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Dear Jo Wolf,

I'm not sure how to put enough respect into this to give it the balanced response I really intend.  So I'll just say that this all comes with respect and leave it at that.

What does your understanding of Quantum Metaphysics imply in answer to your question about the lack of interest in your forum?

I would imagine that most people out on Astral Pulse are at some level gifted or sensitive.  It may not be something they can necessarily pull up into a consciousness they can manipulate with words, but there must needs be something resonant for there to be an attraction to this subject.  

My interesting in quantum mechanics and metaphysics is intense.  I admit that my mathematics are completely inadequate to crunch the numbers, so I can't really run with the big dogs on this subject.  I know that. I deal with it.  I just don't like staying on the porch.

The pure science is out of my reach but I can and do twiddle with the application and experience.  These twined subjects are a consistent discussion among my local circle of associates, some few of who DO crunch the numbers in their pure  form.  All this is to say that I'm very much interested in your discussion topic.

Also, while I am sensitive, I'm not a whimp.

When I clicked onto this topic of discussion, I was hit by a massive barrage of negativity.  I don't know how often you read this with new eyes, but this discussion reads like a bunch of nearsighted engineers whining about why not everyone thinks their particular version of a subspecialty is the most important anywhere.  

I adore engineers, but there's a reason not many people listen when they speak.  

Exclusion is the name of the game here.

Some newbie (like me) posted, and I believe was told something like healing wasn't applicable to Quantum Metaphysics.  I presume he went away and didn't come back.  

Umm. O . . . k . . . a. . .  y   That sounds a little to my ears like saying that sailing doesn't apply to water.  Technically, I get your point, but MY experience of the intersection of quantum mechanics and metaphysics tells me that the node has application with everything, everywhere.  Healing is often the place people get focused and motivated and open to learning.    

Basically, your personal message comes across as the old kids litany "My House My Rules" followed by the also familiar wail:  "Why won't anyone play with us?"

I totally agree that this subject is the key to a workable future -- that it's concept evolutionary and everyone needs to embrace it.  I'm not sure that you serve that goal by declaring an open forum and then scolding posters for talking about stuff not on your agenda.

And while I'm at it, if the arena is really that exclusive, how come I can read these posts in simple english and not as page upon page of mathematics . . .or links to charts?  

Sure . . . set the limits where you like and enforce them.  But in doing that, does it then make sense to complain that the world within your policed limts is somehow . . . limited?

It's terribly rude of me to jump in here with such harsh observations, but I think what you have is extremely important and I feel the legitimate desire for greater inclusion of this critical concept in the group mind.  

So with what meager skillfulness I have, I offer my outside perspective on your oft echoed question:  Why don't people take the time to understand?  

BOTH Quantum Mechanics AND Metaphysics offer clear implications as to the answer.  I suspect that your book "Understanding the Grand Design: Spiritual Reality's Hidden Logic" spells out the answer with greater clarity and it takes a lowly tech such as myself to redirect the theoricians.

Best Regards,

Chimerae  

quote:Originally posted by darkheaven

Chimerae, if u could take a look at my energetic field, last night i think i past to a new level...or something...anyway my heart turned fire... there was so much heat that i was all wet...then in my solar plexus. anyway if u could take a look to my energetic field...and a closer look at my first chackra, i think is damaged...
this morning i weak up with low blood pressure and pain, i felt verry good and seems like the pain is gone (about what i feel)

thank you

Love to oblige you, but mostly what I get is a jumble now.  That's not about you but about too many consciousnesses.  I usually avoid groups like this, but something pulled me in yesterday.

I'll give you what I do get, even though it's not the specific info you requested.  I'm sure there are people here who know a lot more about this than I do and can be a lot more helpful, but sometimes I just speak first because I'm out of pattern.  Plus, I won't use the right words, so somebody else may need to translate this into the traditons used with this group.

I have concern about your physical health.    Most people have a sort of "circuit breaker" that keeps the antics of their energy body from going too far from the tolerences of their physical body.  Some people go farther than others.  That's missing with you, at least right now.  

I have a feeling that it's been missing most of your life, but that as you have grow etherically, your material world stamina hasn't grown along with it.  There's also a sense that you at least have some consciousness involved there -- like perhaps you prefer the etheric world and aren't all that motivated to stay material (alive)  For some people that's okay, but I think you have work to do that you are really going to enjoy, and taking care of your PHYSICAL health will give you so much more on the spiritual side than you can even now imagine.

