I'd make you live a moral and just life.

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Show posts MenuQuote from: ZenJedi on January 24, 2016, 04:33:24Yup! Fire away.
I have a lot of the same questions. I realize that it's been awhile since people have posted to this. Are there still people here to engage in conversation?
Quote from: substituteapple on January 23, 2016, 18:13:03That would be entirely up to however you decide to interpret it. It's not my place to tell you that.
Wow, I'd never thought about it like that before, I think that might be it! I've read about auric vision being able to determine spiritual and physical ailments/blockages, in your experience, does the denser matter denote something negative, or something positive?
Quote from: Bluebird on January 22, 2016, 15:56:55Ahhhhhhhh, I think I understand what you mean now.
And your experience is just as valid as mine. But we are looking at things differently. You can see a progression and development, I can not.
What is your ultimate outcome? What are you changing into? When you say "hopefully it's different in a positive sense." What does "positive" even mean? Are you moving forward? To where?
You seem to think you are becoming something. I'm saying you are already everything you want to become. But in order to experience anything, you have to forget your everything. So I guess your changing, is really remembering.
And if you finally remember who you really are, like Szaxx said...
So a movement forward would actually be a movement towards the annihilation of the individual you. Experience ends. Duality ends.
QuoteKind of a bummer...and that's why we all (the individual you's) continue to play the game of "getting" somewhere. But the "getting" is all we do because there's nowhere to go.It's not really a bummer... it is simply what it is. The way I see it, when you physically die here... as I said before, the physical you and everything physical about you ceases to exist. Whatever happens to what remains after all that physicalness is stripped away... well then, I guess that's the real big question. It's not really one I worry about though.
Quote from: ZenJedi on January 21, 2016, 04:08:51My reply should be fairly obvious at this point... they're nothing but labels and beliefs/expectations/desires/interpretations.
What are your thoughts about heaven and hell and angels and demons? Does anyone have experiences with these?
Quote from: Tongo on January 19, 2016, 09:11:33Why is that convenient?
Not to be the doubting Thomas and all but it sounds a little convenient that experienced projectors suddenly don't care about things like winning lottery numbers and such when glimpsing into the future.
Quote from: Bluebird on January 16, 2016, 23:35:18Your overthinking of this is going to drive you insane.
Yea, I knew I was probably going to mis-communicate my ideas.
I think you misunderstood me.
The "now" I am talking about is the "now" in the future. So whatever you become, you will be that in the future "now". Growing spiritually, becoming better or worse, is only relative to what you are in the present moment. And the present moment is always. This is the state of conflict the mind is always in. Wanting to be something it is not.
That's all I was trying to say. I am feeling this conflict more and more. I'm becoming more aware of it. I'm accepting what the mind really is and spending a lot less energy trying to change it.
Quote from: PlasmaAstralProjection on January 15, 2016, 20:41:05Wow, I don't even know where to begin with this...
I am here to become God-like.I am here to learn how to learn, and how to overcome to have power of the elements.
In the end though this forum isn't the only place I draw inspiration from, as psychedelics are a also a big part of learning from reality.
Quote from: personalreality on January 14, 2016, 23:29:04LE GASP!
It's cool Ricochet, I never dug Tom Campbell either.
Quote from: LightBeam on January 14, 2016, 01:36:34But that's the thing... consciously, no, I seriously doubt you would have any guilt over it. I know for a FACT I wouldn't.
I have no guilt that I will be cheating. If someone has certain abilities, why not use them. I for example will be so excited to be able to help so many needy people with a big chunk of the money. I feel no guilt winning that way what so ever.
Quote from: Bluebird on January 12, 2016, 21:10:58That's a cop-out and I get the feeling you know it.
I will only ever be WHAT I AM now.
Quote from: LightBeam on January 12, 2016, 12:57:58There's a distinct possibility in that.
I absolutely agree with that. These type of things are where Tom misses the target. His own guilt that he would "cheat" creates the obstacles he experiences. That does not mean someone else wouldn't succeed.
Quote from: Kanes Messenger on January 11, 2016, 23:26:46I think if you stop being overly analytical about the experiences, you'll find MUCH MORE similarities than differences.
Thanks for the reply,
Yeah through lucid dreaming I have learned that life is also a dream that operates under many of the same principles even though it might not seem like it. I've only had a couple close AP encounters that were extremely intense and short, yet I've had many long lucid dreams but they weren't the same experience really. I found similarities but I noticed many teachers like robert bruce who teaches both AP and LD claims they are definitely not the same 'realm' of experience even though it's a projection.
QuoteEDIT: Found an article about it by robert bruce http://blog.astraldynamics.com/2009/11/30/the-differences-between-real-time-and-astral-obe-and-lucid-dreaming/Robert Bruce is STUCK on this concept that he's a spirit IN a body and that his spirit is comprised of many different bodies. He's very much of the classical projection mindset.
Really cool integrates what you were saying about both just being projections, he finally says the AP is more of a physical/astral body double, whereas lucid dreaming is more of a mental projection, however the lucid dream can have astral experiences and the asrtal realm is also overlapped with the mental so can ironically go both ways.