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I am sorry but this description of the astral plane does not appeal to me.  I don't think the universe is structured in that way.  On earth, there are consciousnesses in varying degrees of evolution, and our purpose for being here and our experiences are different from one another.  When we leave the physical dimension, again we have different experiences based on our evolutionary levels.  Some are on ego-karmic level and others have progressed to group-karmic.  Yet, those with traumatic death and life experience (addictions, attachment etc) are likely to become sick souls or "psychotic post-mortems" who may or may not eventually get help to recover and reincarnate.  Our evolution is in our own hands, and not structured as levels 1, 2, 3, 4 etc.  Note: I am not saying this is the way it is, but sharing my understanding of it from my various readings, experiences and discussions with others.  So this is not up for an arguement 

I am glad you are discussing this chap.  He really confuses me.  On the one hand, he dismisses psychics as fraudsters; and on the other hand he uses his own psychic powers on TV.  (Well, I call planting ideas in other people's minds parapsychic.)  What's up with that?

confused venus

very likely that she's your soulmate and that you've done this before in another dimension - that's what I think.  Your parapsychic ability is definitely enhanced - it might be uncomfortable but it is a positive thing.  Personally I have felt someone elses' pain while practicing psychometry and I thought it was a bit freaky and was even scared that I picked up her illness.  But as soon as I cleared my chakras and grounded myself, it disappeared.  Maybe you could try that??

Venus

I had the same experience. I thought it was very strange too, as I was not frightened at all.  Guess it's "normal"!  Keep on trying!

-1 doesn't sound good.  I think that generally such words should not be used to indicate number of post or how long you've been a member for as they have completely different meaning in a sensitive/personal context.  As you said no one knows my karma except for myself.

Thanks Vitruvian!  I hope you're right cause I don't want anyone judging my Karma and evolutionary levels!

Cheers
Venus

hi Alan

All my readings so far indicate that we are all met by helpers when passing on to the next dimension.  Some call them spirit guides and others guardian angels.  Nevertheless they are highly evolved souls who have the ability to look like what we expect them to.  i.e. if a you're a Christian, you might expect to be met by Jesus and to lessen your shock and discomfort your helper would assume the look of Jesus Christ.  If you expect an angel with a halo and wings, again that is what you will see.  Likewise, if you're a muslim and expect Prophet Mohammed, that is what you will see.  This is not cheating but meant to help us because losing our bodies makes us disorientated and our helpers are there to comfort us in whatever way possible. 

I was first introduced to this idea by Dr Michael Newton who came to London to give a talk on his book 'Journey of Souls'.  He was previously a sceptic hypnotherapist until one of his patients flipped a few more years than he was aiming for, and went to a previous life.  Since then he got fascinated by the afterlife, particularly, our lives between lives, (sometimes called the intermission period which is the time we prepare for rebirth).  He is now one of the world's most famous past life regressionists.  The book is absolutely amazing - full of case studies which I would highly recommend to you, if you are interested.

Just my 2 cents

Venus

hiya

I don't know what is causing you to sweat.  I've never heard that one before so I can't possibly comment.  However, the reason your upper body is not 'floating' could be because of blocked chakras.  So you will need to send energy and open your chakras in your upper body.  That includes solar plexis, heart, throat, brow (also known as front or third eye) and crown.  Of course you need to open all chakras so if you haven't done this before, you also need to work on your sacral, base, palms and sole chakras as well. 

As to techniques, there are lots of threads on this forum that discuss good techniques.  Some of the most popular ones are, the rope method, energising the front chakra, waking up early in the morning, affirmations (that you will project)... sorry the list is too long to go through here but I hope this will get you started.

Best wishes
Venus

[pesco]

hi all, very interesting debate here!  Especially one I have a keen interest in.

I stopped all meat except fish on 01/01/01.  (a bit spooky that one)

No one forced or influenced me.  My body and mind were just ready at that time and although it was hard to stop the cravings of 'finger-lickin-good fried chicken fillets' particularly as I walked past KFC, I have never regretted becoming a pesco-vegetarian.  Since then I tried to stop fish but had to go back to it after 6 months.  I am not going to force myself so I eat fish once in a while.  I get all I need from soya, veggies, fruits and supplements every day. 

not eating two eyed two or four legged animals has done wonders to my conscience, my health and helped me enormously in my spiritual growth.  Apparently meat is mostly made up of blood and some fibre.  The blood is what makes the food taste good, not the fibre.  It is also the blood that contains toxis substances such as uric acid which is actually waste material and comes out of the body as urine.  Now I don't know about you but I ain't 'finger-lickin' animal urine. 

As a person seeking spirituality, I thought it was important to clear my body, to maintain a healthy body, in order to ultimately become a better filter for information that comes from the higher realms.  And I think it did the job cause I can see the results now.  I'm in very good health - no digestive problems, and I can't remember the last time I had a cold. 

