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Youre right I am confused and unsettled on what method to use because I feel there are so much contractions.

Some group say while laying still you need to move your attention away from feeling the physical body to make the transition happen
Some other group offers methods that make you still feel the physical system such as relaxing every inch of your body, feel the warmth, the comfort...
(if the point is to move awareness away from this physical reality, won't the latter be counterproductive, since feeling your physical body, such as hands, feet, breath, head, neck, or wherever on your body your attention jumps to, just make you stay in physical reality?)

both are contracting each other...

You've nailed it.
All of the information floating around out there is VERY contradictory.

You kind of have to sift through the information to find the good needle in the haystack, but that is EXTREMELY hard when you don't even know what the needle looks like, nor do you know what the haystack looks like.  Don't worry too much about it though, because we've ALL been there.  We ALL started somewhere on this journey. 

If both groups are correct... why to use any method at all? why not just lay still with being aware of whatever arises including feeling your physical body and that's it? how can this go wrong assuming you are not tired and there is no chance of falling asleep either?

Now you're starting to ask the right questions! 

You have to use some kind of "focus" (which is your method/exercise), otherwise just lying there doing nothing won't give you any results.  You still need to actively push your awareness away from this physical reality and you do this using your "focus".  The "method" you choose to use provides you with that focus.

Some examples of a "focus":

- Rope technique has you create an imaginary rope which you use to climb out of your body
- In a silent room, you can (or should be able to) hear a "sound" (I call the sound of no-sound), you can use that sound as you focus
- The mental rundown, you can choose to evoke a "scene" which you bring your entire awareness into that scene by engaging as many "senses" as you can into it, the creation and engagement is your focus

Does that make more sense now? 

Thanks! I forgot something else to ask which has been on my mind:

Usually one will first "phase" and then try an exit method ... If it fails the whole progress of getting out is ruined and need to try again next time (that's what I keep hearing from people)

But why is that? It's not like you move your physical body when performing an exit technique....

With that in mind, why do people not repeatedly do some exit method the whole time until you get out?

"Phasing" *IS* the exit. 

Like most people, you're confused as to what it is exactly you're trying to accomplish.
Try this article:  http://www.unlimitedboundaries.ca/2015/01/21/design-effective-astral-projection-technique/

All a "method" or "technique" does for you is provide a focus for you to use to move your awareness away from this physical reality.
ALL techniques and methods are the same in this manner.

Love is love... damn the rewards.  If you have to think about it, it's probably not love. 

I was just wondering because throughout history it's created so much unneeded war

The "religion" itself is relatively meaningless... what matters is how you apply their teachings to your life.

It's like if someone comes up to you, says that they're Christian... then does un-Christianly things.
Don't tell me you're religious... SHOW ME you're religious.

Although, there will come a point where you will stagnate spiritually along a religious path... mostly because religion is about following someone else's ideals/concepts.
To continue growing, you have to shed OTHER people's ideals and find your own.

Is this counterproductive as your focus is still on the physical body by doing all that?

Nope.  It doesn't matter what you focus on, just so long as you can focus on that one thing to the exclusion of everything else going on around you.

If you use the whole session of visualizing going from your room to some other places, visualizing feeling the material, hearing the sounds, putting all your senses in the visualization...

Won't this technique only give you lucid dreams? and not actually the experience of consicously going out of your body, in your room where you will see your physical body laying on bed, and from there you can go wherever you want?

Eventually you will appear in the place you visualized you walking and not feeling the seperation of your physical body next to your body?

"Lucid Dreams" don't exist.  There's no objective experience as a "lucid dream".
What this WILL do is bring you into the non-physical with a varying level of awareness.

You're too stuck on labels. 

Never mind, I don't have the time to look into it fully. To busy with College right now. Though I might reply during the summer.

Whenever you're ready.  Take your time. 

Oh yeah what about loves low entropy system. It sounds cold and calculated in a way to me.

EDIT: Someone brought this up not too long ago.

I don't understand what you're asking.

So your saying sacrifice means absolutely nothing spiritually?

Not when you're doing it specifically for a gain for yourself. 

Of course I won't marry her if we don't create love within the relationship. That is a no brainer. But what place does sacrifice play in the grand scheme spiritually then?

Intent.

What's the Intent behind WHY you do what you do?

Intent is what makes the world go around. 

