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quote:See to it that no one takes you captive through hollow and deceptive philosophy, which depends on human tradition and the basic principles of this world rather than on Christ.
9For in Christ all the fullness of the Deity lives in bodily form, 10and you have been given fullness in Christ, who is the head over every power and authority. 11In him you were also circumcised, in the putting off of the sinful nature,[1] not with a circumcision done by the hands of men but with the circumcision done by Christ, 12having been buried with him in baptism and raised with him through your faith in the power of God, who raised him from the dead.

I suppose my next question is this?

How does AP ing save your soul?

[Obtain your salvation from the cross and then worry about walking in "dreamland".]

It is True that the Bible has AP experiences. But the reasons for these experiences coincide with the Truth that is found in Christ. If you look further especially in the case of Paul you will see that the purpose of these visions was to validate the Truth of the Gospel and of the power of God. Here on the board most AP without any knowledge of the power of what they are getting into or that the Devil has a say in things as well. If you do not belong to Christ you belong to Satan. When you AP you are in danger of attack from evil spirits. I invite you to read the following passage as it partains to the supremacy of Christ.

quote:15He is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn over all creation. 16For by him all things were created: things in heaven and on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or powers or rulers or authorities; all things were created by him and for him. 17He is before all things, and in him all things hold together. 18And he is the head of the body, the church; he is the beginning and the firstborn from among the dead, so that in everything he might have the supremacy. 19For God was pleased to have all his fullness dwell in him, 20and through him to reconcile to himself all things, whether things on earth or things in heaven, by making peace through his blood, shed on the cross.
21Once you were alienated from God and were enemies in your minds because of[6] your evil behavior. 22But now he has reconciled you by Christ's physical body through death to present you holy in his sight, without blemish and free from accusation-- 23if you continue in your faith, established and firm, not moved from the hope held out in the gospel. This is the gospel that you heard and that has been proclaimed to every creature under heaven, and of which I, Paul, have become a servant.

Obtain your salvation from the cross and then worry about walking in "dreamland".

quote:Are you saying you don't believe in life after death? There is just too much evidence and paranormal occurrences, and I for one believe that the spirit world exists and it is possible to travel there.

The wages of sin is death. When you die the only hope for life after death rests in Jesus Christ and Him alone. This topic here deals with talking to the dead and that is just what Satan wants you to think. That you live on without the NEED of Jesus and the cross. Do you think you have the power to bring yourself back to life. Are you responsible for the functions of your body, your breath, your heartbeat. Do you actually think you do any of that? It is only by the power of God that these things happen and not yourself.

The use of psychadelic mushrooms is a temporary fix to a humanly unfixable problem.

When you open your mind up like that and have not the power of the Holy Spirit you are putting yourself at the mercy of demons. If you are a shroomer than you know all about this. Next time you hit the old blue stained substance just remember that the devil hunts you like a lion and will feast on your open mind. Try a 7 gram hit and tell me about your New Age paradigms then.

All other religons are mans attempt to contact God.

Christianity is the the ONLY religon which is God's call to man. It is the only authentic religon when it comes to the Way, Truth, and the Light.

You are all wasting your time with this New Age garbage and mystical illusions. All of these religons put man in the place of God and are all false. You will find the Truth only in the Bible.

New Age philosophy is Satanism in disguise. Ask any Satanist what they beleive and it is just about the same as what you guys convey on this board. The only difference is that the Satanist knows who is orchestrating there religon.

Do what thou wilt. Relativism. Universalism. All the same root which is the Devil.

You are not God and this reality is not God. God is self suffiecient and does not need you or your twisted ideas to exist. REPENT.

Repent and accept Jesus Christ as your God. It is the only Way to avoid a lot of agony. Trust me.

You guys don't get it do you. When you die you are dead. Dust. Ashes. A rotting corpse. Do not try and contact the dead unless you like to talk to demons and Satan.

You can CHOOSE to tinkle on the True Word of God all you want but the EFFECT of God's unchangeable Word's being warped will not be the case. Ever.

Jesus is the Word incarnate and you can CHOOSE to reject Him but He is the Alpha and Omega. The beginning and the end. The EFFECT of your choosing not to be part of Him makes little difference on the unalterable character of God and His Word.

quote:If nothing else Al, you make for some great entertainment. Do you have any idea the true origins of your beliefs? The egyptians, sumerians, and aryans of the indus all shared similar beliefs due to a common root. These egyptian beliefs were then recycled by Moses (Blavatsky states that the hebrew language itself is nothing but egyptian writing phallicized) and turned into the main Hebrew religion after the exile. It is that as well as the mixing of Hebrew with chaldean beliefs which forms the basis of the Judaism that Jesus was born into, and the religion founded in his name is a combination of that, his teachings, and the popular greek/pagan beliefs of the time. Jump on the logic train and you'll realize that your beliefs are really just those of the ancient Hindus recycled, corrupted, and distorted by exotericism.

