmakers/Contents.html
And finally check this technique out: http://theteachingsofki.tripod.com/ki/id22.html  And remember,dont fly too high ![]

Thanks for the info Robert.

Yeah I am really intriged in this start and kundalini as well. But then again, i'm only 16 almost 17 and most people say it's too young to start kundalini. hey if it happens to me early then it was just ment to be. If not, I'll just be training for a while

quote:Originally posted by Moonburn33

yes- but i wouldn't discuss this in a public forum.  i know that you are just curious, but you don't want to give anyone the wrong idea.  and don't think that for one moment that this forum is not monitored.

Yes but wouldn't you think that some of these powerful psychics would already think about controlling powerful people???

And about the psychic secret service, I don't really think bush would have one because it would probaly be against his religous beliefs. Although I am sure some people and other psychics maybe protecting him without his consult. Why would someone protect Bush??? God this election sucks, hmmmmmm Bush or Kerry??? What do I choose??? I'd go with Nadar, yeah it's sad but their is no better choice