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If you are just beginning and doing all the starting steps then it will take you awhile. After you have developed your energy body a bit and able to be aware of entire sections then you do not need to work on each little part. If you can just think about your hands and feet and feel energy in all of them then you no longer need to work each part (stimulate the joints, sides etc) but work with them as a whole. Like fredhedd said, it gets easier and can be done in just a few seconds.

By Soul Projection, do you mean projecting into the higher planes, such as the Soul planes you describe in your other post? Like you Astral Project on the Astral Plane, Mental Project into the Mental Plane, etc.

quote:My opinion is: the astral plane is a state of consciousness that allows complete/instant access to all of the brains considerable utilities, basically, a journey through the mind. Obviously (i hate using that word but..) its not a physical place you can go to. I think its impossible to meet people there because any entities or sentient beings you did meet woudl be a product of your own mind.

The Astral is a state of mind. You must align your consciousness with it in order to experience it. But you are always on the astral, it is part of you and you it. No it is not a physical place and you cannot go there physically. But it does exist for it is part of all of us.
You do have a great creative power on the astral, really on all planes but it can be more direct on the astral. You can create other beings you meet. But I think it is possible to meet others as well. I think that we are all connected. On a level we are all one. So if we are all one on some level, then we can connect. I have read many accounts of people meeting on the astral, so it seems possible. I myself have had an experience or two with someone helping me. Though it was brief I think that it was more than just my imagination, it could have been another part of me but more than my imagination.

quote: If it is a non-physical place that is not individual (different for everybody) then is it possible for an event to shake the whole astral plane? could some powerful being destroy it or entities within it?

I don't know. From experience I would say it is not possible to effect every single thing within the universe at once in such a way, but who knows. We do not have such skill at our current evolution and any being that would be that skilled and evolved would not want to destroy or probably even effect everything.

quote:If it isnt either of those, perhaps it is a non-physical place that is individually apearing for everyone, yet the content is the same. So everyone is in the same non-physical place, it justs apears different...

Is this not how it is on the physical? You can have a crowd of people all witness the same event, yet you will get a different account from every single person. We all see things different, some more than others. Likewise on the astral, each of us may experience the same thing and enviroment, but we may all perceive it differently. One person may be being attacked by a "neg" while another is being helped by a friendly spirit, yet it can be the same event. Perception is everything.


Tayesin, that is an interesting idea.

No one can gice you confidence, it is something you have to work out on your own. I suggest doing the NEW energy exercises and meditating before you try having OBEs. You need to be calm and passive inorder to have any function on the astral, otherwise your experiences will be unpleasant and short lived. Learn to be calm and still your mind and emotions. Try being more passive. Everyone is nervous about new experiences, just try to relax.

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Look at the N.E.W Energy Ways and Training To See Auras files. Everything you want to know is there. NEW will teach you to develop your energy body and your third eye as well as your other chakras.

There is also a chatroom you can check out and see if anyone is in it.

http://www.astralpulse.com/chat/chat.htm

quote:Originally posted by vikram88

As far as healers are concerned, yes they do perform energy manipulation of another persons body. But as far as I think they cannot get full control over their patients body making them very difficult even to move(Just like their bodies are frozen). Such technique will need a lot and I mean a lot of practice.

I am just saying that since it is possible to manipulate another's energy body for healing, then one should be able to manipulate it to neutralize an attack temporarily. I would think that you are right in that it would take a lot of practice, but how much I cannot say since I have never tried to manipulate another's energy. Both, if possible, would require a lot of practice and development.

Have you started any work on your energy body? If not read the NEW file and start developing your energy body and awareness. Once you have done that then maybe you can look for something more complicated, but I do not know anyone that can levitate.

Hello greatoutdoors! Welcome to the forum, as well as all the others that are new here.

So what are your questions, greatoutdoors? I have not seen any of your posts where you have asked any. Sorry.

Maybe we all should start trying to use the chatroom some more. I have been in there a few times but no one else was there.

I think kibeginnersnightmare is new to the internet and messageboard thing. Maybe everyone should be a little more helpful and cut him some slack.

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1. What is a neg?

I have never met a neg, but from all the information I have gathered I think they are just manifestations of personal problems and things you need to work through. But like jilola said, people are divided on this issue. I think reguardless of what one thinks, they seem to only be around and bother people when there is a problem that the person needs to resolve, such as some kind of fear.


2. Is the astral plane accepted by scientists as real?

I would say that the general scientific community does not.


3. Can anyone with the proper training project, or are you born with the ability?

Any one can project. It is just like anything, some are better at it than others. It comes natural to some while others have to work really hard to be able to do it. I believe anyone can project.


4. Is are there any life threating risks in APing?

No

Your emotions and thoughts can effect how you perceive your enviroment in the astral. If you are afraid then your surrounds will most likely be scary to you. So yes you are correct in that your friend's fear is the cause of his scary experience. You cannot be hurt while you are on the astral, so what is there to fear? One needs to remain calm and passive when on the astral, reguardless of what may happen.

When you first have an OBE it is rather overwhelming. Reguardless of where you think it takes place, I do not think you can say that they are not real. Once experienced you see that they are real on some level. They are not like dreams, but rather the opposite. In dreams you are not very lucid, but usually when you have an OBE your consciousness is higher than it is normally on the physical. Atleast that is how it usually is for me.

