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Does it become worse when try to shield (using Psycich self defence ?). Any feelings in your legs (fussiness ,electricity , or pinpricking energy?) and back? Is it much more severe when you go to bed/are meditating?.

If so try to keep your mind ocupied elsewhere than on your feelings.
Take a shower , did it help some? Try other activities that consumes your attencion .

If yes to most of thise questions it could seem like the prelude stages for kundalini. Cause it seems very similar to my experiences and i to thought i was under attack.(lol sometimes i still wonder).

But anyway it is only to give you another option to consider. And I wont tell you to discard your attack teory. It just struck me as so similar what i experienced and tried to stop it with (thought i didnt see any balls of light).

You say it seems to be the house but try and be gone for a weekend and see if your symptoms is going away or is following you.
Also check if your family noticed any diffrences when you where gone.

I would think if you did not get better but your family did you may be under attack (or you may be growing emphatic and sending confused signals).guess much checking/experimentation to pinpoint any problem is in order.Try sending family away and you stay and going both away.

If you did get better and your family did not , then I guess its very likely your house and you could always move if you cant find any ghostbusters.

But if you did not get better and your family stays the same.
I would say it isnt very likely to be either the house or an attack (thought i am by no means an expert) .And this would be the most likely scenario for a kundalini , since you would persive things much more chaotic than it realy is. (Note I am assuming here that your family realy is the way they act. Also note that my teory falls to pieces if other family members start seeing thise lights.)

Anyway best of luck to ya.

Hmm my eyesight was realy poor and i thought i needed better glasses but after doing a few exercises (from the free ebook mentioned earlier ). My sight recovered somewhat . Ive desided that im not gonna use glasses unless i need to see things far away.

Perhaps it realy can work ,time will tell. And ill post if i start seeing even better.

Tried it , seemed to get my kundalini(i think ) to get swinging again (not neccerly a good thing) . It did nothing for my arm(mousesickness) wich i went there for. But it did have the nice effect of making my tinnitus (hearing noise) much better (not cured).

Interesting , praying to get a better prayer. Perhaps ill try sometime.

Well i dont know how much of a healer i am ,since i cant seem to heal myself . But i tried a consentration prayer(and i dont ussually post me trying ,since im not claiming to possess any great gifts).

Hmm Religion/belief system in gameform . It realy must be THE WAY to create a cult in this millenia .Ingenius!(and realy does sound like lot of fun , thought costs to much funds=P )

I to sometimes cant find things , but i think that i somehow creates a filter that remove the input of the object into my sences . But that doesnt explain moving objects wich has happend (albeit seldom).

Like 1 day things wouldnt stay on shelfes and cdstacks tumbled for no good reason. Last time was only a few days ago. When my amethyst moved from my bed to a pile of clothes and hid under it =P. "shrugs".

Sorry I dont know about the brainwave generator (or TK). But i wouldnt bee rude and just read it and leave []

Good thinking ill try a few opposite goals set.

Root: open (31%)
Sacral: open (13%)
Navel: open (31%)
Heart: open (19%)
Throat: under-active (0%)
Third Eye: open (31%)
Crown: open (31%)

I just dont talk very much =P

Hehe if your so sure shes the source to your trubles , why dont you take a down to earth aproach to fix the problem?[]

Ask for your stuff back!!

did the clocktest 8 times , and 2 of them made 1 hour past , score 25 and 29 expected per 15 round . More notebly was the fact i got none with negativ score .

So for you who thinks you influence it , does it always do as you think or is it kinda a strugling motion (with a few backsteps)?

And what score do you are you satified with ,to say you influenced it?

I dont know what is good or not in this test (to be called ,under influence of me ). But i got some points in the moving pendulum test.
Tried the others a time to , but it always went to the opposite side.