You fail to realize that SATAN was present at the time when God discussed the creation of man.

If you were SATAN and were to fool the masses you would want a COUNTERFEIT way to discredit the authenticity of the Gospel and Christ's message. You would create many, many paths that all seem to be the same below the surface. Come on your smarter than that are you not? Do you think the Devil would be that obvious?

The sumerian, indian, etc cultures were DEMONICALLY INFLUENCED CULTURES USED BY THE DEVIL IN ORDER TO DECEIVE THE ELECT. THEY WERE USED TO PROMOTE FALSE IDEAS AND LOOK THE "SAME" AS CHRISTIANITY. THE ONLY DIFFERENCE BEING THAT JESUS CHRIST EMPOWERS ONLY ONE CHURCH AND PEOPLE AND THAT IS THE CHOSEN OF GOD.

You can beleive what you want but just remember that snakes are crafty and intelligent but in the end they will bite you!!!

Oh. Was that Jesus, Allah, Buddha, Zeus, Brahma, Ra, or Enki again? I forgot.[/quo

The True God is the One that led a perfect life, performed miracles, and most importantly died for YOUR sins and ressurected from the dead.

His name is Jesus Christ and He prepares a place for those who will beleive on Him even though it can be very hard when the world tells you NO.

Your Rama, Ra, Buddha etc are all dead in there graves or are demons in disguise. NONE HAVE CONQUERED DEATH SAVE ONE.

quote:Let us use reason. Man has been given free will, so he can do as he wishes. There was never a complete book in the beginning. The Bible we have today is a collection of writings by men inspired by God, it did not just fall out of the sky from the divine. These writings were done by many people over the course of centuries. Some were written many years after the fact. These writings have passed through many political hands in the course of the centuries as they have been brought together. Now using reason, how many would trust a politician? How many think that politicians do not lie and cheat to secure their power?

God is not a deceiver and would never allow the serpents to tinkle on His book like you imply.

THE BIBLE IS, WAS, AND ALWAYS WILL BE THE TRUTH. PERIOD.

Than what are you if that is ok to ask.

I am sure you adhere to pantheistic, mystical, meditative ideologies???

THE BIBLE IS FACT AND ALL OTHER BOOKS AND ANY OTHER GOSPEL IS THE CREATION OF MAN AND DEMONS.

quote:Ye shall be known by your fruits. The effective christian evangelist, the one who truly GETS Jesus, has a loving glow that can be felt even across the Internet. He/she is kind, does the right thing, and gives loving advice in a loving way. People think, "I want to be peaceful and loving and happy and right with God, how did he/she get that way?" And then they ask questions, and the evangelist responds with his/her story. This is how it's done.

When you see someone walking aound with a snake attached to there ankle do you lovingly try to talk it off of them or do you smash it like the Devil it is.

Remembering me at the time of death close down the doors to the senses and place the mind in the heart, then while absorbed in meditation focus all energy upwards towards the head, repeating in this stae the Divine name the sylable OM you will go forth from the body and attain the supreme goal....

Taken from the Bhagavad Gita this stance if I remembered it correctly directly corresponds to Satan's first lie..... Ye shall shurely not die. All you have to do is direct your energy currents corectly when you die and you will pass on to heaven. Death is an illusion as your real "self" is really what is in control.

The Upanishads and the Gita are DEMON WORSHIP. I pity the soul that beleives he can save Himself from death without the help of Christ.

YOU CANNOT PAY BACK FOR YOUR SINS, ONLY GOD CAN.

PANTHEISTIC, MYSTICAL RELIGONS AND IDEOLOGIES ARE THE TOOLS OF SATAN TO BLIND YOU FROM THE SAVING GRACE OF JESUS CHRIST.

THERE IS ONLY ONE WAY, THE NARROW PATH AND FEW THERE BE THAT FIND IT.

God does not outlaw AP. That is the whole purpose of free choice. But you will REAP consequences for communing with demons and fallen spirits. You can fight the Bible all you want but on your death bed you BETTER MAKE SURE YOU ARE SQUARED AWAY WITH CHRIST!!

You New Agers have no standard by which to base your morality. You have a book written by Robert Bruce that is a MAN MADE creation.

The Bible is the Word of God and is verified by the many prophecies and eye witness accounts of the apostles.

JESUS CHRIST ROSE FROM THE DEAD. NO NEW AGE IDEOLOGY OR MYSTIC RELIGON EVEN CLAIMS THIS. THEY ARE ALL DEAD IN THERE GRAVES. CHRIST STILL LIVES AND WANTS YOU TO LIVE TOO!!! ALL YOU HAVE TO DO IS EXCEPT GOD'S PLAN RATHER THAN MAN'S.

You are NOT the Devil but you do have a fallen nature. Don't let Satan fool you into thinking that you do not deserve eternal life. It is God's gift and He paid a high price for it.