Oops and now I look up and see that you mentioned that you have some first chakra injury, so maybe that's what I'm picking up.

The good news is that with a strong etheric body, you can heal your physical body.  It's usually just a matter of getting the attention and INTENTION of you etheric body and getting the various parts of yourself in partnership.

My intention was to keep silent here on the dangers of astral travel and various other practices, but whenever I try to wrap this up and post something SCREAMS at me to say something specifically to YOU.  Everyone has their own traditons and in this forum, astral travel appears to be admired and encouraged.  I'm certainly not one to "stay home" myself.  I think it's important to think of astral travel like all travel.  It opens you up to certain risks.  If you were traveling by bus, airplane, and steamship to see the world, you would probably take certain precautions.  And most world travelers tend to get sick from time to time anyway.  

It sort of goes back to the lack of a "circuit breaker" with you.  Without any real reason why, I have a feeling that you are picking up "stuff" that's not healthy when you're out of body.  If you're not intentionally practicing astral travel, you're out of your body somehow with some practice you are using.  It's okay, just wake up to what's happening and do what you need to to to deal with it.  I think that means better prep before hand, better protection during, better cleansing after -- and lots of time for your body to catch up.

What I really get is that you are at a major choice point.  I think it's a foregone conclusion that you will continue to grow and evolve etherically -- probably at great speed -- but that at this point your growth will be something of an illusion because of a lack of body balance.  It looks to me most likely that you will decide to make your physical presence a priority -- but that the internal debate is likely to continue for a fairly long time -- at least 6 weeks, maybe a couple of years.  This is a tricky time for you.  Do what you can to avoid a major health problem (and, yes, you CAN avoid it.)  

You're not going to do it just because I say so -- and that's a GOOD thing.  You have a strong sense of self direction and somehow that will save you in places other people would be lost.  

When you decide to work on your physical strength as it affects your etheric, it will appear for a brief time that your etheric development has stopped or slowed, but that won't be the case.  It's down the road, but there's ANOTHER choice point there -- the more relaxed you are then about your etheric limits, the fewer limits you will have and the quicker your growth will take off.  

There's also something weird about the times right now.  The weather patterns out in the ether are way outside the norm.  That's affecting your level of risk and growth -- but it's working FOR you more than against you.  There's someone available to you (not me) that you actually know -- not a spirit guide but someone in a physical body that can tell you some important stuff about the current "etheric weather" that will make an enormous difference in your immediate experience.  It might be someone on this forum or it might be someone who lives near you.  I don't get much more on the specifics of who -- something about it is PRIVATE and should not be spelled out on an open forum like this.

I really think you have astonishing and delightful adventures ahead.

Safe journeys,

Chimerae

oops posted in the wrong place

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quote:Originally posted by Awakening

chimerae, thank you. that is axactly the kind of response i was looking for. thanks for taking the time to post etc, means a lot.
if you need some energy anytime, let me know.
take care.

I don't get anything about your head but a slight buzzing.  Tension around your heart chakra.  All of your energy points seem to be kicked up to a higher level than's really comfortable for you.  That's just learning curve stuff.  Ride it.  I find I'm focused on your feet and I experience pain.  This kind of feeling usually means that you need more grounding techniques and/or for whatever reason your pumping so much energy through your ground connections that you're sort of overheating your circuits.  My guess would be that something has happened that's kicked you up to a new level -- some kind of breakthrough.  You're on a new shore, and confused because the etheric terrain is unfamiliar even though your material life changes don't match.  That's crazy feeling until you learn that's just the way it is.  There's a crack and when you walk this path you walk with one foot on each side of it -- always a little off.  The path you're missing will form itself -- one stone or brick at a time each time you tune into yourself and set your foot on the road.  In other words, just LIVE and the structures you've been reborn to will ever so slightly rearrange your material world until a path forms.  Do you really need anything but the sense of direction you already have?  Boldly go.  Enjoy the journey.  To recap, what I get is a focus on your feet -- I think grounding -- not as an energy exercise but more as a conscious act of LIVING will put your feet and the path in the same neighborhood -- and easy your discomfort.