So what you all think , fluke or ?(and why does it say misses i got it the way i tried?)

ok out of the salt bath they go , and imagine white light in them instead. Dang why do so many sites say salt bath?

ohh well , im trying to use them to enhance intuition , guess i gotta read on the programming thingy , also it would be nice if they could heal my body to =P

Where do i find info on programming ? and how do you recharge the crystals ? and do they work well without programming?

im clearing half my crystals now with 1 crystal in a glass of water with 1/6 full of sundried seasalt(stirred with a bed of seasalt on the bottom) .
I also put the intention to clear them with this action ,on the crystals (well to the best of my abilitys off course).

Anyone know how long they need to stay to be cleared?
If no one knows i guess ill let them stay til tommorrow.

I was a firm sceptic , thought after being bit/poked by kundalini after a lucidreaming/OB meditation (wich failed ,im still not sure ob exists ,but im willing to hazzard a bet that it does) .i seriusly was in need for answers .

According to my docter im delusional ,gave me antipsycothica wich realy made border psycothic, and my psycologist have had me tested for epelepsi wich came back negativ (so shes sending me to a BIGGER epelepsi test).

Well i suddenly came over a kundalini site and i had about 80% of the syptoms , so my quest now is to deconstruct my earlier belif and replace it with what i know (wich is VEERY little) and get this kundalini under control (any tips folks?).

The only things i realy belive in now is :

there is most likely a god (since i dont think you could experience kundalini in a nongodish universe, unless its a kontagion contracted trough meditation and triggers spirituality in people).

It is possible to see magnetism and feel it (experienced it)
it is possible to know what is beyond your senses. (ive had a few times a uncanny ability to guess/know what opponent has/is doing in games) . But its bloody hard to separete it from wishfull thinking!

So yes i guess i suddenly came around given it took more than a day .but a year a go i call what im saying ,crazy talk. But still i long for better proof (it would be nice to prove to my closest that i aint a total nutcase should i ever reveal what i belive in) .


I just know to well how hard it would be to belive without experiencing , some wouldnt belive even if I smacked physical evidence up . Some because they belive in things that wouldnt hold water or be the only right belief! But i guess they cant be called true sceptics cause my definition is that it is someone that dont belive but is willing to try something to prove it wrong!

ehh sorry , i meant if it is Kundulani ,meditation may make it worse (atleast if you dont know how to handle it).

Hmm A ritual that gains money and gets results every time. Sounds like work[].

Try a kundulani search on google and see if the sypmtoms there resemble what your feeling. If it is meditation may make it worse.(very much worse).

Im not sure i totally belive in this kundulani thing but its was scary how much was spot on with my symtoms . Wich also loosly could be described as moving energy that hurt.

Ive yet to find something that helps against it ,just many things that doesnt!

I guess Drugs can help you medititate ,it can also do the opposite .
I know from experience that it doesnt work the same on all . heck it can even work diffrently each time you use it (on me atleast , same pipe same batch etc).

As for the interesting discussion , my views are much closer to beavis than Reasons .(thought (some?)good points where made by both)

However the last post by Reasons where way off from my reality, espessially about the sences.

"True, but, since the properties of an atom that we know thusfar are how we define and catagorize an atom, what is wrong with calling the thing that fulfills all of these definitions and catagorizations an atom?"

Yes ,your right it matters not now for a "normal" human . However it could matter greatly for anyone who would want to know about the universe itself.  


"I highly doubt that in our lifetime we will be given new senses that will improve how we perceive our world.so wouldn't it make sense to do with tbe best that we have now?"

I think thats VERY hasty to say , perhaps beavis got the same as you but think about all the others that doesnt have the metaphysicals sences you got(their mentioned in original).

Where you born with those ? I myself would think/hope its possible to get those within my lifetime. As for normal sences , they can be amplified(more accurate) , im saving to get my eyes opperated .
I read somewhere that it should be possible to get new sences in the future (like seeing ultra violet) . And it was likely to be in our lifetime also.(might be true ,might not)  

Uhhh ok it will get way long and as interesting as i find thise discussions i dont have time to particiate with more.
Keep it up , Beavis got a good lead in my book =P

Hmm i just remembered i read somewhere that poltergeist activity ussually occur with tempramental teenagers(sosial dysfunctional?)  in the house .