The drawback?  It has greatly affected my social life - I don't go to barbeque parties and can't visit my family who eat meat (it's the raw meat in the fridge and seeing them chopping it that really bothers me).  I find the sight and smell of dead animals extremely repulsive, and certainly can't pass by butcher shops, can't even watch TV cooking channels if they're using meat.  Maybe it's all the fear the animals feel when being slaughtered?  Someone also told me that on an energetic level, the fear, which is the last emotion they have before they die, is consumed by humans along with the flesh...

Makes me want to be vegan!  I'm working on it. 

Thank you everyone!  I'm grateful for all your replies.

Thank you to everyone who replied with encouraging words.  Alan, I have read some of your posts and I think that you really are a blessing to us all on this forum.  Thank you for genuinely trying to help especially those of us who have just started the journey.

best wishes
venus

Yippeeeeee!  That's the best news I've had today.  I will do what you suggested next time that happens, hopefully soon!

Thanks Alan.

a very happy venus

Thanks very much for your reply Vagus!

Hi all

Very strange things are happening to me these days and I put it all down to the energy exercises I'm doing.

Last night I went to bed and did some exercises.  The deeper I fell asleep the more intense my vibrations got.  I was half asleep when I felt my bed shaking.  I continued to consciously send energy through my body and vibrate at the same time that I was sleeping, how strange is that?  Although I did not project it was a pretty interesting experience.  Just had to share it with you guys!

happy astralling everyone!

Venus

Hey Vibra

Yes I just finished all 4 modules of consciousness development course at International Academy of Consciousness in London England.  They have several sites in the US too, so you might want to check them out.  Visit www.iacworld.org

I would highly recommend them as they are genuinely determined to progress in this field - involve as many people as possible, and do serious research on the astral plane.  The founder, Dr Waldo Viera has written lots of books as well - all on the website.  Personally, this course has changed me forever and am ever grateful for the teachers' goodwill.  I wish everyone could do the courses!

best wishes
Venus

can you go anywhere in the astral plane when you get out of your body?

theres some video games i want to visit, like in gta 4 i would want to go to liberty city, and other games.

i had some lucid dreams about a video game called call of duty 4, that made me wonder if i could astral project in them.

OBE is a tool to evolve, i.e. increase self awareness, control your energy, and help others to evolve as well.  How is projecting into a video game going to help you achieve this? 

It seems to me that this Nibiru thing has become something of a belief system.
Anyway, weren't we supposed to see it in 2003?  Last time I checked it's 2008 and still no Nibiru.

lol

I'm just wondering ... I have two astral stars and 1 karma next to my name and don't know what they mean.

thanks

Venus

I was in a class yesterday and trying out the rope method. 

Everytime I was lifting out of my body, I felt my bones crackling, muscles twitching and my head wobbling.  So obviously I came back to my body, every single time!  My teacher said that it could be my astral body rather than physical, but my mind thinks it's my physical body so I come back to it.  She said it's a natural mechanism to come back to your body when you think of it.

So how can I stop thinking about my body, even when it feels like it's twitching and wobbling.

Thanks for your thoughts.

Venus

Wow, that's something I didn't think of!  Yes I was awake at the time, though I started in a half asleep state.  Really good insight, thanks CFtraveler. 

Thank you Greytraveller.  To be honest I was getting a little discouraged, but I'm glad you think that I'm progressing.  I will keep on trying.  My first two OBEs were through semi lucid dreams, and I had some help there!  What I've never had is a conscious take off.  I'm finding it quite hard and I think my helpers want me to do it by myself this time...

Thanks again for your encouraging words.

In daily life you should be aware of the present moment, NOT dreamy. You should be in control of your awareness. The more focus and intent you develop, the better focus you'll have for an OBE.

Really useful advice Stookie.  Thanks very much!!

Yeah I know.  But the physical body is weak and perishable.  Plus we are so conditioned in believing that we are our bodies that it is doubly hard to separate the consciousness from the body.  I am now in a struggle to be in control of my energy so I can leave my body when I want to.  I feel like a baby learning to walk all over again. 

Thanks for the encouraging words though.

Love
Venus

No it subsided when I got back into my body.  This is the second time it's happened.  The first time I was able to lift my head and upper body but my heart beat so fast I decided to go back in.  Not sure what it means, but I don't want to give up.   

He didn't tell of his origins. So I followed up after the visit to our group of the humanised version, and what I found when looking for the one I sat with was a massive armada of 'ships' heading towards our solar system. they were absolutely huge, so big that they held within them decks of the large trianlge ships that are sometimes reported here; the ones that measure about 1 to 2 miles across... which makes their carriers really, really big. This envoy was part of the crew of one of those carriers.

Holy sh*t!