Read the Gospel and you will see the Truth clover. The Truth is the Truth is the Truth is the Truth. The Jews rejected Him and crucified Him because of their pride and ignorance.

I beleive the testimony of the apostles and beleive Jesus is Lord from the ressurection. Your Budha, Confucious, Muhamed are all dead in there graves.

Read the Word of God and decide for yourself what is right. God is God and you are just a creation. Don't play the fool and reject God's warnings. You don't have to listen to an organized source. You can read the Bible and find out what the Truth is for yourself.

[When you die you are dead. Period. Any NDE or astral projection that says otherwise is the fruit of Lucifer. In order to inherit eternal life you must be aligned with Jesus Christ. He is the only One with the power to conquer death.]

quote: Christianity and the Bible, I believe, were tainted, from the time the Romans made Christianity the state religion and also through medieval times as kings dictated the translation of books and scrolls.

Are there any Christians on this board with any faith whatsoever? Not to be judgemental but if there is a perfect God like Christianity supports than whatever is in the Bible is TRUE AND INCORUPTABLE. The message that needs to be conveyed to man is there even if the curruptable Holy Roman Empire was the tool that translated the Bible into its current form.

As far as Astral Projection is concerned I beleive that you must look at the fruits of what is being done. If you are being led to beleive that you will live forever without the blood of Chrsit than it is a FALSE SPIRIT that is influencing you. But if you are projecting around and have the Holy Spirit guiding you than there is less of a problem there. Leaving your body without supernatural interference like what happens to those in the Bible is like trying to walk on water without the help of God. YOU ARE NOT THE CAUSE OF ANY MIRACLE AND LEAVING YOUR BODY IS JUST THAT.

When you die you are dead. Period. Any NDE or astral projection that says otherwise is the fruit of Lucifer. In order to inherit eternal life you must be aligned with Jesus Christ. He is the only One with the power to conquer death.

I think I must narrow the scope of this topic down a little.....

AP is fine by me under one condition. That condition being that you accpet Jesus the Christ as your personal messiah first before you attepmt to project.

Whether you are aware of it or not most of the thoughts that come to you from projecting are as a result of spiritual influeces that are usually bad ones.

These false spirits make you beleive that when you die you are not really gong to be dead!!!! That is just what they want you to think. They do not want you to inherit eternal life from the Son.

You can fight it all you want but I know that EACH AND EVERY ONE OF YOU ON THIS BOARD FEELS THE TRUTH THAT IS CHRIST.

Let me know of any spirit that can dare stand up face to face to the One True God that created them all.

Don't lean on your own understanding but trust in the infinite knowledge of the Lord.

God does what He does how he does it because He is God!!!!

Love Him for giving you life and beleive on the Son He has sent.

If you beleive you are projecting around talking to deceased relatives you are being deceived by Satan and his minions. The Bible is very clear on the fact that those who attempt to talk to the dead and travel around the spirit world are really just being led astray by demons.

Beleive in Jesus!!!!

Heaven is the place where all the beleivers of the True Son of God Jesus Chrsit reside.

It is a place free from sin because only those who serve the True God are allowed in.

It is a place where the ressurected in Christ go and reside in spiritual, indestructible bodies.

The Bible and its message is Absolute Truth which is backed up by prophecy. In the Bible there are numerous descriptions as to the nature of heaven but first you MUST be called by the Father to the cross.

All the unbeleivers on this board will never know the real power of God until God DECIDES to call you. You will never see the heavenly city of Light unless you let go of your man made false doctrines and accept Absolute Truth.

Oh yes and heaven has many angels and the Son of Man on the Throne.

Hope to see all you there.

You guys anre missing the point. All the astral projection and relativistic thinking in the world is not going to free your soul from this prison. Astral projection is a way to allow demonic influences in to deceive you into not beleiving the objective nature of the Bible.

Jesus Christ is the Son of God and only when you put Him before yourself are you free from the law.

If you plan on opening your mind like that I would be sure that I was freed from the law first because God scorns those who commune with false spirits.

Don't listen to the serpents on this board. Jesus Christ is Lord and all will confess one way or the other to His reign over all creation.

Absolute Truth means that something is true and always is true no matter what. A perfect God manufactured the Bible and no matter what "evidence" the serpents spit at you it remains that God's Word is infallible and True in all regards.

All this astral projection crap is just a way to open your mind to demonic influences. Pray hard that Jesus will save you from the sins of the world and I GURANTEE you that you will thank me later.

All it takes is one genuine moment to absolutely let go of yourself to Christ and beleive in His physical ressurection. That is all it takes for eternal life.

Don;t be fooled by the serpent and his crafty followers.

1. Jesus Christ is God.
2. The Father, Son, and Holy Ghost are in COMPLETE control of all creation.
3. The book entitled the Holy Bible is the Word of God and is infallible and True to the most extreme sense of the word.

Period.