Perhaps its a link here i dont think its was any evil spirits here but rather perhaps those teenagers spontaniusly use tk when feelings is a mess .

Im not a teenager but i was a pretty mess of feelings after i ate the pill .

But it contradicts every bit of TK info on thise board (that im aware off) since it basicly says be relaxed ,composed and consentrate hard . And i werent any of those things.

Anyone that CAN use tk (you know who you are =P ) ,how does feelings influence your abilitys ? What are you most often feeling when using tk?

To me it sound like a "pain dream" (labeled myself) , i had some of them before i began interest me in obe and one after . I cannot see any links to obe myself but the symtoms are the same.

Exruciating pain (not in the back but either in the neck or my whole body). Waking up in high allert status only to find pains gone and some fear for sleeping right away (hay happence once can happen twise =P )

However I think you can relax ,its a VERY seldom happening ( Once a year tops!)
However its for me , could be your diffrent thought i hope not.
LOL but it shows you just how false the no pain in dream claims is(i think you actually must saw something off to match it) !

I am currently seeing a Psycologist and telling about obes . ¨
She asked if i saw things  , said no (havent managed obe).
She asked if i heard things others did not and was very interested when i said yes . Though it dabbed off when it was clear that it was tinnitus (hearing noises).

Besides that she didnt care much about obes as i currently sees her for the emotinal problems i got from my experience to induce them (normal meditation and visualization).

Today thought i did a abilitys test , did good on evrything cept spacial reasoning and logic thinking , those where way better than whatever normal she uses . Guess its because of my episode with obe attempts that ended with me getting no sleep ,very much energy ,and something best described as "getting photoshop and 3d studio programs crabbed in your head". I could imagine/construct any object i wanted and rotate/change them in my head off course in realtime =).

it died down since after i got more "normalised" (my standard=) ).
But i still can very easy rotate "simplistic cube constructs" and count up blocks its made of.

Myself find it not extraordinary but my psycologist seems easy to please in the test department. Hehe i thought she was about to say "your pretty smart for being so twisted" after we finnished .
Well thats my experience with the psycologist.

The normal doctor however almost fell out of the chair when i told him what problems i had , and prescribed antipsycothics pills to make the bad stuff go away while i waited for more "proffecional" help.

Those pills MADE me psycothic ! + something extra . Well i may not have gotten fully psycothic . but was very confused and emotinal (EVERYTHING on tv triggered a strong feeling ) + things where falling down around me .

Well thats my story for meeting  the "proffecionals" its not so bad thought i still advise beeing the judge for whats good or bad for you .

Hey me to  ,Exact same thing . If anyone knows what it plz respond.

hmm fancy controlling Electrons?

Get some rubber soles on you and don as much nylon/syntetic clothes as possibly directly on the skin (so no underwear). be a little moist on your sweather along the EVIL arm . Now break out a big balloon . no dont rub your hair (it works but will make a giveaway look) , if your clothes is of the right stuff rubb the balloon heavily on them (front ,back and along the EVIL arm)

Now your clothes all down to your arm (and perhaps little longer will have a nice charge but were not in goal yet. use your telly dunno if it works good with fancy new ones but you will hear static crackle when your harnessing electrons onto the balloon. and gently stroke your EVIL Hand with it , do it 2 -3 times and your set . Your hand should have a highvoltage and the sweather Should prevent the charge from dissepating up your arm .

Find the victim , touch it gently . And brace yourself if a spark forms you will feel it good to (but atleast you expect it ) , Dont touch anything with the EVIL hand before victim espessially not something metal or the joke may be on you.  

Hehe so if you dont get magic working atleast you have a practical aproach . I dont know squat about any kinesises but it seems to be much about visuallising , so perhaps imagining a river or path where you want electrisity to go ,will be easier than focusing on the electrons themself (electrons will always take the lowest resistance path). I only dont see where you can get the charge from , the body is a poor source (thought nerves uses electrisity it not much to get excited over ).