Your still looking at it as what you can gain out of it
It's not a sacrifice if your looking at it as what benefits you will receive
If you like her enough to be with her you will take on the kids and treat them as your own
You will find the unconditional love you get from them will be pretty rewarding in itself (my first long time girlfriend had a child already)

But I honestly think if you have to weigh up what's going to be good for you then your looking to feed your ego not your spirituality 

^^ This 

If you love her, "what you gain from the situation" won't even factor into the equation.

Love "just is". 

What Blue said... rule out physical issues first.  THEN, when they can't explain it... move on to "other".

All I'm saying is it is much harder here in this physical reality to be one and make the changes like in the spiritual reality. It more easier to be more excepting in the spiritual reality then here, but experiencing the spiritual side can change that perspective drastically, but til then it's hard.

That's just it... it's not much harder.  It's just not as "direct" or "obvious", but that doesn't equate to "difficulty".  Difficulty is in how you approach it or your perspective regarding it.
Why is that?  Because you have this huge divide between "here" and "there", while I see them as two sides of the same coin... well, even that's wrong, they're two sides of a one sided coin. 

Xanth, i want to hear your opinion about them interacting with our daily life like giving hints and so on like numbers or stuff like that

I take the same kind of position on their interaction with us as Tom Campbell does.
The "hints" we get throughout our lives is "the system" trying to guide and help us grow.
Take "spirit guides" for example... they're not these "entities" who just hang around waiting for you to talk to them or waiting for you to make a mistake or require a nudge... they're simply an "interface" you have with the system.  That's probably a great way to describe them... they're an "interface". 

If that is the case that we are one, then if we change our self, then we change the whole right? But that doesn't seem the case here, maybe in the astral/spiritual we are one but here we are individuals, who have no effect on each other when we change ourselves. Again this is just my perspective on the matter

This physical reality is as much an "astral/spiritual" reality as any which you actively project or dream to.  There's, literally, no difference between "here" and "there". 

You know the saying that you can't change the world, you can only change yourself.
You might not understand the concept now, but you *WILL* realize it to be true on day and apply it to your life.

I have NO DOUBT of that what-so-ever. 

Maybe i haven't realised "The one" perspective yet or your opinion but i think there is still difference i mean yes it's one Consciousness, but u know at same time i know what u say but like if this being already existed before i imagined it so i am not the reason of his existence if u get what i mean : P

No, you haven't realized it.  Hell, even people who say they've realize it don't ACTUALLY realize it.  

http://www.unlimitedboundaries.ca/2013/09/23/everything-is-consciousness-analyzing-lucid-dreaming-and-astral-projection-from-the-perspective-of-consciousness/

Think larger than that.  Your "bit" of illusory individual consciousness didn't create "that other entity"... it arose out of the whole of consciousness.  The same consciousness that YOU rose out of.  We're all one small perspective of the whole.
Just like the wave arises OUT OF the ocean, you (and everything you experience) arises OUT OF consciousness.  The wave isn't separate from the ocean.  

To me, that's why it's silly to make all these separations... because in the end, they're nothing but illusion anyway, so why focus so intently on them?

My perspective is that those things are as separate and individual from us as you are from me.

When you take consciousness as a whole (look at it from the perspective of "we are one"), then you realize that there is no separation... there is no individualism, it's all part of the illusion.
This ALSO means that those "entities" which we think are "separate" and "outside" us... aren't.  They're just another aspect of consciousness as a whole interacting with itself in an effort to grow.

I agree on left brained one : P i had a feeling in his other posts about astral projection that his opinions are just a quick look , i mean he has not experienced or interacted with it

And that's pretty much where I draw the line on people trying to teach others when they don't have their own experiences/knowledge to draw from.
Being book-smart doesn't take you very far.  Parroting experiences and knowledge that you've gained from other people doesn't help YOU in the slightest. 

http://m.thestar.com/#/article/life/2016/03/07/what-its-like-to-hallucinate-tiny-people-in-the-night.html

I'm curious... does anyone here experience something similar to this?

Greetings, just came up to this website i want to hear your opinions about this topic

http://skepdic.com/lawofattraction.html <---

I think the author of that piece is a bit too Left-Brained (logical) to understand the concept.
I can tell you that through (anecdotal) personal experience that the law of attraction is quite applicable in our lives.