There is a technique that might work best for you if you have good concentration and able to have good control over your surface mind's thoughts. It is rather simple, yet does require control. First just remember that no matter what technique you use the main goal of all is to put your body to sleep while you keep your mind awake. With this method you need to get comfortable. I do not advise the position you usually fall asleep in, but you can lay down just use a different position. Now relax your body much like you are going to take a nap. Get comfortable. Once your body is relaxed let your mind drift off slowly. The goal here is to trick yourself into thinking you are going to take a nap. You must be aware of your mind and thoughts at all times. You let your mind drift and when you feel it is about to go to sleep you need to snap it back awake, but only your mind and not your body. Keep doing this a few times, letting your mind get close to sleep and just before it falls over into it snap it back awake. After a few times you may find yourself snapping yourself out of your body on one of the attempts. I have had success with this technique many times, but it does require you to know how you fall asleep. In order to get use to this you should try staying conscious as long as you can at night before you fall asleep. Try to keep your mind awake and just pay attention to how it feels falling asleep.

What does Kundalini feel like?

I was doing energy work the other day and started feeling this hot sensation move up my back. It was rather hot, but not painful at all. It felt weird. It seemed to make me feel ... full in my entire torso area that it was moving up, like it started low and as it moved up my back it felt kind of like it was filling in my body as it moved. It only went about half way up my back and stopped. I did not try to draw it up, I just let it do what it wanted to do. I stopped the energy work soon after that.

I don't know what it was, but I have not experienced that before.

The reason presented why humans cannot go too high: as you move farther up the planes things become more united, at the top plane everything is one with no separation. Either you cannot go to the top few planes because if you actually did you would not be able to return because your experience would be so profound and you would be so developed that you have no need or you just cannot be physically human and be that developed to understand those planes.

You cannot convince someone of something they do not want to believe, no matter how much proof you have. So we will have to continue doing it one person at a time. Face it, some people just are not ready for such knowledge yet.

quote:Originally posted by spellcast91

isnt the astral body versatile enough to go into all the planes?

I would think the the astral body could only exist on the astral plane. Just like our physical body can only exist on the physical plane. You would have to get into your other bodies that exist on the other planes in order to explore them.

According to some, Hindu I think, there are 7 planes and humans can access 4 of them, or so I read somewhere. Though really we already exist on all planes, it is a matter of raising your consciousness enough to get to a certain plane, plus having enough control to explore in that plane. That is one theory anyway. Though I am not sure how one could get that there are 7 planes if human's can only access 4 of them.

Hello Twisted and welcome to the forum.

Something you need to understand about the astral is that your emotions and thoughts have a big influence in what you perceive there. You found these experiences scary, so the situation appeared scary. As for this being, it may not have been at all, only something in your fear you created yourself to explain these things you have felt. When one is in a state to leave their body you can feel all kinds of strong energy pulses and sensations. I have always seen it as just energy until I came here and read about people saying that it felt like someone was touching/pulling/pushing on them. Next time I went to project I paid attention to the sensations and when looking at it like that it can feel like someone is touching you, pushing, or pulling on you. This is one possibility, and what I think is most likely.

Another, maybe there is someone there trying to help you out on to the astral. It is unlikely that this being is trying to hurt you. It is only your perception that it is because you do not know what is going on. If this being should help you out, it would be opening a new and wonderful world to you, which can in no way truly be bad.

I suggest that next time you feel any such sensation you try to remain calm and passive and just let things happen. If someone/thing is there try to talk to them. Try being open and reasonable, and remain calm. Easier said than done I know, but it is important to try.

Or better yet, take control of the situation and try projecting on your own.

Good Luck!

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What is BWGEN?

Try working on keeping your mind clear and concentration. Work on improving these. Try to keep your mind from drifting off so you do not go to sleep.

Eyes closed or open does not matter too much I don't think. Most close their eyes, but go with what you feel works best for you.

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I was not implying that your posts were bad. Just saying that numbers don't fool people around. Go for if you want it though.

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It is my view that negs are not anything to be feared, but I am sure they can be fearful when met face to face. From the information I have gathered I believe that negs are merely the manifestation of our own personal problems and things we need to work through. They maybe be easier to deal with indirectly on the physical but meeting them on the astral can be a good experience as well and may even bring to light things you did not know. Just because an experience may seem unpleasant and scary, it does not mean it is not good or helpful. Work though anything that you feel needs to be resolved and you should be fine. Just do not be afraid to face your fears on whatever plane you may meet them. That is how we grow, work through and facing our fears.

If it makes you feel any better I always feel more positive when I am on the astral. It is just getting use to the different feeling of being out of your physical body. Take it slow until you feel more comfortable with the feelings.

And something I forgot to mention before. I do not suggest having straight sessions for 2+ hours. I would suggest you take a break if nothing has happened after 45 minutes to an hour. Usually if you have not done it by then you are not going to. After that time, get up, move around, maybe do some light exercises, get a drink, just do something else for maybe 10 minutes and then you can try again if you want to. Sometimes the breaks can really help.

If you are using the drifting off to sleep/jerk your mind awake method the only thing you need to do is relax, try to let your body go to sleep as usual, keep your mind awake and every now and then let it drift trying to monitor it so when you feel you are about to go to sleep you bring your mind awake. Any other way you need to try to shift your awareness away from your physical body, try to feel for your energy body, but you should not try to feel your physical once you have entered a good trance state. And once you get out DO NOT feel for your physical body unless you want to return to it.

As for negs, well what they are can be debated, but if you wish to avoid them there are some things you can do. Realize that on the astral likes attract and emotions can play a big part of what you experience. With this in mind try to keep your thoughts and emotions from turning negative. Try to remain calm and passive reguardless of what you may experience and things should go fine. If you become scared then your emotions can effect how you see things and the situation can turn scary and spiral out of control. No matter what you might see or experience try not to just to conclusions, just be calm and passive. Nothing can hurt you on the astral unless you allow it to, mostly by giving into fear. But all that will happen is you will wake up back in your body. I may not be the person to talk to you about negs because I have never met one. But I say you should not worry about it, for you may never either.