So I meet a women with 3 kids though she is divorced. She seems like a nice person with good qualities and I am wondering if marrying her would help he in the long run, like in my next reincarnation. Would I gain benefits in taking on such a hard task in my next life? Or would it not really matter?

EDIT: So in essence would marrying a women like this who doesn't have much money be better than marrying an independent women and having kids with her spiritually? Crazy question right. I just sometimes have a hard time believing it even matters helping others in need in the grand scheme of things.

ROFL  If you're looking for the self-benefits of something like this... you're probably not making a "Love-based" choice.
You don't quite understand the concept of Love, do you? 

My channel is mostly just music I enjoy and meditate to... I have been thinking of diving into the video log thing though to teach projection.  Haven't started yet though.

This topic has been moved to Welcome to Astral Chat!.

http://www.astralpulse.com/forums/index.php?topic=46474.0

Judging by the number of views, I can say I am not the only one who is interested in this topic.

Nah, there are just A LOT of people who want to just flick a switch and project easily... sorry guys, such a thing doesn't exist. 

[demarcate the OBE as a unique type of experience in which one's perception is physically comparable (rather than 'astral projection' or 'soul traveling' which are imaginary states often conflated with traditional OBEs).]

I'm not convinced there's anything good that can come out of this...

This research will help paint a "map", if you like, of the OBE. At the very least it will provide new insights into taxonomies of altered states and demarcate the OBE as a unique type of experience in which one's perception is physically comparable (rather than 'astral projection' or 'soul traveling' which are imaginary states often conflated with traditional OBEs). The hope is that this preliminary research will lay the ground-work for researchers to have a much clearer understanding of how perception in traditional OBEs functions. With that knowledge in mind, a protocal for testing verifiable perception will be developed and published in a scientific journal.

He's ALREADY got a huge bias as to what he's going to find before this study even begins.
While it's intriguing, I haven't found a study which hasn't shot itself in the foot before it begins because of biases of the researchers getting in the way.

As for your question xanth I just sit back and relax and let the meditation take me wherever I takes me either that or chakra meditation, I don't know any other meditations but those 2 if you have any suggestion about meditation I'll gladly take it, anything to help me achieve what I want to do thanks

No suggestions right now for you.  What you've said seems fine for now.  Go with the flow. 

Meaningless metaphors.  What exactly do you think you're going to do with those "weapons"?  It's not like they're real things.  Go and slice things... see how useless that endevour is. 

Do they trigger lucid dreams or astral projections?

No.  Binaural Beats do nothing FOR you.  You can't just put on your head phones and be whisked away to magical lands...
YOU still have to do the majority of the lifting.  If I'm using the weight lifting metaphor, using Binaural Beats is kind of like doing bench press with a spotter... the spotter is never supposed to lift the weight for you, that would be useless for you.  Instead, YOU do 98% of the lifting and the spotter helps with that last little bit. 

That is what Binaural Beats do for you.  You still have to do the majority of the "action" yourself.  Meaning you still have to figure out what "action" you're doing.

I'll expand a bit on what EV spoke about.

Last night I started off in a lucid dream, looked around the room, and I sensed that it was just a dream.

In this "lucid dream", how would you rate "how aware" you were in comparison to your current waking awareness?

See, I don't use terms like "dream", "lucid dream" or "astral projection" much anymore... why?  Because they're inadequate to describe whatever experience I've had.  In my eyes, they don't even exist.

Read this article I wrote a while back for more information on that: http://www.unlimitedboundaries.ca/2012/07/22/labeling-experiences-of-the-non-physical/

When you drop the labels you'll quickly figure out what you are much better at "projecting" than you think you are... but it requires a slight shift in your perspective, and after years of your current perspective, that shift can be slightly difficult to make.

So, a few options I can think of to get out of the dream and to somewhere more significant

Read and understand what I've posted above and you'll realize that you're not "in a dream"... ever.  Dreams don't exist.  You're ALWAYS projecting, you just project with varying levels of awareness.

- Fly up and leave the planet, with the theory that the dream is an actual "place" in the Earth system in the sense that it's a fictional place I'm creating in the same plane as others, and I can simply leave it by travelling up
- Abort the dream by dismissing the environment altogether and do a sort of moving or backing off (as I did last night) repeatedly until I find myself some other place acceptable
- Asking for someone to assist me out of there
- Wake up and try again, because I'm not going to get anywhere once I'm in a dream

These things only change your non-physical environment.  They don't change anything about you or your experience.